Battlefield 3

[snappahead]

Yeah age isn't much of a factor really. ive played with horrible players young and old. Suckage shows no favorites.

I did hear someone say that the beeping is from spot overuse. If you're spamming the back button, the game let's you know that it's burnt and needs a cool down. I like that idea. So many times in BC2 I'd try to spot and couldn't and I never knew why. I knew there was a cool down, but there was no indicator for it.

 

[jye4ever]

Yeah age isn't much of a factor really. ive played with horrible players young and old. Suckage shows no favorites.

I did hear someone say that the beeping is from spot overuse. If you're spamming the back button, the game let's you know that it's burnt and needs a cool down. I like that idea. So many times in BC2 I'd try to spot and couldn't and I never knew why. I knew there was a cool down, but there was no indicator for it.

Good catch with the spot.

LOL at your suckage line.

 

[darthviper107]

That's the purpose of a beta

I am amazed at how foreign of a concept this is.

This is Beta in name only, you don't do a Beta a month before release

 

[Uncanny Web-Slinger]

i did hear someone say that the beeping is from spot overuse. If you're spamming the back button, the game let's you know that it's burnt and needs a cool down. I like that idea. So many times in BC2 I'd try to spot and couldn't and I never knew why. I knew there was a cool down, but there was no indicator for it.

Aww man i love spotting it's great teamwork, plus they already minimised spotting by removing it as 3D.

Unless your in a line of sight to the enemy you wont see someones elses spot, if they moved out of sight a few seconds pass and their spot icon is gone, so no more seeing spots through objects, over hills etc... And the triangle icon seems smaller to me.

And now this annoying beep to limit your spotting (it may have been in BC2 but spot over-use never seemed there to me)

Oh well i'll get used to it, but it seems like it wasnt removed but minimised for the COD crowd.

 

[snappahead]

This is Beta in name only, you don't do a Beta a month before release

The beta may be new to us, but I can't almost guarantee it's not new.

 

[snappahead]

Aww man i love spotting it's great teamwork, plus they already minimised spotting by removing it as 3D.

Unless your in a line of sight to the enemy you wont see someones elses spot, if they moved out of sight a few seconds pass and their spot icon is gone, so no more seeing spots through objects, over hills etc... And the triangle icon seems smaller to me.

And now this annoying beep to limit your spotting (it may have been in BC2 but spot over-use never seemed there to me)

Oh well i'll get used to it, but it seems like it wasnt removed but minimised for the COD crowd.

Yeah, I'm the same. Love spamming that spot button. I do remember tha it was somewhat controversial in BC2 a lot of people hated it and thought it was OP. They were probably right, but I still liked it. This will make it easier to sneak around I guess. That will be good and bad.

 

[jye4ever]

The beta may be new to us, but I can't almost guarantee it's not new.

Correct,

they are fixing bugs 24/7 and performing stress tests.

This helps pinpoint their server budget for one.

 

[mfoga]

This is Beta in name only, you don't do a Beta a month before release

That depends on why you release the beta.

Guess you never worked in software engineering.

 

[Macularius]

Creating a class isn't the Battlefield way, its about teamwork you contribute those specific class attricutes to the team.

If it was completely destructible the everything would fall and it'd all be in the open

This is just one map, there is gonna be more destructibility on other maps.

This is what battlefield IS, maybe its just not the game for you.

I still think I should be able to change my medic/sniper "choices" to be able to have various attachments and choose the gun I want, if I can do that then battlefield is truely inferior.

Why would thy advertise it that way then this is absolutely no different from bc2, no mass-scale destruction like I've been hearing.

I certainly hope so, because there really isn't much going on on this one!

If that's "just how it is", then it makes sense why cod sells 10 million copies launch month an bf doesn't.

 

[Uncanny Web-Slinger]

I still think I should be able to change my medic/sniper "choices" to be able to have various attachments and choose the gun I want, if I can do that then battlefield is truely inferior.

Why would thy advertise it that way then this is absolutely no different from bc2, no mass-scale destruction like I've been hearing.

I certainly hope so, because there really isn't much going on on this one!

If that's "just how it is", then it makes sense why cod sells 10 million copies launch month an bf doesn't.

Well you wouldnt have Snipers handing out health bags on the front line, a Sniper is meant to be far away, thus the recon skills are for supporting your team from that distance.

I get what your saying about the guns situation, but as you unlock things you get many of the same attachments and things that the other guns have, they just unlock in a different order.

When i said "it is how it is" i meant that is what one expects from a battlefield game, it is what it should be for that game, if you come to BF expecting a call of duty setup, you may aswell stick with COD, BF is a different kind of shooter in terms of strategy and gameplay.

COD sells 10 million at launch cos people want the new guns and new maps, and are conditioned to buy into the next one, the formula doesnt change because the publishers dont want to rock the boat, the reason for the increased interest in BF is that BF looks different and plays different, and people who are COD bound year after year are growing bored, many of them will baulk at having to adjust to a new style of play and will trade it in and go back to thier familiar COD, others will find BF refreshing and have a new favourite. Only time will tell.

I say to everyone, the Beta has its problems, many i've listed here and on Twitter to BF, but its and early build of the game, an AWESOME GAME!!!! that need polishing, don't judge the game by the Beta alone, just as you wouldn't judge COD by one map, one mode and select features

 

[darthviper107]

That depends on why you release the beta.

Guess you never worked in software engineering.

Actually, yeah, I do. I've worked in games and currently work at an interactive software development company.

If this is an older build that makes it even more useless as a beta. This is just a demo guys

 

[mfoga]

I still think I should be able to change my medic/sniper "choices" to be able to have various attachments and choose the gun I want, if I can do that then battlefield is truely inferior.

Why would thy advertise it that way then this is absolutely no different from bc2, no mass-scale destruction like I've been hearing.

I certainly hope so, because there really isn't much going on on this one!

If that's "just how it is", then it makes sense why cod sells 10 million copies launch month an bf doesn't.

People don't like BF as much because it takes teamwork. There is no mode where you can just run around and kill people and not worry about teammates. If you want to have a M60 sniper rifle go play COD if you want some level of real warfare then play BF.

You have 4 classes and weapons associated with those classes. As you play you go up in rank and unlock some items/abilities and you also will increase your class. So as you get more points as a class you get more upgrades and more weapons for that class. But your not going to unlock a sniper rifle playing as medic class. As I said before it's about teamwork. Get on a map with tanks and you got no engineers your tanks going to get blown up, or if other team has no engineers they will get destroyed. Snipers get motor strikes later on. Medics get the ability to revive player, engineers lay mines.

As for mass scale destruction its off. There is some level of destruction but you cant bring building down like you could in BF2.

 

[jye4ever]

Running BC2 side to side with BF3, Dice has definately shrunk everything down to a more COD size world so that they can get away with adding more objects into the world, more particle effects, better lighting, etc while maintaining an acceptable frame rate.

This might sound weird but there is real and realistic.

BC2 felt more real for me while BF3 seems more realistic, get what I'm trying to convey.

Neither are bad, but BF3 definately has a COD visual vibe going for it with its smaller world objects.

No doubt that there is more going on in BF3 than BC2, but it all feels smaller for me.

Not by much but just enough to feel it, see it.

 

[mfoga]

Actually, yeah, I do. I've worked in games and currently work at an interactive software development company.

If this is an older build that makes it even more useless as a beta. This is just a demo guys

Whatever say what you want it's a beta. Are they testing the software maybe not but they sure as hell testing the servers. They can easily test the software side if the MP but they cant easily test servers let alone stress test servers. Thats where we come in and of people you should realize that if you work in software development.

I did QC for years on software and I could test functionality all day but testing how a server help up to 80-100 megs of traffic per second I could never do without getting large scale companies involved in testing.

 

[darthviper107]

There's way more than just stress testing the servers that would be involved in a beta, to be useful they'd want to be testing all types of hardware and situations--it's too close to release for that to be the case and if it's an older build then again, it's even more useless. This is just marketing to get more interest in the game. Rather than just having the release to go up against all the other games, they've got a month of people playing it before it gets released.

 

[snappahead]

Jye4ever, I think you feel that way because you're playing on a small map. If you put Metro next to Port Valdez or Leguna Presa, it looks tiny and cramped. Put those same maps next to Caspian Border and they look about the same. Its a huge, open map. Kind of like Harvest Day, but with a lot more hills and trees. I don't think the game will feel even a little small when it's out.

 

[Grosby]

Here's a wonderfully amusing video. It cracks me up, the reactions of the people being burned, no idea what's happening. I actually find it a little disturbing, particularly the part where he follows the guy up the stairs.

[ame="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R93iIrmZ4qA"]BF3: 870 + slugs + torching GAMEPLAY in HD - YouTube[/ame]

 

[snappahead]

The disturbing thing to me is watching a guy snipe with a shotgun. A shotgun with an a cog scope. Just great.

 

[jye4ever]

Here's a wonderfully amusing video. It cracks me up, the reactions of the people being burned, no idea what's happening. I actually find it a little disturbing, particularly the part where he follows the guy up the stairs.

BF3: 870 + slugs + torching GAMEPLAY in HD - YouTube

Pure insanity

 

[Uncanny Web-Slinger]

Running BC2 side to side with BF3, Dice has definately shrunk everything down to a more COD size world so that they can get away with adding more objects into the world, more particle effects, better lighting, etc while maintaining an acceptable frame rate.

This might sound weird but there is real and realistic.

BC2 felt more real for me while BF3 seems more realistic, get what I'm trying to convey.

Neither are bad, but BF3 definately has a COD visual vibe going for it with its smaller world objects.

No doubt that there is more going on in BF3 than BC2, but it all feels smaller for me.

Not by much but just enough to feel it, see it.

I will have to get used to the smaller guns, i loved the big beefy guns of BC2