Green Lantern - General One Sixth Figure Discussion

[kajobaldisimo]

I agree. They should cancel Sucker Punch and give us Evil Dead figures instead. Those movies made more than they cost

I agree. Ash FTWorld!

 

[ShadowX81]

You're wrong. Your mistake is looking at the budgets instead of ticket sales. With the exception of Avengers (which has a built in fanbase and wasn't created by Joss), do you really believe an Angel or Buffy movie would match $219,851,172 in ticket sales? Coming in at $38,849,097, Serenity didn't even earn a quarter of that.

Green Lantern was a classic comic book character that people were already somewhat familliar with, and on top of that had large marketing budget. It was going to make a huge amount of money based on curiosity alone. Doesn't make the film any less of an embarassing turd regardless of how much it made.

Meanwhile the "Firefly" franchise was still somewhat obscure at the time so of course it didn't make much money.

Now while you're looking at GL merchandise, I've yet to even see a company have enough faith in any of Whedon's created properties to even invest in that level of commitment to release products to stores like TRU, Target, WalMart, etc.

Superheroes are considered kid friendly properties so of course it makes sense that they would release them in toy stores. Buffy merchandise was aimed at the older collectors (meaning different varieties of products in different types of stores) so you really cannot compare the two in the same way. But make no mistake; that merchandise did exist, and was quite popular.

By "large fanbase" do you mean the five people currently viewing the Whedonville forum? "Critical acclaim" doesn't mean jack if the viewers/buyers aren't there. Why do you think HT keeps pumping out Predator figures but has yet to make a single Charles Foster Kane?

As opposed to the similar amount of people here who actually feel that a Green Lantern figure is worth making?
Id say the fact that 10 years later it is still a relativly popular franchise says alot. I bet there will be no one at all still talking about GL in 2021. Hell, its been less than a year and look how little people care.
Whedon has both high ratings and buyers. Green Lantern has niether.

 

[Uncanny Web-Slinger]

Did you even read the statement? They explicitly said they have too much on their plate

There's plenty of examples of SURE sellers that HT has inexplicably abandoned or not made
- Rorschach from Watchmen
- Ra's Al Ghul from Batman Begins

Add Doc Ock instead of New Goblin too, and You can probably add Neyriri to that list, doubt she'll come along

What's to figure out? Its an organic suit achieved through CGI with some glow in the dark bits. How is that any different than Jake Sully? Just sculpt a GL suit with joints from the ground up and paint it pretty colors. The end. I don't see the problem.

They wanted to do it all fancy or not at all

They wimped out on GL, big time. It would have made for a stunning figure that likely would have drawn a ton of non-GL fans the way their first Captain America won over many who admitted to not being great fans of that particular character.

Despite the film, the figure would've looked amazing lig-up or not and drawn in customers

They only made 1 figure from Avatar and that was about as big as it gets.

They've got the body, modify it, sculpt a Neytiri head and they've got a winner on their hands

 

[thenammagazine]

Green Lantern was a classic comic book character that people were already somewhat familliar with, and on top of that had large marketing budget. It was going to make a huge amount of money based on curiosity alone. Doesn't make the film any less of an embarassing turd regardless of how much it made.

Meanwhile the "Firefly" franchise was still somewhat obscure at the time so of course it didn't make much money.

Superheroes are considered kid friendly properties so of course it makes sense that they would release them in toy stores. Buffy merchandise was aimed at the older collectors (meaning different varieties of products in different types of stores) so you really cannot compare the two in the same way. But make no mistake; that merchandise did exist, and was quite popular.

As opposed to the similar amount of people here who actually feel that a Green Lantern figure is worth making?
Id say the fact that 10 years later it is still a relativly popular franchise says alot. I bet there will be no one at all still talking about GL in 2021. Hell, its been less than a year and look how little people care.
Whedon has both high ratings and buyers. Green Lantern has niether.

You keep mixing up the studio for the audience. Enough people cared about the movie for it to rack up $219,851,172. That's not chump change, and that's not a handfull of people, that's asses in seats for repeat viewings. You keep trying to talk your way around that.

 

[Uncanny Web-Slinger]

I never complained that I HAD to come here.

In fact, really the only reason I'm posting in the thread is because I'm surprised that anyone would have thought that after this long that Hot Toys would make a Green Lantern figure when the movie was such crap.

1. Because they said they were and have NEVER announced a licens and never made a thing from it. History speaks.

2. MGS was 16 months before the figures started, this is something like 10 or 11, so time isn't a factor

3. Wasn't the Buffy The Vampire Slayer movie deemed crap too?

Green Lantern figures shouldn't be in the Hot Toys shop.

So becuase you don't want them they shouldn't be made for those who do, Nice attitude

Simple fix.
If you think a thread is useless don't come back to it.
Goodbye
Problem solved for everyone.

That is a good idea. Another good idea is for people who don't want this thread open TO NOT READ THIS THREAD. Maybe someone should tell him that a thread doesn't have to be closed for him to ignor it. HE COULD JUST IGNOR IT!

 

[darthviper107]

MGS wasn't a movie, it was a series that didn't have anything going on when it was announced. The Green Lantern figure was announced only because of the movie, they were hoping for success of the movie to create interest in the figure. MGS didn't have that issue since the situation of interest was going to be the same as when they announced it if not better.


I would forget the BtVS movie, it hardly exists. But if you think of the show, which had 7 seasons (9 if you count the comics) and then 5 seasons of Angel, I wouldn't be surprised if they made hundreds of millions of dollars.

Remember about the Green Lantern movie, it didn't pay for itself, they made nothing off it.

Did you even read the statement? They explicitly said they have too much on their plate

Did you read your own statement?

Here's the full text of the GL question translation:

https://www.toysdaily.com/discuz/thread-182030-1-1.html

Green Lantern Green Lantern "can not launch more than 90%, and a few reasons, one movie at the box office just general reputation, and the second is looking at a light body, headache, and spent a lot of time exactly how to deal with? Production, Team after thinking it over, wanted to use materials suitable? also thought of PVC, rubber, etc., but also transparent but also suitable for color but also luminous, like a long time, did not fully grasp, so stop. Although the late little prospect can be resolved, but the balance are stopped, in fact, I feel pity, which to say sorry to a congregation of fans wait patiently.

The first thing said there was Box office and general reputation.

If it's true, then the movie doing poorly and people hating it is a very good reason for them not to make the figure.

 

[Frank]

Remember about the Green Lantern movie, it didn't pay for itself, they made nothing off it.



Did you read your own statement?


The first thing said there was Box office and general reputation.

If it's true, then the movie doing poorly and people hating it is a very good reason for them not to make the figure.

Looks like it was a number of things that killed it. As much money as the movie made, it's astounding how much they spent to produce it. The costume must have caused them headaches, but it's a popularity contest as of this announcement. Which is a shame. Couldn't we hit that sweet spot between mega hits and suicide missions? It's kinda scary now that HT is looking at the bottom line. What about all those "popular" internet peg-warmers, huh? Next year might see more setbacks than milestones!

Speaking of dreams that will never come true...

Doc Oc. That guy would be gantry-level expensive. I'd still get him though.

 

[SideshoMel]

I guess they only made room for one green superhero. What a waste of a license! Was so looking forward to see a Green Lantern done.

 

[Uncanny Web-Slinger]

Considering they have one sentence about the movie's performance vs a whole paragraoh about their attempts at products from it, it's resonable to assume they actually really did spend a good amount of time trying to do it. They wouldn't have spent that time if they counted the movie's perfomance as the majority factor in the supposed cancelation.

As for the BTVS film, they wouldn't have green-lit the TV show without it, and yet they did green-light the TV show despite the poor impact of the film.

Anyone know what HT (if this is from HT) meant by "can not launch more than 90%"

 

[thenammagazine]

I'm betting that was a translator goof.

 

[TheFiend]

So....has it been cancelled or not? Is that why the thread title was changed?

 

[Uncanny Web-Slinger]

There's been no first-party OFFICIAL ANNOUNCEMENT of the cancelation from Hot Toys themselves, just an interview segment translated from HK.





























But then again they didn't announce when Watchmen was canceled, so

 

[Hydeous]

At least they did give us 2 watchmen figures at the end of the day.

 

[Khev]

Meanwhile the "Firefly" franchise was still somewhat obscure at the time so of course it didn't make much money.

I'm not exactly sure what argument you're trying to make here. Are you suggesting that a movie is incapable of making more than 38 million unless it was part of a non-obscure franchise prior to release?

 

[thenammagazine]

I'm not exactly sure what argument you're trying to make here. Are you suggesting that a movie is incapable of making more than 38 million unless it was part of a non-obscure franchise prior to release?

But it wasn't that obscure to begin with. He's delusional. The series (Firefly) was released on Fox and had piss poor ratings there (when it was free) and was canceled. A shame because it's a fun series, but nevertheless, the rating were poor and Fox gave it the axe.

 

[JMW326]

So since this has been turned in to a General One Sixth Figure Discussion for Green Lantern so quickly, where is the consolidation of the many many Batman Threads? If you just look at page one at any given time there is more than ten going on at once.

 

[Wulf]

So since this has been turned in to a General One Sixth Figure Discussion for Green Lantern so quickly, where is the consolidation of the many many Batman Threads? If you just look at page one at any given time there is more than ten going on at once.

22 threads to be exact (right now)..

This forum really needs a Batman forum section..

 

[toystales]

Hot Toys is all over The Dark Knight so much so that they can't be bothered even giving us a single GL!

 

[Falconer]

Perhaps they had a problem making the suit glow green like that rumour that did the rounds on the Tron Legacy stuff or they got cold feet due to how badly the film did at the box office?

It's a shame hopefully we're all still see this figure released.

 

[Frank]

Perhaps they had a problem making the suit glow green like that rumour that did the rounds on the Tron Legacy stuff or they got cold feet due to how badly the film did at the box office?

It's a shame hopefully we're all still see this figure released.

To be fair, it's not that it did poorly. It just didn't do well enough to cover expenses and criticism.

Happy thoughts.