My idea for a third batman movie
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villainsfan42
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agreed, but what is his actual character like? i'm not all that familiar with black mask.
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Neither am I, hence why I want him.
aussieinnyc
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I wouldn't be surprised (about the Catwoman thing, not you being wrong. Although now I think about it....
) There are certainly a lot of things that he's said he wouldn't/couldn't do.I don't know Black Mask - I've never read any Batman comics/books (I have Year One and The Killing Joke being delivered in the next couple of days though) but Nolan's shown through Ras and Scarecrow that he doesn't necessarily need the heavy-hitting well-known villains. And if the movie does shift the focus back to Batman, like I think it should (if it's a story if his redemption as it seems logical it would be), then a lesser-known villain may be just the thing.
villainsfan42
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ah, very interesting.
CelticP, are you some type of movie philosopher?
'cause i am!
CelticP, are you some type of movie philosopher?
'cause i am!
villainsfan42
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omg! it's too late to stay on the comp.
see you all tomorrow.
P.S. It's been great arguing with you Celtic.
see you all tomorrow.
P.S. It's been great arguing with you Celtic.
villainsfan42
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You do realize that in the comics, joker would never stay in Arkham. He ALWAYS escapes. ALWAYS
DinoLast
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I think one of the best characters to use in a realistic Nolan Batman movie, would be Deadshot. He looked really cool in Gotham Knight. They could do a story where he is hired to kill Batman, who is now on the run from the Law.
villainsfan42
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i'm not all too familiar with him. who is he, who hired him, and why?
Kibishii
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Freaked Out
I'm in total agreement, not only cause of how much he looks like Heath, but also because hes a pretty good actor, and from what I've read about him he can play a psycho well.
Nocturne
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That's a very interesting choice in a good way and would have a connection to Heath because they appeared together in 10 Things I hate About You.
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Comics. Not a movie trilogy.
villainsfan42
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First off, let me say, who the hell cares which one it is, second, geeeee, i dunno, maybe, just possibly these movies are BASED OFF OF THE COMIC BOOKS!
villainsfan42
Super Freak
Absolutely, he would be perfect for the joker. Looks just like him.
Darth_Fatso
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I wrote this idea on Superherohype a few months back. I've made a few changes to it though. So heres my take.
The Joker and Two-Face pretty much left the criminal underworld in shambles in TDK, Roman Sionis who was once the head of major cosmetics company Janis Cosmetics untill it nearly went bankrupt because of improper testing of a new beauty product which left several people disfigured is forced to resign as head of his own company and is bought out by Wayne Enterprises. After this his fiancee Selina Kyle who unknown to him is at the time is a thrill seeking jewel thief known as the Catburgler leaves him. Selena and Bruce start to develop a relationship which drives Sionis mad and he vows revenge against Wayne, Wayne Corp, and Selina. He then creates a black skull mask and uses what's left of his money and rounds up whats left of the criminal underworld who are in a gang war and unites them and becomes the leader of all the major crime syndicates and gangs and begins his reign of terror targeting high ranking employees of Wayne Enterprises and people close to Bruce and Selina Kyle including perhaps Alfred and/or Lucius and Selina's sister. Batman rescues Alfred and/or Lucius but fails to rescue Selina's sister who is murdered. Selina is now decides to hunt down Black Mask and his gang and becomes Catwoman.
While Batman is trying to fight the mob led by Black Mask as well as being hunted by police and as Bruce Wayne is in the public eye because his employees are being kidnapped by BLM's gang, enter Edward Nashton a brilliant yet narcessistic FBI profiler sent in to help with the investigation on capturing Batman. But as Batman continuisly outsmarts Nashton's traps, it slowly begins to drive him psychotic and he eventually becomes The Riddler who is so hell bent on discovering Batmans' true idenity he strats using deadly traps and begins kidnapping and killing prominant Gotham citizens to get Batman's attention. As the Riddler, Nashton sends riddles to the press giving them a 7 day deadline to figure out the puzzle or he will kill a new victim. With still no luck on capturing Batman, the Riddler decides to break his pattern and kidnapps Commissioner Gordon who he belives is helping Batman avoid capture and gives Batman three days to find him before he's killed so Batman must track him down. And to make matters worse Batman now has to contend with Catwoman who has become a vigilante who slowly becomes more violent. While Batman tries to bring these villians to justice, he also finds himself attracted to Catwoman even though she is a criminal.
I think this could perhaps be an interesting idea. The reason I like these villians is after Batman revealed himself to Gotham, I like to think that it made way for the "freaks" to come out of hiding like Joker and it would show just how bad it's gotten since the Jokers arrival. The Riddler being a law enforcement agent would show that you now have freaks working with the law, Black Mask would show that the mob is now under the control of a freak and Batman falling for Catwoman whould show that Batman himself is falling for a freak. Also as most know both Batman Begins and TDK had underlying themes. In BB it was fear and in TDK it was escalation and likely the theme for the third movie will be redemtion therefor I would like to see more focous on Batman like in BB. One idea that I also had was because of the pressure of being hunted by the law and outcast by society not to mention the death of Rachel and Harvey (if he is indeed dead) still haunting him, I imagine Bats/Bruce is in a very dark place in his life. I would like to perhaps see Batman really loose control and nearly kill someone. Realizing he is starting to loose it he decides to seek redemtion not only in the public eye but in his own as well, and finally except his role as Batman.
The Joker and Two-Face pretty much left the criminal underworld in shambles in TDK, Roman Sionis who was once the head of major cosmetics company Janis Cosmetics untill it nearly went bankrupt because of improper testing of a new beauty product which left several people disfigured is forced to resign as head of his own company and is bought out by Wayne Enterprises. After this his fiancee Selina Kyle who unknown to him is at the time is a thrill seeking jewel thief known as the Catburgler leaves him. Selena and Bruce start to develop a relationship which drives Sionis mad and he vows revenge against Wayne, Wayne Corp, and Selina. He then creates a black skull mask and uses what's left of his money and rounds up whats left of the criminal underworld who are in a gang war and unites them and becomes the leader of all the major crime syndicates and gangs and begins his reign of terror targeting high ranking employees of Wayne Enterprises and people close to Bruce and Selina Kyle including perhaps Alfred and/or Lucius and Selina's sister. Batman rescues Alfred and/or Lucius but fails to rescue Selina's sister who is murdered. Selina is now decides to hunt down Black Mask and his gang and becomes Catwoman.
While Batman is trying to fight the mob led by Black Mask as well as being hunted by police and as Bruce Wayne is in the public eye because his employees are being kidnapped by BLM's gang, enter Edward Nashton a brilliant yet narcessistic FBI profiler sent in to help with the investigation on capturing Batman. But as Batman continuisly outsmarts Nashton's traps, it slowly begins to drive him psychotic and he eventually becomes The Riddler who is so hell bent on discovering Batmans' true idenity he strats using deadly traps and begins kidnapping and killing prominant Gotham citizens to get Batman's attention. As the Riddler, Nashton sends riddles to the press giving them a 7 day deadline to figure out the puzzle or he will kill a new victim. With still no luck on capturing Batman, the Riddler decides to break his pattern and kidnapps Commissioner Gordon who he belives is helping Batman avoid capture and gives Batman three days to find him before he's killed so Batman must track him down. And to make matters worse Batman now has to contend with Catwoman who has become a vigilante who slowly becomes more violent. While Batman tries to bring these villians to justice, he also finds himself attracted to Catwoman even though she is a criminal.
I think this could perhaps be an interesting idea. The reason I like these villians is after Batman revealed himself to Gotham, I like to think that it made way for the "freaks" to come out of hiding like Joker and it would show just how bad it's gotten since the Jokers arrival. The Riddler being a law enforcement agent would show that you now have freaks working with the law, Black Mask would show that the mob is now under the control of a freak and Batman falling for Catwoman whould show that Batman himself is falling for a freak. Also as most know both Batman Begins and TDK had underlying themes. In BB it was fear and in TDK it was escalation and likely the theme for the third movie will be redemtion therefor I would like to see more focous on Batman like in BB. One idea that I also had was because of the pressure of being hunted by the law and outcast by society not to mention the death of Rachel and Harvey (if he is indeed dead) still haunting him, I imagine Bats/Bruce is in a very dark place in his life. I would like to perhaps see Batman really loose control and nearly kill someone. Realizing he is starting to loose it he decides to seek redemtion not only in the public eye but in his own as well, and finally except his role as Batman.
uscmhicks
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I really doubt Nolan will recast the Joker.
Just because someone looks like someone doesn't mean they can adapt to the role the same way Heath did. For some reason I would see reacasting his exact character somewhat disrespectful . Heath was perfect as the joker , he sadly passed away.
He worked so hard on the role and the movies character he played turned out amazing.
They now have the chance to keep the Joker out of the movie and I think if they bring back a guy who looks like him to finish off a story that doesn't need finishing they shouldn't . Even if the other guy was an amazing actor its not the point in my opinion.
Its like having another character play Indiana Jones or the terminator.
I don't mind if another Joker appears in another completely different Batman movie univerise but I think they should start with another bad guy now.
I still think the Riddler has alot of potentional in this series.
I always thought after seeing Coleman Reese get denied his cash he could have gone a little crazy. Plus he knew who Batman was so then theres even more drama.
Doubt the actor who played him coud hold up such an important role though.
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