RagingBull
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I'm sure you all know the stories of Lance Armstrong & the USADA. So what do you think, is he guilty or not?
Lance Armstrong A Cheat or Legend
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Re: Lance Armstrong A Cheat or Legand
yeah i still believe he's a Legend, Haters will always Hate.
yeah i still believe he's a Legend, Haters will always Hate.
Re: Lance Armstrong A Cheat or Legand
Has actually failed any drug tests yet?
Has actually failed any drug tests yet?
Lejuan
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Re: Lance Armstrong A Cheat or Legand
Drug cheat. But I'd bet more than half the guys on the cycling circuit are drug users. It's not as though he had an unfair advantage.
Drug cheat. But I'd bet more than half the guys on the cycling circuit are drug users. It's not as though he had an unfair advantage.
RagingBull
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Re: Lance Armstrong A Cheat or Legand
Surly if you pass that amount of Drug tests over such a long period of time he must be innocent.
Surly if you pass that amount of Drug tests over such a long period of time he must be innocent.
RagingBull
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Re: Lance Armstrong A Cheat or Legand
No never. That's his argument really why he doesn't want to keep on fighting the USADA
No never. That's his argument really why he doesn't want to keep on fighting the USADA
Re: Lance Armstrong A Cheat or Legand
Spell Legend correctly first!
You don't stop fighting unless you've something to hide IMO.
Spell Legend correctly first!
You don't stop fighting unless you've something to hide IMO.
thenammagazine
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Re: Lance Armstrong A Cheat or Legand
And that's all that needs to be said. He never failed a test.
And that's all that needs to be said. He never failed a test.
Re: Lance Armstrong A Cheat or Legand
What I dont understand is why is USADA stripping Lance of his tour titles? I thought they were just a drug testing service and not a Bike riding sanctioning body. I follow boxing and when a fighter tests positive its the sanctioning body and not the drug testing agency that strips the fighter of his title.
What I dont understand is why is USADA stripping Lance of his tour titles? I thought they were just a drug testing service and not a Bike riding sanctioning body. I follow boxing and when a fighter tests positive its the sanctioning body and not the drug testing agency that strips the fighter of his title.
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Re: Lance Armstrong A Cheat or Legand
In the 80s and before, it seems like most pro cyclists were taking performance enhancing drugs. It is said more than any other athletic game. However, restrictions have become quite stringent and testing is done more often, so it is rarely the case now. Usually now it's just blood boosting, which is taking out your own blood, storing it, and then taking time to make more blood over a few weeks.Then, they add their own stored blood back into their bodies to increase their endurance.
It seems like the likelihood of being caught once you have won and thus losing your victory doesn't seem worth it. What's the point of doing all that work only to have it stripped away?
You make a fair point though, that nearly everyone tries to get as much advantage as possible, so who is to say that everyone else hasn't done exactly as he did? He always passed the tests, so whatever he did couldn't have been that great an advantage.
He passed the tests when given, so he should keep his victories.
I've always supported Armstrong, so I still think he is one of the greatest athletes who has ever lived. The tour De France is the toughest athletic competition in the world, and anyone who has won more than anyone must be truly great. All other athletic competitions pale in comparison to the demands of the Tour.
In the 80s and before, it seems like most pro cyclists were taking performance enhancing drugs. It is said more than any other athletic game. However, restrictions have become quite stringent and testing is done more often, so it is rarely the case now. Usually now it's just blood boosting, which is taking out your own blood, storing it, and then taking time to make more blood over a few weeks.Then, they add their own stored blood back into their bodies to increase their endurance.
It seems like the likelihood of being caught once you have won and thus losing your victory doesn't seem worth it. What's the point of doing all that work only to have it stripped away?
You make a fair point though, that nearly everyone tries to get as much advantage as possible, so who is to say that everyone else hasn't done exactly as he did? He always passed the tests, so whatever he did couldn't have been that great an advantage.
He passed the tests when given, so he should keep his victories.
I've always supported Armstrong, so I still think he is one of the greatest athletes who has ever lived. The tour De France is the toughest athletic competition in the world, and anyone who has won more than anyone must be truly great. All other athletic competitions pale in comparison to the demands of the Tour.
Nacho
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Re: Lance Armstrong A Cheat or Legand
If there is any solid evidence against the man for drug taking then I
say put it out there for the public. If not then leave him the f@#% alone. Armstrong is a legned..
If there is any solid evidence against the man for drug taking then I
say put it out there for the public. If not then leave him the f@#% alone. Armstrong is a legned..
Re: Lance Armstrong A Cheat or Legand
Never failed 500 confirmed drug tests. Only proof is a handful of former teammates that were caught doping that signed statements. They probably made some deal too, to throw the guy under the bus. Its BS imo. I don't know if he is guilty or innocent, but at least have a positive drug test with these allegations.
Never failed 500 confirmed drug tests. Only proof is a handful of former teammates that were caught doping that signed statements. They probably made some deal too, to throw the guy under the bus. Its BS imo. I don't know if he is guilty or innocent, but at least have a positive drug test with these allegations.
Darth Cruel
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Re: Lance Armstrong A Cheat or Legand
I believe that he was in some way involved.
But I do not believe his wins should have been stripped.
I believe that he was in some way involved.
But I do not believe his wins should have been stripped.
Darth Madden
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Re: Lance Armstrong A Cheat or Legand
He's a cheat but when the entire field was doping then its still an even playing field and he still kicked all their asses.
He's a cheat but when the entire field was doping then its still an even playing field and he still kicked all their asses.
hairlesswookiee
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Re: Lance Armstrong A Cheat or Legand
Agreed. Not sure if he's a cheat or not, but without any evidence to prove it he's still the champ IMO.
Agreed. Not sure if he's a cheat or not, but without any evidence to prove it he's still the champ IMO.
EXOTICLEX
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Re: Lance Armstrong A Cheat or Legand
this....there are a ton of cyclist that cheat....ton....
this....there are a ton of cyclist that cheat....ton....
Re: Lance Armstrong A Cheat or Legand
Failing a test isn't the only form of evidence out there, and when there are so many trying to find ways to help folks avoid being caught (who are likely paid much more than the guys who are paid to identify cheats) it's hard to put too much faith in that process alone. I haven't paid all that much attention, but it smells like the guy is a cheat. I can't imagine there is truly a "vast conspiracy" of all his former teammates, etc. being out there to get him for a cash-in or out of jealousy.
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Failing a test isn't the only form of evidence out there, and when there are so many trying to find ways to help folks avoid being caught (who are likely paid much more than the guys who are paid to identify cheats) it's hard to put too much faith in that process alone. I haven't paid all that much attention, but it smells like the guy is a cheat. I can't imagine there is truly a "vast conspiracy" of all his former teammates, etc. being out there to get him for a cash-in or out of jealousy.
Re: Lance Armstrong A Cheat or Legand
I think he pissed off someone with a lot of power.
I'm also surprised no one has pointed out that you misspelled "legend".
I think he pissed off someone with a lot of power.
I'm also surprised no one has pointed out that you misspelled "legend".
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