Pacific Rim: Uprising - March 23, 2018

[guyver1]

He's too busy working on Shape of Water 2 Electric Boogaloo to notice this film



Eastwood jr doesn't even have a good voice. Even that is bland



I have no doubt. I'm guessing Gundam in general was probably the biggest inspiration for most of the Mech stuff in this. Considering one of the Jaegers crashes next to a giant Gundam statue... "I clapped cause I knew what that was!"



Then everyone would be saying "this new IP should have just been Pacific Rim 2"...ya can't win but I agree. This felt like a new IP anyway.

I wonder how well this will do when it opens in Japan/China. If it doesn't succeed there, this series might be done...or doomed to be a CGI anime on netflix

I normally wouldn’t mind they continue the franchise through Netflix. Netflix has really stepped up their game with original programming in the last two years, i’m Really impressed

Have you seen the new Godzilla anime..wow

 

[crows]

Oh, I thought that was a reference to the pilots at the Shao corporation in charge of the drones and such. I guess it can be applicable.

They mention his name

 

[Biojex]

I normally wouldn’t mind they continue the franchise through Netflix. Netflix has really stepped up their game with original programming in the last two years, i’m Really impressed

I wouldn't mind a traditional anime, but it would likely be a CGI anime. And I really don't like those. The aesthetics are really hard for me to enjoy.

They mention his name

Oh okay...i must have missed it.

I'll have to see it again...Or maybe I'll read the junior novelization

 

[crows]

The original movie really shot themselves in the foot by closing the bridge in the first one.
Closing the bridge ruined this movie. They way they got it opened was very convoluted and stupid.
Their reason for the jaegers to be here was incredibly ridiculous.
I cant believe they destroyed the first movie by changing why the kaiju come to this planet

 

[guyver1]

I wouldn't mind a traditional anime, but it would likely be a CGI anime. And I really don't like those. The aesthetics are really hard for me to enjoy.



Oh okay...i must have missed it.

I'll have to see it again...Or maybe I'll read the junior novelization

If they mix the two like Godzilla on Netflix, I can live with it

 

[guyver1]

The original movie really shot themselves in the foot by closing the bridge in the first one.
Closing the bridge ruined this movie. They way they got it opened was very convoluted and stupid.
Their reason for the jaegers to be here was incredibly ridiculous.
I cant believe they destroyed the first movie by changing why the kaiju come to this planet

Reminds me of the Cloverfield films

First...Woah that was crazy

Second..meh

Third..WTF zzzz why even bother

 

[crows]

This movie is a lot like independence day 2

 

[Popnfresh98]

They mention it, and it's where the new creatures come from, but nothing more. It sounds like they'll delve into it with the next one.

ok heres the thing.
90% of the movie they dont talk about it, they dont mention it, it is closed.
then at the end they open it for 3 minutes in a really stupid stupid way, it gets closed and a couple of monsters come out. thats the end of it.
it was so quick if you arent pay attention you will miss it.

Dang, that’s ridiculous. The art direction of the other dimension was really cool, it was the first time in a film where it actually seemed like this other world was truly different from ours and perhaps even followed different laws for its universe too. Truly alien. Glad to know it was wasted like everything else (Also I read some of those spoilers and I have no interest to even see it anymore, thanks for saving me money fellas)

 

[jye4ever]

DeKnight has said Hunnam had a schedule conflict and that they have a deleted scene explaining his whereabouts.

James Gunn cameo was also deleted he played a DJ at the party

 

[jye4ever]

This movie is a lot like independence day 2

Nah ID2 was much worse.

 

[crows]

Dang, that’s ridiculous. The art direction of the other dimension was really cool, it was the first time in a film where it actually seemed like this other world was truly different from ours and perhaps even followed different laws for its universe too. Truly alien. Glad to know it was wasted like everything else (Also I read some of those spoilers and I have no interest to even see it anymore, thanks for saving me money fellas)

Ill tell u how it opens

The evil robots go to the bridge opening in the sea and shoot at it, it opens for some reason. All it needed was robots shooting at it.

The 3 kaiju come out. Then the scientist guy finds a way to disable the evil robots.

Then the bridge closes when the robots turn off.... no explanation as why it would close again... it is truly illogical.

Just imagine how dangerous that bridge was and how importantit was to close it. How hard it was to close it.
How only kaiju could pass by.... how blowing it up wouldnt close it....

But here it was like opening and closing your garage

 

[crows]

Nah ID2 was much worse.

It follows the same structure

 

[Popnfresh98]

Ill tell u how it opens

The evil robots go to the bridge opening in the sea and shoot at it, it opens for some reason. All it needed was robots shooting at it.

The 3 kaiju come out. Then the scientist guy finds a way to disable the evil robots.

Then the bridge closes when the robots turn off.... no explanation as why it would close again... it is truly illogical.

Just imagine how dangerous that bridge was and how importantit was to close it. How hard it was to close it.
How only kaiju could pass by.... how blowing it up wouldnt close it....

But here it was like opening and closing your garage

Completely ridiculous man. Yeah it was such a big deal in the first movie, this unheralded event and opportunity, and the character sacrificing himself to get the others in. Always hate it when movies don’t follow the established logic of previous ones in the series.

Well, talking about that just makes me want to watch PR1 again, I may do that tonight

 

[Biojex]

The original movie really shot themselves in the foot by closing the bridge in the first one.
Closing the bridge ruined this movie. They way they got it opened was very convoluted and stupid.
Their reason for the jaegers to be here was incredibly ridiculous.
I cant believe they destroyed the first movie by changing why the kaiju come to this planet

It was okay to close it in the first movie, that way if the film did really bad and didn't get a sequel it could be a nice stand alone feature...obviously we got a sequel for better or worse.

I thought the portal opening was actually more simple than convoluted...like a little too easy.

It does seem a little ridiculous that earth was still pumping so much money into the jaeger program even after ten years...

In the first movie, it was alluded that the kaiju were sent to clear the planet...the terraforming bit is kind of just an add on, but it's pretty much the same thing.

This movie is a lot like independence day 2

Naaaaah. ID2 has almost no redeeming qualities...

DeKnight has said Hunnam had a schedule conflict and that they have a deleted scene explaining his whereabouts.

James Gunn cameo was also deleted he played a DJ at the party

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probably for the best

Ill tell u how it opens

The evil robots go to the bridge opening in the sea and shoot at it, it opens for some reason. All it needed was robots shooting at it.

The 3 kaiju come out. Then the scientist guy finds a way to disable the evil robots.

Then the bridge closes when the robots turn off.... no explanation as why it would close again... it is truly illogical.

Just imagine how dangerous that bridge was and how importantit was to close it. How hard it was to close it.
How only kaiju could pass by.... how blowing it up wouldnt close it....

But here it was like opening and closing your garage

They weren't really shooting at it. The "breach" was nuclear in nature (mentioned by the first film) and since the drones were influenced/built (whatever) by the precursors through Charlie Day, they were obviously able to inform the technology and create the necessary nuclear reaction to create the breach again. Who knows why the precursors couldn't re-open it from their side again...Maybe the damage from exploding GD to them from the last film, left their tech crippled...who knows, that's something that can be expanded upon (NOT LIKELY)

There were also groups of drones in several different locations trying to reopen a breach. It wasn't just the one location.

The breach being closed easily in this film makes sense when you consider what was holding it open. In the first film they had to close the breach from the Precursors side. Which is why we couldn't blow it up from our side with nukes because the precursors were keeping it open with the tech on their side...giving reason why Gipsy had to go through the portal and detonate. In Uprising, it's the drones keeping it open on Earth side so it was easy to take out the mechanism that held the breach open.

 

[JAWS]

Nah ID2 was much worse.

Oh man I am so glad you said that...

I think that is why I enjoyed this film as much as I did... I was going in expecting ID4 type film or the last two transformers films... It was better then those by a lot IMO...

I can't defend the film... But I can say I don't think it was complete trash.

 

[JAWS]

It follows the same structure

That may be.. I don't recall ID2 at all but this was a far better time at the movies IMO...

I mean my expectations could not have been lower for this or for ID2

Difference is ID2 met those really low expectations... This one crawled out from them.

Its weird because I HATED those clips of the final battle... But in context of the film I did not... Perhaps it just looked better to me on the big screen.

I am 100% with you on the opening of the portal.. The whole sequence was the worst part of the film for me.

 

[guyver1]

I liked ID2 up until they jumped the shark with the Godzilla like Alien Queen running amuck

 

[crows]

It was okay to close it in the first movie, that way if the film did really bad and didn't get a sequel it could be a nice stand alone feature...obviously we got a sequel for better or worse.

I thought the portal opening was actually more simple than convoluted...like a little too easy.

It does seem a little ridiculous that earth was still pumping so much money into the jaeger program even after ten years...

In the first movie, it was alluded that the kaiju were sent to clear the planet...the terraforming bit is kind of just an add on, but it's pretty much the same thing.





Naaaaah. ID2 has almost no redeeming qualities...



probably for the best



They weren't really shooting at it. The "breach" was nuclear in nature (mentioned by the first film) and since the drones were influenced/built (whatever) by the precursors through Charlie Day, they were obviously able to inform the technology and create the necessary nuclear reaction to create the breach again. Who knows why the precursors couldn't re-open it from their side again...Maybe the damage from exploding GD to them from the last film, left their tech crippled...who knows, that's something that can be expanded upon (NOT LIKELY)

There were also groups of drones in several different locations trying to reopen a breach. It wasn't just the one location.

The breach being closed easily in this film makes sense when you consider what was holding it open. In the first film they had to close the breach from the Precursors side. Which is why we couldn't blow it up from our side with nukes because the precursors were keeping it open with the tech on their side...giving reason why Gipsy had to go through the portal and detonate. In Uprising, it's the drones keeping it open on Earth side so it was easy to take out the mechanism that held the breach open.

you are trying to make sense of it and i appreciate your imput and i appreciate the explanation, but it was still a very short very rushed, very anticlimactic scene.
Everything you said kinda makes some sense, but... the scene is too clumsy. The Breach shouldn't work like that. I dont remember ever hearing that the breach was nuclear. I remember that only Kaiju can cross it, and remember that it could only open from THEIR side. the breach was coded to Kaiju dna.
IF the breach was nuclear then i cant remember who said that in what scene. All i remember them talking about was that Gypsy was nuclear and could blow up the place

AND if the place was Nuclear then how come Gypsy was able to close it? if we go by your explanation then when gypsy blew up with its nuclear core then the Breach should have Open even more, not closed. why would a nuclear gypsy explosion make it close up?

Shouldn't the explosion of Gypsy in the first movie do EXACTLY What these robots were doing? So if what you said happened is what happend then this movie is ever worse of a piece of crap because it contradicts the entire ending of the first one.

My attitude is not against you, i dont have any aittude against you. at all. Im just pissed off thinking about this crap. what you were explaining makes sense but then it ruins the ending of the other one

 

[Biojex]

you are trying to make sense of it and i appreciate your imput and i appreciate the explanation, but it was still a very short very rushed, very anticlimactic scene.
Everything you said kinda makes some sense, but... the scene is too clumsy. The Breach shouldn't work like that. I dont remember ever hearing that the breach was nuclear. I remember that only Kaiju can cross it, and remember that it could only open from THEIR side. the breach was coded to Kaiju dna.
IF the breach was nuclear then i cant remember who said that in what scene. All i remember them talking about was that Gypsy was nuclear and could blow up the place

AND if the place was Nuclear then how come Gypsy was able to close it? if we go by your explanation then when gypsy blew up with its nuclear core then the Breach should have Open even more, not closed. why would a nuclear gypsy explosion make it close up?

Shouldn't the explosion of Gypsy in the first movie do EXACTLY What these robots were doing? So if what you said happened is what happend then this movie is ever worse of a piece of crap because it contradicts the entire ending of the first one.

My attitude is not against you, i dont have any aittude against you. at all. Im just pissed off thinking about this crap. what you were explaining makes sense but then it ruins the ending of the other one

It's all good. This is a civil discussion as far as I can tell, and yes almost everything I say is conjecture because the movie is too lazy to explain things...but for now my reasoning makes sense to me

I think you may have gotten hung up of my nuclear point. The only reason I mentioned that was to say the drones were creating some sort of reaction with their tech to open the portal. they were acting as "breach generators" rather than just shooting a gun or something. And the movie uses the word atomic rather than nuclear, my mistake. But Gottlieb mentions it, in one of his quick ramblings. (posted in video clip below at the 1:48 mark)

But in any case, all I'm saying is;

In the first film: The breach was being held open by the precursors on their side. Whatever "Breach generator" they had, we couldn't destroy it without going through to their side.

In Uprising. The "breach generator" (the drones) was on our side. That's why we could close the breach so easily. Because we can just take out the drones. The breaches weren't open long enough to remain open on their own.


As I said, this is all apologist conjecture . the clip I posted even devalues some of it because it makes it seem like the portal is self sustaining and that they have to collapse it with a bomb while inside it...but the end of the movie makes it seems like Gipsy Danger goes ALL the way to the other side. I really don't know, crows...I REALLY DON'T KNOW! Theze stoopid dang moofees!

 

[crows]

It's all good. This is a civil discussion as far as I can tell, and yes almost everything I say is conjecture because the movie is too lazy to explain things...but for now my reasoning makes sense to me

I think you may have gotten hung up of my nuclear point. The only reason I mentioned that was to say the drones were creating some sort of reaction with their tech to open the portal. they were acting as "breach generators" rather than just shooting a gun or something. And the movie uses the word atomic rather than nuclear, my mistake. But Gottlieb mentions it, in one of his quick ramblings. (posted in video clip below at the 1:48 mark)

But in any case, all I'm saying is;

In the first film: The breach was being held open by the precursors on their side. Whatever "Breach generator" they had, we couldn't destroy it without going through to their side.

In Uprising. The "breach generator" (the drones) was on our side. That's why we could close the breach so easily. Because we can just take out the drones. The breaches weren't open long enough to remain open on their own.


As I said, this is all apologist conjecture . the clip I posted even devalues some of it because it makes it seem like the portal is self sustaining and that they have to collapse it with a bomb while inside it...but the end of the movie makes it seems like Gipsy Danger goes ALL the way to the other side. I really don't know, crows...I REALLY DON'T KNOW! Theze stoopid dang moofees!

if the drones were able to open the breach then it should have stayed open. thats the problem, once the breach is open it shouldn't be able to close. it is not like a door, the breach was literally a Rip in the ocean between dimensions. a rip that took a nuclear bomb to close off.

Now they were treating it like an elevator door.... even if the Drones had the DNA to open it, (which it was NEVER said that the Kaiju opened the portal, it opened on its own by the aliens but it basically ripped the ocean floor) Even if they had the force and dna material to open it.....

The breach then should have stayed open again, because disabling the drones would not stop the hole from being opened. it would be like cutting a hole in a bottle of soda, you cannot just stop the soda because you remove the knife... thats such nonsense this movie is such garbage...

I can accept that the Kaiju drones opened the breach with their DNA somehow but the closing of it is completely irrational. specially if it opened big enough for 3 category 4 kaijus to come out. the breach was fully open at that point. the sequel for this could have been about the breach being opened again.

what a stupid movie seriously