Robert Rodriguez's PREDATORS Movie Thread - SPOILERS

[CelticPredator]

All Predators HAVE to lose. They HAVE to. They cannot win. If they win, the film fails. The audience doesnt care any more, they hate the movie.

We fans, love the creature, but the audience, they hate the creature (as a villian, not as a design or character), they root for it's demise.

I dont see why everyone is up in arms about a Predator dying. They always will die. It's always about the humans that over come it.

 

[MasterSafara]

I wish Rodriguez would have found a way to give us Tracker/Flusher and Falconer unmasked.

 

[fawk3s]

Because there preds seem stupid. They get killed way too easily.

 

[CelticPredator]

One ugly ass Predator was enough. I felt sorry for Mr. Black. He was so ugly, he's probably not the popular one on his planet. He's probably like this guy...

 

[Jaycepticon]

So where and what was the proposed Arnie cameo supposed to be?

 

[MasterSafara]

Anyone else think showing the humans being abducted each in their own environments back on Earth one by one would have been a better more creative idea for an intro with intro credits rather than humans immediately falling from the sky and then the title?

 

[DinoLast]

All Predators HAVE to lose. They HAVE to. They cannot win. If they win, the film fails. The audience doesnt care any more, they hate the movie.

We fans, love the creature, but the audience, they hate the creature (as a villian, not as a design or character), they root for it's demise.

I dont see why everyone is up in arms about a Predator dying. They always will die. It's always about the humans that over come it.

I think we all except that they have to die, but it takes away from Arnold's team, when we see a so called better Predator get taken out by one guy with a samurai sword. Falconer should have killed the Yakuza after having a good fight with him, then they could have used Classic to have taken him out before Berserker turns up and kills Classic.
That to me shows respect to the characters in the first movie

 

[CelticPredator]

Because there preds seem stupid. They get killed way too easily.

Well........

Predator was killed by a log.

Predator 2 was killed by getting his own disc in his gut.

Flusher- Blown up. Falconer- dismbowled. Mr. Black....FUBAR-ed.

Wolf-Bomb.

Scar- tail impaled/facehugged.


So....which Predators had the cooler deaths?

 

[CelticPredator]

Anyone else think showing the humans being abducted each in their own environments back on Earth one by one would have been a better more creative idea for an intro with intro credits rather than humans immediately falling from the sky and then the title?

The opening scene was, in the script, Royce hunting a man.

Cool scene. Wish it was in the movie...

But everyone? No....that would make you hate the characters. They're all monsters. Seeing Walter Goggins rape someone in the shower would not have been a good opening scene...

 

[CelticPredator]

So where and what was the proposed Arnie cameo supposed to be?

It's not in the movie. Thank christ.

 

[Jaycepticon]

It's not in the movie. Thank christ.

yeah, but what did they have originally planned for him?

 

[Biojex]

The opening scene was, in the script, Royce hunting a man.

Cool scene. Wish it was in the movie...

But everyone? No....that would make you hate the characters. They're all monsters. Seeing Walter Goggins rape someone in the shower would not have been a good opening scene...

plus we'd have to go through two establishments, one for us as the audience and again for the characters to each other. ultimately it would have caused a pacing issue.

 

[CelticPredator]

yeah, but what did they have originally planned for him?

As if a freight train was coming toward them.
Slowly Royce stands up. Isabelle alongside him.
Ready for whatever comes next.
Dust and ash swirl all around, obscuring vision in all
directions.
Then the cloud settles, revealing--
A PREDATOR SHIP
This isn’t the Enterprise. Ugly. Battered. Functional.
They stare.
A form SHIMMERS into view. A Predator. Another. More. About a
dozen of them.
Royce and Isabelle. No energy to fight. No point to run. They
simply wait.
Predators part like the Red Sea. Their leader -- his armor
different from the rest, covered in trophies from untold
hunts -- approaches.
Surveys up our duo. The devastation. Last but not least, the
slain Black Super Predator.
Slowly he removes his helmet.
The face beneath it belongs to--
DUTCH
The man. The myth. The legend.
DUTCH
Not bad, kid. Not bad at all.
SMASH TO BLACK
THE END

 

[Biojex]

^^haha a fraction of my brain says " thats awesome!" but the rest quickly kicks in and says "don't be stupid, that's preposterous"

 

[MasterSafara]

No we don't need a rape scene! Imagine Mombasa in the Sierra Leone doing his thing... Nickolai doin his... Royce like you say there was a script for hunting man per his mercenary job etc...

Stans judging from his clothing was abducted from a prison yard. So unless he was trying to get it on with a dude in the yard or it was a unisex prison the rape of a woman would be unlikely during the time of his abduction.

Couple more ideas for the film.
1.) would have been nice and interesting to see a flashback while Nolan is telling his story to how he went about killing 2-3 Preds.
2.) Dino you had a good idea with Falconer surviving the battle against Hanzo only to be defeated by Classic to get Classic a kill.
3.) Royce and Bezerker fight could have been interupted by the suddent emergence of one of those alien creatures the Preds brought to their planet in cages. Like the one that was chasing Edwin. Say Bezerker is about to off Royce when all of a sudden the alien creatures shoots into the frame spearing/tackling Bezerker to "save the day" so-to-speak for Royce and aid in his survival. Not on purpose. More like just because they're on the planet too. Afterall there was more than 1 empty cage.

 

[fawk3s]

Well........

Predator was killed by a log.

Predator 2 was killed by getting his own disc in his gut.

Flusher- Blown up. Falconer- dismbowled. Mr. Black....FUBAR-ed.

Wolf-Bomb.

Scar- tail impaled/facehugged.


So....which Predators had the cooler deaths?

First of all, Im not really gonna count in the AVP preds. But in their defence, the 3 in the first movie were "teenagers" and sucked, and yeah, AVPR was a total crap. But even a predator cant escape a nuclear explosion.

Predator 1 didnt die by getting hit with the log. He was just badly injured, and then decided to self destruct. He obviously overpowered Arnold, the invincible strongman, but was unlucky with not seeing the log. He was lucky aswell though, because Arnold could have killed him with a rock.

Predator 2 put up a good fight. He killed tons of men, includingg Busey, yet being trapped and visible to its prey. He got unlucky aswell because he lost his tech one by one, and in the final fight he was badly injured by the shotgun wounds and his hand cut off.

I havent seen the new movie, but hearing they fall for such easy traps such as grenades and getting sliced and diced by a sword, I start to question what part of the predators makes them "Super Predators"?

 

[MasterSafara]

Yeah I really wish we would have seen a clan of Predators in this one. I don't mean a new breed either. These hunting packs of 3 is getting old and boring anyway.
That script you posted would have been nice. 11 or so Preds to the clan with their clan leader seperated by unique armor etc.

Predator 2 did it and showed us our most favorite clan of Predators. I think everyone will agree... The Lost! Plus we were introduced to Predator 2 Elder Predator!!!

 

[MasterSafara]

First of all, Im not really gonna count in the AVP preds. But in their defence, the 3 in the first movie were "teenagers" and sucked, and yeah, AVPR was a total crap. But even a predator cant escape a nuclear explosion.

Predator 1 didnt die by getting hit with the log. He was just badly injured, and then decided to self destruct. He obviously overpowered Arnold, the invincible strongman, but was unlucky with not seeing the log. He was lucky aswell though, because Arnold could have killed him with a rock.

Predator 2 put up a good fight. He killed tons of men, includingg Busey, yet being trapped and visible to its prey. He got unlucky aswell because he lost his tech one by one, and in the final fight he was badly injured by the shotgun wounds and his hand cut off.

I havent seen the new movie, but hearing they fall for such easy traps such as grenades and getting sliced and diced by a sword, I start to question what part of the predators makes them "Super Predators"?

Yeah there was nothing "super" about these predators. Wait! I may have already said this, but there was something super about them...
THEY WERE A "SUPER" DISAPPOINTMENT!

These Preds don't have the youngblood/teen excuse either. I didn't get the impression they were novices yet they fought and acted as such. Huge let down...

 

[CelticPredator]

They never called them super Predators anyway...so they were never super Predators. Only just bigger ones. So there you go. End of story. Film canon negates Script canon.

 

[MasterSafara]

They never called them super Predators anyway...so they were never super Predators. Only just bigger ones. So there you go. End of story. Film canon negates Script canon.

I actually heard RR himself call these predators "super predators." So there you go.

Not very convincing RR. How could they have not seen this??