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Re: The Official "The Hobbit" movie thread *SPOILERS*
He's mentioned in the book, Azog is mentioned in the book too
He's mentioned in the book, Azog is mentioned in the book too
The Official "The Hobbit: An Unexpected Journey" movie thread *SPOILERS*
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Dol Guldur has to happen after Beorn but before Gandalf re-unites with the party towards Smaug's demise.
Dol Guldur has to happen after Beorn but before Gandalf re-unites with the party towards Smaug's demise.
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Re: The Official "The Hobbit" movie thread *SPOILERS*
Wonder when we'll get a tease for Part 2. Probably around march or so ya?
Wonder when we'll get a tease for Part 2. Probably around march or so ya?
DinoDB1975
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Yep. I saw again it in the theater after I heard that a TTT teaser was attached.
Yep. I saw again it in the theater after I heard that a TTT teaser was attached.
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There ya go. I wasn't making that up in my head.
There ya go. I wasn't making that up in my head.
DinoDB1975
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Sorry I'm quoting out of order, I put myself on a self-imposed moratorium on this thread until I had watched the film myself, but I think that Smaug's death occurs in the second film as well...and the title "The Desolation of Smaug" will have a dual meaning.
Sorry I'm quoting out of order, I put myself on a self-imposed moratorium on this thread until I had watched the film myself, but I think that Smaug's death occurs in the second film as well...and the title "The Desolation of Smaug" will have a dual meaning.
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Ok, I saw it on Saturday and thought it was excellent (easily in the same league as LOTR). I loved the pacing and the inclusion of material from the Appendicies (which was what I was looking forward to the most).
I did have a couple of minor issues:
- I liked Azog but couldn't ignore the CGI and thought that he kind of looked like a video game character.
- Seeing The Witch-King was awesome..........but what the hell was all the talk during The White Council scene about about where he was buried etc... I was under the impression that The Rings of power gave the kings of men immortality until they eventually faded into wraiths. Was this just something PJ fudged to make it fit into the story better or did I miss something in my reading?
Ok, I saw it on Saturday and thought it was excellent (easily in the same league as LOTR). I loved the pacing and the inclusion of material from the Appendicies (which was what I was looking forward to the most).
I did have a couple of minor issues:
- I liked Azog but couldn't ignore the CGI and thought that he kind of looked like a video game character.
- Seeing The Witch-King was awesome..........but what the hell was all the talk during The White Council scene about about where he was buried etc... I was under the impression that The Rings of power gave the kings of men immortality until they eventually faded into wraiths. Was this just something PJ fudged to make it fit into the story better or did I miss something in my reading?
JonnyReedie
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That bothered me too. I noticed that all enemies that had close ups were CGI. must be because of the 48fps - I read that it shows up every detail in wigs and prosthetics and it's incredibly difficult to mask.
Azog especially- he's not complicated compared to other prosthetic monsters PJ featured in the past.
Ok, I saw it on Saturday and thought it was excellent (easily in the same league as LOTR). I loved the pacing and the inclusion of material from the Appendicies (which was what I was looking forward to the most).
I did have a couple of minor issues:
- I liked Azog but couldn't ignore the CGI and thought that he kind of looked like a video game character.
- Seeing The Witch-King was awesome..........but what the hell was all the talk during The White Council scene about about where he was buried etc... I was under the impression that The Rings of power gave the kings of men immortality until they eventually faded into wraiths. Was this just something PJ fudged to make it fit into the story better or did I miss something in my reading?
That bothered me too. I noticed that all enemies that had close ups were CGI. must be because of the 48fps - I read that it shows up every detail in wigs and prosthetics and it's incredibly difficult to mask.
Azog especially- he's not complicated compared to other prosthetic monsters PJ featured in the past.
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I think it was totally made up by PJ to add to the story....I dont even remember anything like that from Unfinished tales or the other books full of Tolkiens notes...
- Seeing The Witch-King was awesome..........but what the hell was all the talk during The White Council scene about about where he was buried etc... I was under the impression that The Rings of power gave the kings of men immortality until they eventually faded into wraiths. Was this just something PJ fudged to make it fit into the story better or did I miss something in my reading?
I think it was totally made up by PJ to add to the story....I dont even remember anything like that from Unfinished tales or the other books full of Tolkiens notes...
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Exactly.
Thanks, at least I know I'm not crazy. (well not too crazy)
Exactly.
Thanks, at least I know I'm not crazy. (well not too crazy
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But you gotta admit whatever changes PJ did from the original Tolkien storyline he did extremely well...I hated that this film ended
Exactly.
Thanks, at least I know I'm not crazy. (well not too crazy
But you gotta admit whatever changes PJ did from the original Tolkien storyline he did extremely well...I hated that this film ended
Reinhardt
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I enjoyed Azog, but I hope either Jackson kills him off soon, or makes him part of the bigger story, instead of it just being about a revenge story between Thorin and him. I felt a lot of time was dedicated to them, which really didn't do much for the story as a whole. Not entirely sure why Jackson felt that we needed an antagonist to Thorin. Felt way too similar to the character of Lurtz in Fellowhip.
Secondly, regarding Radagast, for all the Tolkien experts, was he goofy like that in the appendices/books? I don't really remember anything more than a line or 2 about him, but I never read any of the appendices.
I enjoyed Azog, but I hope either Jackson kills him off soon, or makes him part of the bigger story, instead of it just being about a revenge story between Thorin and him. I felt a lot of time was dedicated to them, which really didn't do much for the story as a whole. Not entirely sure why Jackson felt that we needed an antagonist to Thorin. Felt way too similar to the character of Lurtz in Fellowhip.
Secondly, regarding Radagast, for all the Tolkien experts, was he goofy like that in the appendices/books? I don't really remember anything more than a line or 2 about him, but I never read any of the appendices.
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A little goofy...but not as much..he was suspicious of all the sounds he heard paying attention to the trees blowing and birds and of course the sounds of the forrest worrying about spies, always pausing to hear things when he was talking to Gandalf
A little goofy...but not as much..he was suspicious of all the sounds he heard paying attention to the trees blowing and birds and of course the sounds of the forrest worrying about spies, always pausing to hear things when he was talking to Gandalf
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I don't remember a whole lot about Radagast in the books other than in FOTR when Saruman uses him to find Gandalf and send him to Orthanc. If I recall correctly, Saruman's words regarding Radagast were: "Radagast bird-tamer, Radagast the fool."
I don't remember a whole lot about Radagast in the books other than in FOTR when Saruman uses him to find Gandalf and send him to Orthanc. If I recall correctly, Saruman's words regarding Radagast were: "Radagast bird-tamer, Radagast the fool."
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Re: The Official "The Hobbit" movie thread *SPOILERS*
Pretty much. There isn't a ton out there on him sadly.
Pretty much. There isn't a ton out there on him sadly.
DinoDB1975
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Yep, Radagast was out there. What do you expect from a tree hugger?
My only nitpick in the movie was the Goblin King's voice. He sounded like a librarian / historian.
Yep, Radagast was out there. What do you expect from a tree hugger?
My only nitpick in the movie was the Goblin King's voice. He sounded like a librarian / historian.
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From LotR, Saruman didn't regard him very highly.
From LotR, Saruman didn't regard him very highly.
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