The Last of Us - PS3 & PS4 (Remastered)
No one's in denial about anything. If the creators of TLOU were pandering to the worst elements of feminism, then they certainly didn't show it in the game. As for the ending, Naughty Dog's interpretation made sense. While TLOU is a story on survival, it's also a coming of age story, in the sense that Ellie is able to question Joel, and the world around her in order to contemplate her own sense of morality. We shouldn't ignore the fact, that by saving Ellie, Joel practically damned the world to the infected, and robbed her of her choice in the matter. While I think all of us can agree that we would've made the same decision in his shoes, it goes without saying, that in any great literature, there has to be a sense of inflection for the consequences of the decisions made by the protagonist. And if that happens to be at the cost of Joel's and Ellie's relationship in the ending scene, then so be it.
I know that I watched the vid, but listening to Druckmann explain it it's obvious there's more to that ending. He saids what it is, and even Gaspar said it was a bunch of crap. The 3rd part is literally titled a feminist ending
I never said he was trying to pander to the worst kind of feminism, don't know where you got that from.
If you and the minions are saying what Gaspar was saying about Druckmann using SJW for PR then that's one thing, but if you're trying to say that after the videos and interviews I posted, that Druckmann never claimed to interject any feminism into the gam then yea, denial
In fact, there's really no need to debate, this isn't something I made up, it came straight from Druckmann, you either believe him or not but that's on him not me. He claims to have been inspired by feminist books, he said he had a agenda to create a female character, one his daughter could look up to and not overly sexualize, he brought the whole Ellie being independent and dropping Joel (man) to find her own way, he admits to being inspired by Anita Sarkeesian's Vids etc...
Anyway I think if you love this game, but hate feminism (not speaking you directly here), then that's why I can clearly see someone trying to convince themselves that Pturtle made all this up
The game is great, one of the best games of all time, but according to Druckmann he had an agenda with this game, and so what if he did? didn't hurt the quality one bit.
That's all Folks, no need to go in circles here, you either think Druckmann is lying or you don't, I don't see why he would but, Gaspar does, that's really it.
People should be debating whether Druckmann is being honest or not. Not whether I pulled this out my ass or not
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and believe me, TLoU's world is really gone to ****. The fact that it's not the infected that are the biggest problem but the people goes to show, and Joel got screwed over in the early hours of infection. It's like Bill said "You know, as bad as those things are, at least they're predictable. It's the normal people that scare me."
