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Super Freak
I dug it.
Good premiere! Love that alternate Iris, also Henry and Nora had me in tears!
They never explained why Joe was such a mess in the alternate timeline. He was just drunk who hates his job for the sake of making him different
I think it was more to show the influence that Barry had on him
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Spoiler:The reason Barry wanted to reset the timeline again is because he was forgetting the old timeline? And would he lose the speed powers, because that wasn’t clear. All Thawn said was that Barry would eventually forget he was Flash, but that doesn’t necessarily mean he’d lose his powers, does it? But let’s say worst case scenario was that he loses his powers and loses his memories of the original timeline, and the new timeline is “cemented” like Thawn said—so what? Isn’t having his parents back what Barry wanted all along? I mean, maybe if Iris was dead in this timeline, or maybe his parents end up dead anyway, I can understand him wanting to reset everything again. But he only wants to reset because he wants to keep his old memories and keep his powers, and he’s willing to kill his mother for it?
So I don’t think I quite understand…
Spoiler:The reason Barry wanted to reset the timeline again is because he was forgetting the old timeline? And would he lose the speed powers, because that wasn’t clear. All Thawn said was that Barry would eventually forget he was Flash, but that doesn’t necessarily mean he’d lose his powers, does it? But let’s say worst case scenario was that he loses his powers and loses his memories of the original timeline, and the new timeline is “cemented” like Thawn said—so what? Isn’t having his parents back what Barry wanted all along? I mean, maybe if Iris was dead in this timeline, or maybe his parents end up dead anyway, I can understand him wanting to reset everything again. But he only wants to reset because he wants to keep his old memories and keep his powers, and he’s willing to kill his mother for it?
Otherwise I enjoyed the episode. Loved Cisco and Caitlin (“You know, you would be a great candidate for Lasik”) Curious as to what they will do for the rest of the season, trying to set everything straight again.
Spoiler:Wally wasn't healing from his mortal wound and Barry was losing his powers which meant there would be no one left to protect the city(or the world). Plus Joe was an alcoholic.
Spoiler:Wally wasn't healing from his mortal wound and Barry was losing his powers which meant there would be no one left to protect the city(or the world). Plus Joe was an alcoholic.
He seemed very weak by the end of the episode. Maybe he was dying?
He had a BTTF/Butterfly Effect tonic going on. And of course, you never trust a villain.
Spoiler:Wally wasn't healing from his mortal wound and Barry was losing his powers which meant there would be no one left to protect the city(or the world). Plus Joe was an alcoholic.
Spoiler:Wally just wasn't "speed" healing. He could have made a full recovery for all we know. They should have just killed him to really give Barry reason to reset time. As far as Joe being an alcoholic, they were starting to show new Barry having a positive effect on Joe.
Spoiler:How did Joe manage shoot a speedster in the back? Didn't Flash catch a bullet behind his head in an episode?
As for Wally, I guess he should've died so it would've been clearer why Barry needed to change things back but it made sense to me.
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