Fassneto would've sold better as far as I'm concerned that's a fact.
People want it. It's all about supply and demand. The demand is there but not the supply. In regards to why bother with X-Men when they have Star Wars and avengers well why bother with anything else then?
People want variety not the same old and X-Men is a popular franchise that remains untapped, if tapped they'd sell. Wolverine got over 4000 likes on their Facebook page that's more than any other in a long time
Don't forget the various X-Men statues from Sideshow Collectibles, koto ect
X-Men is among the top of their best selling
What are you basing that opinion on? The xmen statues being the great seller part?
And there are huge differences even if the statues where/are great movers (which is hit and miss at best) the statues are comic based mostly. 99%. And there are no movie based. So there are no licensing issues. They are all thru marvel, with no actors or movie studio involved. And that is where this whole issue diverges from every other property and past situation. I don't understand why that's not getting understood.
With statues they produce usually 1000-2000. Sometimes less. Mostly less. It's incredibly rare to get 2500 or more. There is no tooling involved. You get a mold and paint. The licensing issue is not there. They aquire the license from marvel with min hassel and complexity. When it's done (the prototype) they go thru one company for approval. Marvel comics.
With a hot toys figure they have to get likeness rights from the actor. In comparison-that does not happen with those statues u mentioned..nor does it happen with Thor hot toys or iron man or Cap or spidey or predator or Star Wars or transformers or GI joe. After that they have to also get the studio approval. And usually with a studio the parent company does not also operate a studio in direct competiotion (like with GI joe hasbro does not have it's own studio...or with Thor the studio is the parent company). So that's a unique situation. Then they also have to get the lic from marvel(usually done in the reverse order...marvel first, fox next, then actors). With statues two of those steps are not required. Less man hours. Less licensing costs. Less production costs.
And also, your right about supply and demand. That's what drives the market. But it doesn't mean just because a few hundred people on a couple forums say they would love the figure doesn't mean that's reflective of the whole, nor does it mean once that figure is made all those people will buy. It also does not mean you can get the rights and approvals to make it.
Hot toys is a business. By most of the arguments I'm going against if they where true it would mean both I am wrong/lieing as is hot toys and they made a first class Charles just to piss everyone off and wasted tons of money in making it even though they intentionally didn't plan to make anything other then wolverine. Is that really what you think?
As for the freak that is disputing what I said about what you said about star spangled cap...so basically what you said about cap....yes I saw everything else you said. But I was addressing that specifically. And your response is basically well I said other stuff too. Lol
If you don't believe me great. Feel free to disprove anything I have said. Use those internet connections to get some inside info. And prove me wrong. Won't happen, but I'd love to see you get the same info from someone else. You can get them. Even the production numbers. Tax returns are a place. Investor packets. Message me and I'll even give you document titles and where to get the request forms. Theres a bunch of other ways to get the info.
As for why no one else states what I have. Why do you think that is? Do you think no one in the whole world knows it? Like everything just kinda magically happens and no one knows? Or is it that they say what they know and end up arguing what they know to be true with guys who's whole argument is not based on work product or direct knowledge but reading other peoples opinions based on buying and collecting and pressers and opinion. And when they explain how things actually work that doesn't match how some guy decieded it works without any actual in site into production and licensing and how complicated it is but based completly on his own collecting. And the guy who works in the industry opts not to risk his future work or his family business by breaking a non compete or non disclose he's called a liar, or handing out misinfo....even though the one making those claims has ZERO true insite and no industry experience. Somehow when someone states something, even if it's an opinion, that is not in line with his, it's misinfo. Even though his info is based on opinion. Can't imagine why no industry folks would hop right up and volunteer for that.
As for my remarks about why I'm talking at all(the loudest most posts comment)...that was a generalization based on my views as a whole. I also posted about how the relationship between hot toys and sideshow worked a few months back...to mostly the same people...and I got lots of your new here and wait till you have been around, and you are obviously new and don't understand and what not comments. And people sided with mostly the folks that had been around the longest with the most posts. Even though they had zero actual experience behind the scenes with sideshow or hot toys.
And to be clear-I've never said I think fasseneto would not sell. Nor have I said I wouldn't buy it. Or support it. My personnel opinions and collecting are not what have argued. I've put forward the business side based on what I know. How I know it is secondary. It's not what I want, or don't want, or think will or won't happen. It's HOW things happen. If you really want to know how it works or talk about why sideshow or hot toys or hasbro or Mattel or funko do business then you have to not look at it from a fans point of view, and not from a collectors. But as a business. Because no matter what, if these people can't buy the licenses and pay the bills and employees and sculpters and tool and die and machinist and so on they can not make products.
And when you make grand sweeping declarations about why a company does this or that....make sure if it's an opinion you say that. And if it's based on nothing more then standard forum reading and your own shopping habits you think twice about calling someone else a liar when you have Richard other then your own opinion. Your opinion doesn't make someone else's opinion wrong, or misinfo.
Passing off misinformation as fact does nobody any good. Here's good ole Spangled Cap under retail at Sideshow this week for $194. They've used their entire bag of tricks - double award, triple awards, etc - and the EX is still there collecting dust.
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