Star Wars: The Last Jedi (Dec 15th, 2017)

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Re: Star Wars: The Last Jedi SPOILER DISCUSSION THREAD

Let's just be honest and say it how it is, in that anything outside of the OT isn't canon because the OT is what many of us grew up with, so it's got that nostalgia factor. :lol

For me the OT grew with the novels, and lasted through 1979 with Brian Daley's Han Solo trilogy, through L. Neil Smith's Lando trilogy, and the novels that went up until the late 1990s, and maybe beyond.

They felt true to the universe and the characters. And as they progressed into the future beyond the films they largely felt like a seamless extension. The stories honoured a tradition, and felt right. They were as good as having films

But in print there are no ageing actors or the concerns of real world production.

As the years passed beyond 1983 it seamed less and less likely that Lucas would realise his dream. Then The Phantom Menace happened. :(

Then the Sequels kill off Han and Luke, and we never did get to see all those printed adventures in between; the family Han and Leia had; Thrawn and the Remnant; and all those star hopping quests. But at least they still survive, even though Disney have consigned them to non-canonical 'Legends'.

What we have now is Star Wars: The Next Generation, because the films were delayed until it was too late to do anything else. Hence, a large anti-climax if you were around when Lucas spoke of nine films.

By contrast, Rogue One was a near perfect film. If only they hadn't changed the Stormtrooper armour, or stolen the ending from These Final Hours. :horror




You can pick and choose your own canon, and the Sequels won't be part of mine because I already have a head full of better stories. Better leave Rey, Finn, Donald Ducktroopers and Porgs to the kids.


Then there's the Han Solo movie, and the question of how well it will succeed in capturing the past for the present.
 
This is a fair comparison. I did feel that this had some RO elements in allowing many of its characters to have darker than usual sides.

Yes, indeed.


Oh and there will be a scene with no sound at all.. but it is jawdropping, and everybody is so silent that you will hear if there's a needle drop.
 
Just got back from seeing this. It had some cool moments, but it felt way too long. Luke was a joke.

Overall I didn't like it, which is a shame because I really wanted to.
 
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It’s interesting to hear the negatives about this film, and we still have one more film to go. What will the fans do
 
I for one am very thankful for the spoilers. They confirmed all my suspicions that I've had from day one. There is no plan. There is no back story. There is no arc. They are literally throwing crap at the wall and seeing what sticks, all in an attempt to make the hip happening new kids seem cool an sweep the history of the franchise under the rug.

"That Poochie is one outrageous dude!!"

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TO THE EXTREME!!!
 
So snoke ended up being

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SNIKTs avatar is so much more pathetic now HAHAHAHAHA :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol

What an Auteur character :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol
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So snoke ended up being

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SNIKTs avatar is so much more pathetic now HAHAHAHAHA :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol

What an Auteur character :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol
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Re: Star Wars: The Last Jedi SPOILER DISCUSSION THREAD

God Damn, that was awesome!
 
she actually really loved it. it just has no story. everything ends exactly the same as the beginning.
 
Star Wars: The Last Jedi SPOILER DISCUSSION THREAD

Alright, going to try to sum up my feelings and the movie.

Serious major spoilers:

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Re: Star Wars: The Last Jedi SPOILER DISCUSSION THREAD

Don't forget about TFA being hated for being too much like ANH/the OT.

Like I say: nobody hates SW more than die hard fans of SW.

To be fair, for me there's SW... and then there's "SW."* (*SW = classic trilogy, SW = everything else)

I like the "SW" insomuch as we get new SW merchandise (and yeah, the occasional visual or moment that kinda feels like it could have been in the classic trilogy.) No RO - no HT Tarkin. No TFA - no HT R2.

"GB" doesn't stop me from enjoying GB - and there's no way Blitzway would have done the 1984 guys in 1/6 without "GB" being made.
 
Re: Star Wars: The Last Jedi SPOILER DISCUSSION THREAD

Just back from my first viewing and i have mixed feelings... to say the least. Will read thru the first 5 pages of comments now but i'll just put one thing out the way that, i strongly believe, really detracts from the movie. Too. Much. Humor. I get Star Wars is also about humor, and morked in some places, but it killed most (if not all) dramatic scenes to me and led to a unbalanced movie in the end. Just to name a few: MAJOR SPOILERS!

- Most of Yoda's interaction with Luke
- Lightsaber hilt hitting Rey's head when Snoke "forced" it back
- Fimm/Phasma comments during face off
- Luke "dusting" is shoulder after First Order blasting him with all they got

It seems to me "subtle" is missing from hollywood vocabulary these days.
 
Just finished watching and WOW.

I think this is possibly THE best SW movie after Empire. I’m still soaking and playing it back in the back of my head - the action scenes, character development and seeing Luke back etc. Damn, I think this might even be better than Empire if I may be so bold :panic:
 
So did anyone ever bring balance to the force? And why did Disney take out the 20th Century Fox opening for episodes 1-3, and 5, 6? I watched Empire last night and was like what happened to the intro? I know Disney has to control everything but now they're really messing with my childhood!
 
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