Zack and Miri Make a Porno

[The Mike]

The Jersey is on its way to me!

 

[McHavyck]

The Jersey is on its way to me!

gotta get me one of those for sure!

 

[Sick Boy 82]

Hell yeah, gonna order one today!!!

 

[Kabukiman]

The MPAA sucks... Just shows how prudish this country is. Overseas, sex doesn't have this huge taboo placed on it. Here, we can blow someone's head up in a movie... drive a car off a cliff into a pile of infants.. but don't you dare show a couple having sex!

It's not the sex... really. It's something else, but I have no idea what.

If you've seen Orgazmo (NC-17 with 2.5 seconds of nudity) and Boogie Nights (which somehow gets by with an R) you know what I'm talking about. If somebody can explain to me how that works, please do so.

 

[Sick Boy 82]

It is the sex, that's why the MPAA pulled the funny teaser about all the sex stuff. I am glad that they let them do the Donkey Show in "Clerks 2", but sex between 2 people is just WRONG!!

 

[Kabukiman]

It is the sex, that's why the MPAA pulled the funny teaser about all the sex stuff.

That's the excuse they're giving, but I'm sure it's not the reason. There are plenty of other movies with more sex that get R's and plenty of movies with less that get NC-17.

 

[Sick Boy 82]

Well, like I said, watch the movie, "This Film Is Not Yet Rated" and see whats-what. Those people are super right-wing evangelists ^^^^-tards!

Even Roger Ebert argued that the system places too much emphasis on not showing sex while allowing the portrayal of massive amounts of gruesome violence.

 

[Kabukiman]

I do want to see "This Film Is Not Yet Rated" I'm not sure why I haven't yet.

When you compare a movie like Orgazmo to a movie like Boogie Nights, it's pretty clear it's not just about sex. Here are some thoughts from Lloyd Kaufman on the subject:

Recently Troma fan, Phil Knittel, asked Lloyd these questions about the MPAA Rating Board for a paper on film censorship:

1. Do you feel that the MPAA makes decisions based on taste?

2. You have two daughters. Do you, as a parent, feel that somebody else should rate films
so that parents can decide what is appropriate for their children?

3. How has leaving your films unrated affected your distribution in theaters and on home video?

4. Do you have any suggestions for a better system of film rating?
Or do you feel the system should be eliminated altogether?

Lloyd Kaufman’s opinions:

1. The MPAA is controlled by the giant media conglomerates. There is a double standard regarding how movies are rated which hurts the independent movies economic chances. Eg: Disney’s Scary Movie gets an R rating with a ^^^^^ going through someone’s head and with male ejaculant spewing gobs on a female,but Troma is forced to cut out a shot of me dressed in a suit and tie eating a Taco in Terror Firmer….

2. The MPAA ratings do not work…due to the double standard…parents get mislead and therefore,following the MPAA ratings, disastrously bring ten year old kiddies to truly violent movies with PG-13 or R ratings..Parents should start a class action lawsuit against the MPAA for deliberately misleading them and causing their kids to be traumatized…

A reenactment of the MPAA Rating Board
picking apart a film of an independent company

3. It is irrelevant…Troma is economically blacklisted no matter what we present to the cartel that controls the world of art and commerce. Troma could release a G-rated StarWars or Gone With the Wind and the main stream movie critics and the Blockbusters (owned by cartel member Viacom) would still economically blacklist us..Just ask GE/NBC’s Gene Shallit or DISNEY/ABC’s Joel Siegal; their policy is not to review any Troma movie no matter what it is…Ebert (also owned by Disney) does the same..but our fans love us for taking risks and providing movies with some substance. So Troma continues into its 29th year!!!!!!

4. Eliminate the MPAA rating system as it currently stands…it is useless,misleading,economically abusive of smaller companies (we have to pay to have our movies rated) and is one of the main reasons many indies are bankrupt…HBO seems to agree with me that the rating of MPAA are corrupt and misleading. HBO, for example supplies their own info and they are part of one of the devil worshiping conglomerates who control the MPAA…Kill it….Malcom McClaren said you must destroy in order to create…He was right on!

 

[McHavyck]

I do want to see "This Film Is Not Yet Rated" I'm not sure why I haven't yet.

When you compare a movie like Orgazmo to a movie like Boogie Nights, it's pretty clear it's not just about sex. Here are some thoughts from Lloyd Kaufman on the subject:

it was very good, although they could have spent a little less time focusing on the two female P.I.'s they hired to find out who was on the rating board.

it raised a lot of good questions about how Jack Valenti ran things and like Sick-Boy said, how the ultra conservatives ultimarely decide what films get rated.

i caught it on IFC.

 

[Darklord Dave]

Lloyd Kaufman isn't exactly an expert. Troma films aren't reviewed because reviewers know they are bad. I've seen lots of Troma films - they all are truly horrible.

But it is true that the MPAA has a double standard. But so do most parents. Ask a parent which they'd rather explain to their child - an eye being gouged out or a man and a woman doin' it. I'm betting most parents would choose the eye gouge - "don't do that deary - it will hurt and you'll go blind". (Of course most parents would use the same explanation for the other thing too, especially for their daughters.)

 

[Kabukiman]

Lloyd Kaufman isn't exactly an expert. Troma films aren't reviewed because reviewers know they are bad. I've seen lots of Troma films - they all are truly horrible.

The man has been running an independent movie studio for the past 34 years. You may not like his movies, but you have to admit the guy must know a thing or two.

 

[Ktjn]

but sex between 2 people is just WRONG!!

It can be,

https://www.tmz.com/2008/06/25/mini-m...ert-your-eyes/

 

[Darklord Dave]

The man has been running an independent movie studio for the past 34 years. You may not like his movies, but you have to admit the guy must know a thing or two.

ah, sorry - I can see you're a fan. And yes he knows the same thing that PT Barnum knew and exploited as much as possible.






There's a sucker born every minute.

 

[The Mike]

Got my Jersey today. Its a little thinner than I'd hoped but I like it:

Here it is modeled by my wife:

She has already claimed it as a nightshirt.

 

[McHavyck]

Got my Jersey today. Its a little thinner than I'd hoped but I like it:

Here it is modeled by my wife:

and this is the woman that bought you a 360?!?
she's a keeper, my friend!



and the jersey kicks ass too!

 

[Sick Boy 82]

Nice!! Can't wait for mine now!!!!

 

[The Mike]

and this is the woman that bought you a 360?!?
she's a keeper, my friend!



and the jersey kicks ass too!

Yeah, I think I'll keep her around.

 

[MadCow]

Got my Jersey today. Its a little thinner than I'd hoped but I like it:

HOLY CRAP I NEED THAT! Looks like i'm making a trip to JSB's Secret Stash at lunch tomorrow...

 

[The Mike]

Smith Wins Appeal for Porno's R Rating
Source: The Associated Press August 5, 2008

Director Kevin Smith has won an appeal to lower the adults-only NC-17 rating for his comedy Zack and Miri Make a Porno, to an R rating.

Motion Picture Association of America spokeswoman Elizabeth Kaltman said Tuesday the rating was revised after the group's appeals board viewed the movie.

The NC-17 rating would have prohibited anyone younger than 17 from seeing the movie. With an R rating, those under 17 can see it in the company of an adult.

In the October 31st release, Zack (Seth Rogen) and Miri (Elizabeth Banks) are two lifelong friends who are deep in debt and enlist the help of their friends to make a porno movie for some quick cash. But as everybody starts "doing" everybody, Zack and Miri realize that they may have more feelings for each other than they previously thought. Craig Robinson, Traci Lords, Katie Morgan, Ricky Mabe, Jeff Anderson and Jason Mewes co-star.

I didn't realize that some actual Porn Stars were trying to make legit films with this one...

 

[wofford29]

Trailer. Looks hilarious...

https://www.askmen.com/video/2008_apr/apr02.html