English Premier League EPL Thread

[VASith]

What a glorious glorious afternoon. Arsenal are back in the FA final yet again, and United lose yet again. Perfect weekend!

 

[VASith]

Going to be interesting how United does in their FA cup game tomorrow.

Oh wait

Glory glory plastic fans.

 

[The Tuggernaut]

Funny how Arsehole fans always crawl out of their caves when United lose. Pathetic, but funny.

 

[thecorsair]

Funny how Arsehole fans always crawl out of their caves when United lose. Pathetic, but funny.

Indeed. If we were to believe them United lost 25-0 yesterday and were way behind the Gooners in the table.

In reality a solitary point seperates the sides and they have the exact same number of losses so if this United team is really so bad it doesn't really say a lot for Arsenal.

Their performance against Chelsea was only lacking in end product and after the spineless performance in the same fixture last season it was nice to see United making Mourinho's side work for their points. LVG clearly has some more work to do to get his side to their level but they aren't a million miles away and there's no shame in losing after a performance like that.

Chelsea are always difficult to break down even when they're not playing their best and it's that ability to grind out results that is a major factor why they're about to become champions. Nobody wins the title by playing pretty football in every game.

 

[The Tuggernaut]

Indeed. If we were to believe them United lost 25-0 yesterday and were way behind the Gooners in the table.

In reality a solitary point seperates the sides and they have the exact same number of losses so if this United team is really so bad it doesn't really say a lot for Arsenal.

Their performance against Chelsea was only lacking in end product and after the spineless performance in the same fixture last season it was nice to see United making Mourinho's side work for their points. LVG clearly has some more work to do to get his side to their level but they aren't a million miles away and there's no shame in losing after a performance like that.

Chelsea are always difficult to break down even when they're not playing their best and it's that ability to grind out results that is a major factor why they're about to become champions. Nobody wins the title by playing pretty football in every game.

Considering the fact that it's LVG's first season, the number of injuries United have had and the fact we're only a point behind them, it really shows how **** Arsenal are. We'll be winning the league for seasons to come whilst they pretend to be contenders.

 

[thecorsair]

Considering the fact that it's LVG's first season, the number of injuries United have had and the fact we're only a point behind them, it really shows how **** Arsenal are. We'll be winning the league for seasons to come whilst they pretend to be contenders.

Last year when they won their first trophy in the best part of a decade some Arsenal fans seemed more intrested in mocking what Moyes was doing to United than celebrating their own team's cup win

 

[VASith]

Last year when they won their first trophy in the best part of a decade some Arsenal fans seemed more intrested in mocking what Moyes was doing to United than celebrating their own team's cup win

If you read my posts from last year I actually though Moyes was given a raw deal. I thought he should have been given at least another year...he was handed a garbage team and had his hands tied with transfers.

And I'm pretty sure it was united fans who threatened to kill his family and pulled the stunt with the airplane, not Arsenal fans.

I have issues with "fans" who only like their team when they are winning. To me that's not a true fan, hence the plastic fan remarks.

 

[VASith]

And corsair, in between making jokes about the kids who died at Hillsboro, you were screaming and crying for
Moyes to be fired.

 

[thecorsair]

And corsair, in between making jokes about the kids who died at Hillsboro, you were screaming and crying for
Moyes to be fired.

I said a couple of things that I regretted in the heat of the moment when several people were attacking me in a manner I felt went beyond the usual banter between rival fans.

I made no reference to dying kids.

I have already apologised for that incident but I'll do so again in case you missed it,

I apologise unreservedly to anyone who was offended. It was a wrong call at the time and I should have backed out of the argument instead of lashing out.

Now let it go.

I did want Moyes fired but nothing more than that. Most United fans never wanted him in the first place. Results this season have proven beyond all doubt he wasn't the right man for the job.

If we counted the number of times some ( not all ) Gooners had called for Wenger's head you'd have had more managers than Chelsea and City in the last decade.

 

[thecorsair]

If you read my posts from last year I actually though Moyes was given a raw deal. I thought he should have been given at least another year...he was handed a garbage team and had his hands tied with transfers.

And I'm pretty sure it was united fans who threatened to kill his family and pulled the stunt with the airplane, not Arsenal fans.

I have issues with "fans" who only like their team when they are winning. To me that's not a true fan, hence the plastic fan remarks.

He wasn't hard done by, he was too small time for a club of United's stature.

Moyes inherited a squad that won the league by 11 points the previous year and somehow managed to miss out on European football entirely.

After years of being bullied and intimidated into a state where they would have run through fire to get a result the players were suddenly faced with a career loser who declared Liverpool and City the favorites in pre-match interviews.

How could any player respect someone who says the equivalent of "My lads are ****, the opposition will win easily" to the press before every game and then followed it up with "I thought we played quite well" regardless of the result and performance?

It's no wonder most of the squad went on strike and forced the board's hand.

United had the money but nobody decent wanted to sign for such a non entity.

A few morons making idle threats don't represent the entire support. All teams have that type of fan amongst their numbers, did you miss this?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Pb4zoCUC_c

If you have issues with casual fans, that's your problem, you can go on my ignore list and I'll no longer have to view your trolling.

 

[The Tuggernaut]

Oh, the irony of an Arsenal fan talking about other fans. Is it currently #WengerOut or #WengerIn this month? You lot are so fickle, it's difficult to judge.

 

[VASith]

Oh, the irony of an Arsenal fan talking about other fans. Is it currently #WengerOut or #WengerIn this month? You lot are so fickle, it's difficult to judge.

I know. We must be the only fans who complain about our coach.

 

[The Tuggernaut]

Skills Depay the bills.

This bloke will tear it up next season. Unlucky, Liverpool.

 

[Python]

John Carver thinks he's the best coach in the league, as a Newcastle United fan, this made me almost explode laughing..

BBC Sport - Newcastle's John Carver: I'm the best coach in the Premier League

 

[LIBBY1957DOG]

after tonights result swansea beating le arse
Would be hilarious if united get 3rd place ,after Arsenal having had their best season in the league in a while still somehow manage to come 4th! :

 

[LIBBY1957DOG]

Robin Friday ,no not a scouse holiday lol ,just joking ,
never heard of him until today ,sounds like a great footballer ,but not sure id want to live next door to him ,making a film about him ,should be a good watch
Life of Cardiff City legend Robin Friday to be made into film starring Hunger Games actor - Wales Online

Robin Friday's career lasted only four years. He never played for England and he never played in the top tier of English football. But for those who saw him play he was the greatest player ever to walk the Earth. Unfortunately he also had a wild side that even made George Best look tame.

Robin Friday was born in London in 1952. He spent most of his chaotic young life in and out of borstal homes. But it was his god given talent that would eventually make him stand out.

Not much is known about his early footballing career but he first shows up on the radar playing for non-league Hayes in 1972. Early scouting reports of a prodigious talent playing for a non league team were usually disregarded when his age came up, most teams felt that at 20 he was too old to start a professional career.

But that was about to change as Reading drew Hayes in an early round in the FA Cup. The legendry Charlie Hurley was managing Reading at the time and was trying to mastermind their way out of Division Four. And although Reading won the match 4-1, he had seen enough in the talented centre forward to sign him after the match.

Hurley obviously hadn't done a background check on the 21 year old Friday because if he had he might not have signed him. One incident whilst playing for Hayes saw the team start a match with 10 men as Friday hadn't finished down the pub.

He arrived late and after protests from the manager he took to the pitch. By this stage Friday was so intoxicated he could barely stand up. Needless to say the opposition didn't pay him much attention and in typical Friday fashion he scored the winner as Hayes ran out 1-0.

Over the next four years he went on to play 135 games for Reading scoring 55 goals. For those who saw him play during his spell at Reading say they saw the greatest player the world has ever seen.

Friday was blessed with the kind of talent that even professionals can only dream of. There was nothing he couldn't do with a ball. But he was cursed with an insane wild streak. He smoked to excess, he drank to excess and he took drugs like there was no tomorrow. His under achievement was so spectacular because of his antics off the pitch.

Within weeks of signing for Reading he had become a hero to the terraces. And had the local journalists waxing lyrically about his "sheer magic" that had turned an average Division 4 side into an awesome one.

His skill and vision were beyond compare and his 55 goals for Reading are still considered to be amongst the best goals ever seen in English football. Even Welsh referee Clive Thomas couldn't believe his eyes when refereeing Reading in 1976.

Unfortunately you won't be able to YouTube the goal so I'll describe the goal as best as I can. (I wasn't there either but I've read many accounts of it.)

Reading were playing Tranmere in a league match, both teams were cancelling each other out. The Reading goalkeeper threw the ball out to the right full, Gary Peters looked up. Friday was lurking at the corner of the penalty box on the left hand side. The ball was launched in his direction. Friday ran towards the ball and jumped into the air catching the ball on his chest, as he landed he spun around 180 degrees with the ball still on his chest and dropped the ball onto his left foot where he caught the ball on the volley and powered it home into the top corner on the far post.

The crowd were stunned, Reading players, Tranmere players and even the referee could only stop and applaud. Friday ran to the back of the goal to celebrate with the fans and on his way there he saw a police man applauding so he ran right up to him and kissed him!

Clive Thomas talked of the goal after the match. "I've refereed at World Cups, I've seen Pele, George Best and Johan Cryff, this rates as the best goal I've ever seen" When he asked Friday "What are you doing playing at this level? I've never seen anyone score a goal like that" Friday quipped "You should come down here more often, I score goals like that all the time!"

As Friday won Player of the year at Reading and fired them to the clubs first promotion in 50 years in his first full season, managers like Bertie Mee and Bob Paisley had begun to take notice of his mercurial talent. But just as the top teams were taking notice of Friday his wild side began to dominate his life.

His binging on drink and drugs began to get him into trouble. He was a notorious alcoholic and was barred from virtually every bar in Reading as he was a notoriously bad tempered drunk who often did his best fighting naked!

During this period the list of misdemeanors was endless. Hurley tried to calm Friday down and moved him onto a settled street full of pensioners. Friday terrorized them during the day and then played heavy metal through the night. He stole clothes from markets, posed as a train station security guard so he could get free tickets and had a fondness for robbing statues from grave yards.

He used L.S.D. and cocaine in industrial sized amounts. And it was during one of his many drug fueled binges that one of his most famous stories arose. Reading were playing away from home and Friday was literally three sheets to the wind, players talked about him walking around the hotel naked and throwing snooker balls and darts in the games room while naked.

When the team meeting was called just before the team left for the match a disheveled Friday showed up still naked but carrying a swan that he had procured from a nearby lake!

Friday's behavior on the pitch wasn't much better. He drank before games and regularly showed up drunk. He ran over to Police men to kiss them after he scored, he fought with team mates and opponents alike, he kicked players in the face (I'll save that story for later) and then grabbed them by the testicles. His disciplinary record was appalling. And it was only his phenomenal performances that kept him at the club.

But patience was wearing thin at Reading and in 1977 he was sold to Cardiff for a measly £30,000. Scotsman Jimmy Andrews was managing Cardiff at the time and called a press conference to announce the coup of signing Robin Friday for little or nothing. Reading's response was "you'll see."

On his first day in Cardiff, Friday was arrested in the train station after fare dodging. His first action as a Cardiff player was to be bailed from jail by an unhappy Andrews. But it set the tone for the rest of his short Bluebird career.

He was still able to put in performances that to this day make Cardiff fans misty eyed. But he would go missing for days and then show up in a state.

The night before his debut for Cardiff, Friday want on a pub crawl to test the Cardiff nightlife. He was out until five in the morning when he decided it was time to rest up for his debut. So he took a dozen bottles of beer with him to bed. He then went out the next day and scored twice on his debut. While being marked by Bobby Moore.

But in true Friday fashion he then disappeared on another binge. On returning he would score his most famous Cardiff goal where he beat four players and then rounded the keeper. On wheeling away Friday gave the goalkeeper a two fingered salute.

The iconic image (I've used it too) was used on the cover of a single by The Super Furry Animals who wrote a song about Friday called The man don't give a *****k.

His most memorable moment as a Cardiff player came when playing Brighton.

Friday was being marked by a young Irishman called Mark Lawrenson. And was getting frustrated by the close attention he was being given. So he waited for Lawrenson to slide tackle him and as he did Friday turned a kicked him full into the face. Friday was sent off immediately but he wasn't finished there. He broke into the away dressing room and defecated into Lawrenson's bag before disappearing on another binge.

I would be his last match and he never played football again.

And at the age of 25 his short career was over. He only played 20 games for Cardiff where he scored six goals but his time there was enough for Cardiff fans to find a place in their hearts for him. They named him their Cult player of all time in 2006. Reading did too.

He returned to London and worked as an asphalter, but he was never able to control his demons. He went through two acrimonious divorces and lived in squalor until he died in 1990 at the age of 38.

Ultimately, it's hard to gauge whether Robin Friday deserves to be put on a pedestal. His legend grows with each telling and it is tragic that he is a hero for all the wrong reasons to the loaded and fhm generation.

The legendry Stan Bowles who was also a bit of a hellraiser in his day spoke of Friday "There is no doubt in my mind that if someone had taken a chance on him he would have set the top division alight. He could have gone right to the top. He just went off the rails a bit."

There's no doubting Friday's prodigious abilities, and even today if you mention his name to either Reading of Cardiff fans they can tell you stories about him for hours.

Reading coach Maurice Evans once told the forward "What age are you son? If you could just settle down for a few years, you could play for England" Fridays reply "What age are you? I'm half your age but I've lived twice the life you have!"

Sums up Fridays life.

 

[Metatron]

Skills Depay the bills.

This bloke will tear it up next season. Unlucky, Liverpool.

I wouldn't bet on it, the Dutch league is a joke. Players like Kezman and altidore scored goals in holland yet were useless in the premier league! Hope he hits the ground running tho, the more teams fighting at the top can only be good for the game.

 

[The Tuggernaut]

I wouldn't bet on it, the Dutch league is a joke. Players like Kezman and altidore scored goals in holland yet were useless in the premier league! Hope he hits the ground running tho, the more teams fighting at the top can only be good for the game.

It's not as competitive as other European leagues, but for a 21 year old to score 22 goals in 29 games (as a winger no less, not a striker) is pretty damn impressive.

It'll be a big step-up, but I have no doubt he'll be a success.

 

[willocrew]

UEFA needs to reduce EPL's champions league places to just one. Man Utd, arsenal and Man City don't deserve to play champions league football.

 

[LIBBY1957DOG]

yeah well i see your point ,but did chelsea ,liverpool and arsenal deserve to play it last year, or man city for that matter lol