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Empire Online spoke to Evans recently, and the actor said that the threads are "amazing."

"Given the fact that his costume is red, white and blue, and it's tight, and it could be kind of flash and over the top -- and given the fact that the movie takes place in the '40s and '50s -- they've done a really good job of making it look really cool," said Evans. "I think everyone that's going to see it is going to say, 'O.K., well done. Well done. I think they got the costume right. The casting they completely ruined, but the costume they nailed!'"



Interesting, isn't it, that Evans mentions the 1950s as part of the time period when the movie takes place? Cap fought in World War II and went into deep freeze right before the end of the Big One, which last time we checked was prior to 1950. Hmmmm.

"[In the Fantastic Four] … you could move around quite well," continues Evans, who of course played the Human Torch in that series. "This is a little more cumbersome. It doesn't exactly breathe the way the Fantastic Four costume breathed, but it's the way it should be. Any type of World War II uniform would be a little chunky, and I think that's what kind of gives it its character."

The topic of Cap's mighty shield also came up during the interview.

"We've been testing a lot of shields," he says. "Last time I was in London they had six shields and I had to hold each one, see if I was comfortable with each one, see which one we all thought had the right look. The thing is pretty heavy, so I'm not sure I can throw it that far! I'll give it my best shot, but hopefully they'll have some sort of stunt shield when it comes to actually chucking it!"
 
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Let's hope he just doesn't know his history all that well. :lol
 
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Chris Evans is going to be at Comic Con. He's also doing an autograph signing.
 
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Comic con exclusive poster according to Yahoo

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https://movies.yahoo.com/photos/movie-stills/gallery/2755/2010-comiccon-reveals#photo0
 
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Nice! That costume is definitely better than the previous leaked image--more appropriate for the vintage. The other image must be his "modern" costume.
 
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This is going to be terrible. Joe Johnson sucks....:(

The Wolfman is the blandest thing i've seen in a long time....I watched the unrated...to see if the film would get better. It didnt.
 
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I wish I could walk up to Johnson at SDCC and say, "Could you please, please turn down your suck powers for this movie."
 
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I think a scene where Cap gets the round shield from FDR would be awesome in the movie. And the poster looks pretty good to me. I'm trying to be optimistic about the movie.
 
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I don't know if this is the actual shield from the movie but it is from the Comic Con floor for the movie display.
 
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____. F. U. Well you get it.

07.21.2010 the captain america movie won’t be all american-y

The LA Times has an interview today with Joe Johnston, a director who has been in Hollywood for 30 years but has never actually made a movie that didn’t completely suck. Next up for Joe is my beloved Captain America, and he’s not off to the greatest start in the world with this one either.

“He’s a guy that wants to serve his country but he’s not a flag-waver. We’re reinterpretating sort of what the comic book version of Steve Rogers was.”
“…it’s also the idea that this is not about America so much as it is about the spirit of doing the right thing. It’s an international cast and an international story.”

I’m still hopeful because this has a tremendous cast led by Chris Evans and was (reportedly) re-written by the great Joss Whedon, but Johnston had a great cast and writer for ‘the Wolfman’ too, and he took the controls and steered it right into the ground.

How do you make a character who wears the goddamn American flag less patriotic? This thing is going to fail hard.
 
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:gah:
The whole article:
COMIC-CON 2010: 'Captain America' director has different spin on hero: 'He's not a flag-waver'
July 21, 2010 | 5:44 am


The director of "Captain America: The First Avenger," the 2011 summer blockbuster that will coincide with the character's 70th anniversary, says the screen version of the hero will be true to his roots -- up to a certain point.

"We're sort of putting a slightly different spin on Steve Rogers," said Joe Johnston, whose past directing credits include "Jurassic Park III" and "Honey, I Shrunk the Kids." He's a guy that wants to serve his country, but he's not a flag-waver. We're reinterpreting, sort of, what the comic book version of Steve Rogers was."
None of that is surprising, of course -- Christopher Nolan pared away significant parts of the Batman mythology (such as Robin the Boy Wonder and any super-powered villains) that didn't fit his grim take on Gotham City, while Jon Favreau and Robert Downey Jr. manufactured a version of Iron Man that is hard-wired for far more humor than the old-school Marvel Comics character.



Still, Captain America, with his name and history, is a sensitive case. A red-white-and-blue character that dates back to the Franklin Roosevelt era stirs up plenty of civic emotion -- just take a look at the dust-up over the recent change to Wonder Woman's costume. "Wonder Woman" comics are hardly a publishing-world sensation these days but still, for a day or two, the whole world seemed to notice that she put on some pants.

Johnston has been hard at work on the London set of the film but Saturday he'll be making a whirlwind visit to Comic-Con International in San Diego to promote the film. He'll be joined by cast members too, including his charismatic, young title star, Chris Evans, who has shown a sly, wiseguy wit in many of his previous roles. Does that make him an odd fit to play the earnest and somewhat square superhero with the Betsy Ross fashion sensibility? Johnston answered that in his film -- which is set in World War II -- the character will fight the enemies of America but he won't be a stiff, slogan-spouting guy.

"He wants to serve his country, but he's not this sort of jingoistic American flag-waver," Johnston said. "He's just a good person. We make a point of that in the script: Don't change who you are once you go from Steve Rogers to this super-soldier; you have to stay who you are inside, that's really what's important more than your strength and everything. It'll be interesting and fun to put a different spin on the character and one that the fans are really going to appreciate."

Some pundits will pounce on all of this as another desecration of an American touchstone, but how many of them have ever read the books? The character, created by Jack Kirby and Joe Simon, was certainly unconflicted about his country and its mission during the clear-cut days of the 1940s, but it didn't always stay that way. In late 1974, for instance, in the months after President Nixon's resignation, Steve Rogers chucked the star-spangled costume and changed his hero name to Nomad (although, by 1976, Cap and original artist Kirby had the hero in bicentennial mode).

In recent years, Marvel star writer Ed Brubaker's work on the character has been exceptional and never two-dimensional. Brubaker (the son of a Navy intelligence officer who was stationed at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba) came to recognize that Cap is a vessel that can contain whatever any generation or reader wants to put in it. In 2007, Brubaker told the New York Daily News: "What I found is that all the really hard-core left-wing fans want Cap to be standing out on -- and giving speeches on -- the street corner against the George W. Bush administration, and all the really right-wing fans want him to be over in the streets of Baghdad, punching out Saddam Hussein."


Those sort of geopolitical vagaries and fan projections will take on much higher stakes with a $150-million-to-$200-million film. Marvel Studios put itself on the map with two "Iron Man" films that racked up a combined $1.19 billion in box office and almost half of that business ($571 million) was beyond the U.S. and Canada. For Johnston, the imperative is an artistic one, not a commercial one. He wants a character that's more complicated than a flag, and a movie that entertains without borders.

"Yeah, and it's also the idea that this is not about America so much as it is about the spirit of doing the right thing," the director said. "It's an international cast and an international story. It's about what makes America great and what make the rest of the world great too."

-- Geoff Boucher


Boucher will be moderating the "Captain America: The First Avenger" panel at Comic-Con International on Saturday.


What a shock, the libt**ds in Hollyweird doesnt want Rogers to be a "flag waver."
Heaven forbid they try to portray an unabashed patriotic american.
Even though he's friggin Captain America!!
Remember Superman returns ? " Find out if he still believes in Truth, Justice and all that stuff."
Johnson is a profile in directorial mediocrity, I weep for this film.
News flash:You can be a "flag waver" and using Johnsons term do "the right thing"
This is about Marvel and Johnson trying to maximize International box office receipts by toning down the "American Exceptionalism" angle.
 
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Maybe we'll get lucky and fans at Comic Con will beat him to death forcing a reshoot.

This movie will fail and so will the Avengers. Iron Man is the only good Marvel property once again.
 
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Well....he is Marvel's Batman.
 
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