Fantastic Four reboot

[jye4ever]

Did someone say joyless?

What is that thing that fell off him.

 

[DFanatic]

What is that thing that fell off him.

Ha ha, what the heck? I never noticed that before. Did he lose one of his boots?

 

[jye4ever]

I think Clown added that in.

 

[The Clown Prince of Crime]

What is that thing that fell off him.

That's his red underwear, because he's too serious to wear it on the outside

 

[meanstreak]

Josh Trank tweeted this today

" A year ago I had a fantastic version of this. And it would receive great reviews. You'll probably never see it. That's reality though"

https://twitter.com/joshuatrank

 

[Solidus]

I don't really know Josh Trank, but ANYONE who has an avatar and background with Suikoden II is a-ok with me.

 

[jye4ever]

That's his red underwear, because he's too serious to wear it on the outside

Josh Trank tweeted this today

" A year ago I had a fantastic version of this. And it would receive great reviews. You'll probably never see it. That's reality though"

https://twitter.com/joshuatrank

What do you think of this Josh:

"Say what you want about the last two FF movies, at least they seemed to be having fun and had a repoire with one another."

The review I just read said that Reed's beard changes due to the reshoots.

 

[karamazov80]

10.) Green Lantern by Martin Campbell (2011)

Fresh Rating: 25% - Audience Rating: 61%

9.) Superman III by Richard Lester (1983)

Fresh Rating: 24% - Audience Rating: 39%

8.) Spawn by Mark Dippe/Mark A.Z. Dippe (1997)

Fresh Rating: 20% - Audience Rating: 46%

7.) Judge Dredd by Danny Cannon (1995)

Fresh Rating: 15% - Audience Rating: 35%

6.) The Spirit by Frank Miller (II) (2008)

Fresh Rating: 15% - Audience Rating: 30%

5.) Batman and Robin by Joel Schumacher (1997)

Fresh Rating: 13% - Audience Rating: 28%

4.) Jonah Hex by Jimmy Hayward (2010)

Fresh Rating: 13% - Audience Rating: 24%

3.) Elektra by Rob Bowman (2005)

Fresh Rating: 10% - Audience Rating: 47%

2.) Catwoman by Pitof (2004)

Fresh Rating: 10% - Audience Rating: 34%

1.) Superman IV: The Quest for Peace by Sidney J. Furie (1987)

Fresh Rating: 10% - Audience Rating: 30%


Fantastic Four is currently sitting at $10% which ties it as the worst all time comic movie, below Batman and Robin.

Don't forget this gem:

Supergirl (1984) - Rotten Tomatoes

FF is at 9% now, which I guess would make it 2nd worst. I'm sorry, but I just can't believe that this movie is on par with ****ing Quest for Peace. Surely that would be due to changes in expectations regarding movies.

She also lost too much weight. She looked better with a little meat on her bones.

Agreed, she would look better with me on her bones.

I just read about how it's used!

What joyless fun draining ****s!

kara will not be pleased.

 

[Gully Foyle]

Imagine a Reed who was a super genius in the 1960s loving the technological advances and trying to make it leap and bound further, Johnny fully embracing the new era, Ben having the "man out of time" issues and just wanting good ol' Yancy Street which would have changed to something much more trendy and out of his grasp and Sue trying to keep them all together.

You could have cameos from "older" Marvel U folks in flashbacks or even interacting. It would steal a little of Cap's thunder but it'd work, hell Captain America could have been a hero to Ben or Johnny and have that "meeting your heroes" moment too.

You've got the vibe, and you put it very well, Mike.

>Have the "origin" film be set in 1961-69.
>In fact, bookend it with JFK's man-to-the-moon speech and the Apollo 11 landing.
>Show the "secret history" in between those years . . . give it a great period vibe like Cap: First Avenger evoked.
>(If you're going for the Hollywood pitch you tell 'em "Think Mad Men meets the MCU.")
>And have the team warped (like The Red Skull) along with Doom into who-knows-where by a clobbered Time Cube at the finale.
>They ride the DeLorean to 2018 where they experience the fish-out-of-water tropes YET are badass mofos.
>Reed vs. Doom suddenly make Stark, Banner & Pym look like neophytes.
>Huge "game-changers" . . . the world becomes even more dense and bewildering than before . . .

The absolute KEY to the Fantastic Four is their superb Rogue's Gallery. Victor Von Doom is the apex.

He is the axle, the foil, the glue that makes these tales work. With a proper Doom, all is possible:

And then, once Von Doom is established, port him over to the new Netflix:

It could be pure gold.

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[The Clown Prince of Crime]

Josh Trank tweeted this today

" A year ago I had a fantastic version of this. And it would receive great reviews. You'll probably never see it. That's reality though"

https://twitter.com/joshuatrank

He took it down. His PR team was like

Don't forget this gem:

Supergirl*(1984) - Rotten Tomatoes

Wow, I forgot about that movie. Also Swamp Thing, Return of Swamp Thing, and Steel. DC/WB has a really poor record...they're probably calling Josh Tank right now as we speak and they're like...

Is Cage some kind of pimp or something?

 

[twistedfreak]

Yep, this was very expected. All it is turning out to be is just a fantastic mess. Fox was wrong for pursuing a reboot of the FF, and Josh Trank was the wrong guy to bring on board. Some of the cast members, also did not help the cause of this steaming pile of turd.

 

[jrice73]

This was going to be an abomination from the very beginning. But the blame has got to rest squarely on Fox's shoulders, just like it did with Sony and their final three Spider-Man offerings (yeah, I'm counting Raimi's Spider-Man 3 in that hot mess too). FF deserves better and if Spider-Man can strike out three straight times and get picked up by Disney for a reboot, then FF can as well.

 

[The Clown Prince of Crime]

This was going to be an abomination from the very beginning. But the blame has got to rest squarely on Fox's shoulders, just like it did with Sony and their final three Spider-Man offerings (yeah, I'm counting Raimi's Spider-Man 3 in that hot mess too). FF deserves better and if Spider-Man can strike out three straight times and get picked up by Disney for a reboot, then FF can as well.

I blame Josh Tank

 

[Gully Foyle]

Is Cage some kind of pimp or something?

Hey . . . pimpin' ain't easy.

Sometimes you gotta go to Latveria to collect your two benjamins.

This was going to be an abomination from the very beginning. But the blame has got to rest squarely on Fox's shoulders, just like it did with Sony and their final three Spider-Man offerings (yeah, I'm counting Raimi's Spider-Man 3 in that hot mess too). FF deserves better and if Spider-Man can strike out three straight times and get picked up by Disney for a reboot, then FF can as well.

Nuff Said!


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[crows]

This was going to be an abomination from the very beginning. But the blame has got to rest squarely on Fox's shoulders, just like it did with Sony and their final three Spider-Man offerings (yeah, I'm counting Raimi's Spider-Man 3 in that hot mess too). FF deserves better and if Spider-Man can strike out three straight times and get picked up by Disney for a reboot, then FF can as well.

Who knew Disney would be the Jesus savior of geeks and nerds?

 

[Jack D]

Gully, pretty good ideas. If done the ways you laid out, that has the potential to be a very good set of films.

 

[YoNoSe]

Yup, based on all the reports...

Well that's straight up wrong, but what reports are you talking about besides Josh Trank's stoned tweets?

 

[batfan08]

10.) Green Lantern by Martin Campbell (2011)

Fresh Rating: 25% - Audience Rating: 61%

9.) Superman III by Richard Lester (1983)

Fresh Rating: 24% - Audience Rating: 39%

8.) Spawn by Mark Dippe/Mark A.Z. Dippe (1997)

Fresh Rating: 20% - Audience Rating: 46%

7.) Judge Dredd by Danny Cannon (1995)

Fresh Rating: 15% - Audience Rating: 35%

6.) The Spirit by Frank Miller (II) (2008)

Fresh Rating: 15% - Audience Rating: 30%

5.) Batman and Robin by Joel Schumacher (1997)

Fresh Rating: 13% - Audience Rating: 28%

4.) Jonah Hex by Jimmy Hayward (2010)

Fresh Rating: 13% - Audience Rating: 24%

3.) Elektra by Rob Bowman (2005)

Fresh Rating: 10% - Audience Rating: 47%

2.) Catwoman by Pitof (2004)

Fresh Rating: 10% - Audience Rating: 34%

1.) Superman IV: The Quest for Peace by Sidney J. Furie (1987)

Fresh Rating: 10% - Audience Rating: 30%


Fantastic Four is currently sitting at $10% which ties it as the worst all time comic movie, below Batman and Robin.

Of those films, Jonah Hex and The Spirit break my heart. I love both characters, but Jonah hurts more because that was likely his only chance at a film. Westerns are a dying breed, as it is, and to get a Western comic book film...Brolin was awesome casting, too. I don't know, man. I just don't know. At this point, I'd like to see HBO or some channel combine the current anthology fever that's going around with the comic book fever that's spreading, so we could get a DC showcase show or something. Sgt. Rock, Jonah Hex; the House of Mystery. So many awesome fringe characters that will likely never see the light of day.

 

[Gully Foyle]

Gully, pretty good ideas. If done the ways you laid out, that has the potential to be a very good set of films.

Thanks.

But as you say -- it's all potential, isn't it?

Newbs may slag on the Fantastic Four as intrinsically weak source material, but others know the truth:

There's TONS OF POTENTIAL in those tales! They set the freakin' bar!

Doom? The Inhumans? Surfer & Galactus? The Microverse? The Negative Zone? Reed's ginormous johnson? Ben's girthy rockhammer?

JACK "KING" KIRBY??!!??

PUH-LEASE! One must have to TRY to screw that up!


Crazy conspiracy time: Fox Studios intentionally hired Trank to tank the franchise so Disney/Marvel would come knocking with those liquid billions in cash . . . Discuss.

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[The Ween]

I haven't seen this and I'm not going through this thread just in case I do, but from the trailers what has bothered me was the casting. I mean Miles Teller as Reed? Whenever I saw him up close in trailers on the theater screen, all I could see was his zits. And don't get me started on Dr. Doom