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It's possible but I doubt it. Cap is clearly Steve in the movie. Bucky is the Winter Soldier. Anyone who watches the movie has no reason to see Bucky as Cap. The Bucky Cap is just going to go down as one of those event moments in comics. Kinda like Doc Ock as Superior Spidey, Azrael as Bats, John Walker as Cap, etc....
Bottom line, Steve Rogers IS Captain America. Anyone else in the costume will always be a cheap gimmick or substitute. That all said, I like Bucky as a character and I think he ROCKS as the Winter Soldier.

Superior Spider-Man has been downright entertaining, but I get what you're saying. When doc Ock took over Spidey, you knew it was temporary because Spidey is Peter Parker and vice versa.
 
Superior Spider-Man has been downright entertaining, but I get what you're saying. When doc Ock took over Spidey, you knew it was temporary because Spidey is Peter Parker and vice versa.

Yeah, I'm not saying that all of the stories featuring subs suck. I'm just saying that these stories have a shelf life and the OGs are going to reclaim the mantle at some point. Steve Rogers is Cap, Bruce Wayne is Bats, Peter Parker is Spider-Man, etc....

If I'm paying $400+ for a statue of a character I like, I'm looking for the lead dog not some sub. Hell, I'm still looking to add a 1/4 classic Cap to my collection. There's no way that Bucky Cap is going to fill that bill. However, I'd be very interested in a well done Winter Soldier PF. I really dig that version of the character.
 
I went on the wait-list for the Ex. I'm guessing it's to late now but if it's meant to be it's meant to be.
 
I went on the wait-list for the Ex. I'm guessing it's to late now but if it's meant to be it's meant to be.

It may happen. Usually if you jump on this late, you'll have to wait until around the time a piece ships to see if there are any conversions. Peeps that jumped on early will convert for sure. I have already seen a few peeps post that they converted. Good luck.

I had to have this piece. It's a fantastic version of the Red Skull and the EX on this piece is fabulous. I only need a handful of must have villains in the Marvel U (Apocalypse, Thanos, Green Goblin, Magneto, Dr Doom, and Red Skull). This RS PF fits the bill nicely and I already have Apocalypse on PO. I'm hoping for a full reveal of the new Dr Doom PF that has been sneaked. After that, a Mags, Thanos, and a new GG PF will finish off my Marvel baddies.
 
It may happen. Usually if you jump on this late, you'll have to wait until around the time a piece ships to see if there are any conversions. Peeps that jumped on early will convert for sure. I have already seen a few peeps post that they converted. Good luck.

I had to have this piece. It's a fantastic version of the Red Skull and the EX on this piece is fabulous. I only need a handful of must have villains in the Marvel U (Apocalypse, Thanos, Green Goblin, Magneto, Dr Doom, and Red Skull). This RS PF fits the bill nicely and I already have Apocalypse on PO. I'm hoping for a full reveal of the new Dr Doom PF that has been sneaked. After that, a Mags, Thanos, and a new GG PF will finish off my Marvel baddies.

Yeah I want Doom bad, I can't wait to see the full reveal of that one.

Worse case scenario regarding RS is I'll just get the Reg. RS, Doom, Loki, Magneto & Thanos are my most wanted villains but that's not including any Spidey villains but I'm hoping SS make them in 1/5 now to go with the new Spiderman CQ

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Gotta be honest you will probably kick yourself if you just settle for the regular on this one.
That kirby look for the Ex is a killer.

You know what's funny? I'm not even a Kirby fan and I think the EX looks killer. Kirby's work just looks so dated to me. I passed on the original Hulk PF because I hated the face portrait and the Kirby look to it. However, the Kirby portrait on RS looks fantastic IMO. That all said, the REG portrait on RS looks great as well. I can totally see peeps opting to display that portrait and picking up a REG edition of the PF. The best part about this piece...regardless of what portrait you choose, this will be an awesome looking PF.
 
Gotta be honest you will probably kick yourself if you just settle for the regular on this one.
That kirby look for the Ex is a killer.

Yeah but if I can't get it I can't have it. It's my fault for leaving it so late so if I do miss out which is likely now, then I've only got myself to blame but still the Reg is still a real nice piece so either way I'll have a RS PF.

I'll keep an eye out for the Ex on eBay if I do miss out but it's normally hard chasing down PF's living in Europe
 
You know what's funny? I'm not even a Kirby fan and I think the EX looks killer. Kirby's work just looks so dated to me. I passed on the original Hulk PF because I hated the face portrait and the Kirby look to it. However, the Kirby portrait on RS looks fantastic IMO. That all said, the REG portrait on RS looks great as well. I can totally see peeps opting to display that portrait and picking up a REG edition of the PF. The best part about this piece...regardless of what portrait you choose, this will be an awesome looking PF.
Really I love the Kirby look. It takes me back to a tkme when comic characters looked like characters (if you know what I mean). Now they look like regular ppl. I still love tge new designs but to me Kirby started it all. That said, you're right about how killer the Reg head looks too. This is truly a great PF.

Yeah but if I can't get it I can't have it. It's my fault for leaving it so late so if I do miss out which is likely now, then I've only got myself to blame but still the Reg is still a real nice piece so either way I'll have a RS PF.

I'll keep an eye out for the Ex on eBay if I do miss out but it's normally hard chasing down PF's living in Europe

Dude dont worry man, im sure you'll convert. There will be a lot of drop outs as well as those who's cards screw em over. Either way you'll get it. I have confidence. Same here though EX or Fail


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Really I love the Kirby look. It takes me back to a time when comic characters looked like characters (if you know what I mean). Now they look like regular ppl. I still love tge new designs but to me Kirby started it all. That said, you're right about how killer the Reg head looks too. This is truly a great PF.


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As a almost life long comic reader...believe me when I say that I'm fully aware of how important and influential Kirby is to comics in general and especially to the Marvel U. No artist has been more important to the comic industry. I truly do understand the love and admiration for the man and his work. However, I started reading comics in the mid 70s and my favorite artists were John Byrne and George Perez at that time. I'm on the opposite side of how you feel. I like a more realistic look to my characters. I think the artwork nowadays is leaps and bounds better than it was in the the 50s and 60s. I also like my statues looking the same way. The nice thing is that SSC seems to be willing to give us both modern and old school looks with there merch. On rare occasion I even like the old school look better. That is certainly the case with the EX Rhino COM Romita looking head and the Kirby looking portrait on this RS. Overall though, I'm a big fan of how the art in comics have taken a major leap forward from the Kirby era.
 
As a almost life long comic reader...believe me when I say that I'm fully aware of how important and influential Kirby is to comics in general and especially to the Marvel U. No artist has been more important to the comic industry. I truly do understand the love and admiration for the man and his work. However, I started reading comics in the mid 70s and my favorite artists were John Byrne and George Perez at that time. I'm on the opposite side of how you feel. I like a more realistic look to my characters. I think the artwork nowadays is leaps and bounds better than it was in the the 50s and 60s. I also like my statues looking the same way. The nice thing is that SSC seems to be willing to give us both modern and old school looks with there merch. On rare occasion I even like the old school look better. That is certainly the case with the EX Rhino COM Romita looking head and the Kirby looking portrait on this RS. Overall though, I'm a big fan of how the art in comics have taken a major leap forward from the Kirby era.

Lol you missed my point and I think I may have missed yours. I love the way Kirby stuff looked and ita just iconic and classic to me but I love the way the art has evolved over the years and I also prefer that. I just loved that Kirby's characters looked more like the characters out of fantasy as opposed to the real world. This works only for some of them as many of them should look like Humans lol

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Lol you missed my point and I think I may have missed yours. I love the way Kirby stuff looked and ita just iconic and classic to me but I love the way the art has evolved over the years and I also prefer that. I just loved that Kirby's characters looked more like the characters out of fantasy as opposed to the real world. This works only for some of them as many of them should look like Humans lol

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OK, I got you now. As much as I didn't like the Kirby influence on the Hulk PFs portrait, I think it looks killer on the Red Skull. SSC did a fantastic job on both portraits and I'll definitely be switching them up from time to time.
 
OK, I got you now. As much as I didn't like the Kirby influence on the Hulk PFs portrait, I think it looks killer on the Red Skull. SSC did a fantastic job on both portraits and I'll definitely be switching them up from time to time.

Im with you on the Hulk too. Wasnt a fan of the Kirby Hulk either. Now if Sideshow did a full Kirby version of The Avengers it'd be a different story. Yeah this RS sculpt is effing spectacular. What surprised me was that it didnt sell out as soon as I thought it might initially.

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Im with you on the Hulk too. Wasnt a fan of the Kirby Hulk either. Now if Sideshow did a full Kirby version of The Avengers it'd be a different story. Yeah this RS sculpt is effing spectacular. What surprised me was that it didnt sell out as soon as I thought it might initially.

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Too many PO on hand probaby, wallet not thick enough. =)
 
Too many PO on hand probaby, wallet not thick enough. =)

I jumped on the WL for RS about a week after it sold out. I just converted recently. It was a calculated decision. I knew I would convert down the road. However, I was able to get my Superman PF down to my last flex payment and my Harley PF only has 2 more to go. That opened the door for me to squeeze in RS. Normally I don't play the WL game. If I KNOW I want a piece I just PO it the day it goes up. However, this year I have a lot more POs than I usually do. So, I went ahead and wait listed RS to juggle some $$$. I usually only buy about 3 pieces a year from SSC. In the past year though I'm on the hook for Supes, Harley, Red Skull, Apocalypse, Wonder Woman, and I just got my Bats PF. 6 pieces is double what I usually get. It's the addition of the DC license that is playing havok with my wallet. And it's not over yet...Catwoman is another PF I'm almost certain I'll be adding to the collection. SSC has released some incredible stuff over the last year and they are showing no signs of slowing down.
 
I jumped on the WL for RS about a week after it sold out. I just converted recently. It was a calculated decision. I knew I would convert down the road. However, I was able to get my Superman PF down to my last flex payment and my Harley PF only has 2 more to go. That opened the door for me to squeeze in RS. Normally I don't play the WL game. If I KNOW I want a piece I just PO it the day it goes up. However, this year I have a lot more POs than I usually do. So, I went ahead and wait listed RS to juggle some $$$. I usually only buy about 3 pieces a year from SSC. In the past year though I'm on the hook for Supes, Harley, Red Skull, Apocalypse, Wonder Woman, and I just got my Bats PF. 6 pieces is double what I usually get. It's the addition of the DC license that is playing havok with my wallet. And it's not over yet...Catwoman is another PF I'm almost certain I'll be adding to the collection. SSC has released some incredible stuff over the last year and they are showing no signs of slowing down.

I think you're right. I never bought anything until the DC license but it really opened up my wallet to spending this sort of money on them. The wife being cool with it helps a LOT lol happy wife happy life and all. Yeah Catwoman maybe a few Marvel PFs ill be on like 8 or 9 POs by the end of the year :(

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I think you're right. I never bought anything until the DC license but it really opened up my wallet to spending this sort of money on them. The wife being cool with it helps a LOT lol happy wife happy life and all. Yeah Catwoman maybe a few Marvel PFs ill be on like 8 or 9 POs by the end of the year :(

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It's so easy to get carried away in this hobby :lol I've got 11 PO's right now plus Red Skull on wait list & then were got all the new reveals to come from SDCC :horror
 
It's so easy to get carried away in this hobby :lol I've got 11 PO's right now plus Red Skull on wait list & then were got all the new reveals to come from SDCC :horror

Holy crap lol. I thought I was bad. I remember when I had PO'd Supes and I would see some guys and the POs they had and id think to myself that's crazy. The sheer amount of money seemed nuts to me. However a great wife some great PO choices and flexpay changed all of that really quickly. I know, with all the maybes plus Star Wars stuff ill either have to just stop for a but or sell or lol just keep going. In two more years my house will have settled and I can start renovating my basement to accomodate eveeything. I think im going to create a custom glass display for all my PFs so it looks like youve walked into a museum. Cannot wait.

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