Headplay recast Rainman's monkey sculpt again!

[Niltusk]

Your reading comprehension needs improvement. Headplay is a thief as Rainman has asked him to stop. A customizer who is creating heads of people who may actually appreciate it is not.

At Costco, taking samples, without paying, doesn't make you a thief.

TO BE CLEAR: sculpting a head is not an illegal act. Not honoring the wishes of the person whom you've sculpted is. Get it?

Your intellect needs some improvement. The Costco is not even a good example and has nothing to do with this. You say if its not pursued by the law then no harm no foul. Then have him call the police, boom! end of story. If this guy is selling to collectors via paypal, then his name, address, etc. are plenty available. If its illegal then he can reported to the Bay as well as Paypal. Or you can continue to whine and _____ and moan about everyone who doesn't 100% agree with your views.

 

[dchung]

can you send me a picture of you, i am working on a custom 1/6 toy for the gay prom industry that they will auction for charity, i am sure you wont mind if i use your likeness----right

Ironically, it's actually very helpful when people like mojo customz post comments like this that demonstrate so clearly what level of education and maturity they operate at. It surely helps the lurkers choose sides more efficiently.

 

[MisterToyNYC]

can you send me a picture of you, i am working on a custom 1/6 toy for the gay prom industry that they will auction for charity, i am sure you wont mind if i use your likeness----right

And now we see what we're dealing with.

I guess it's safe to say that those who feel that Rainman is a thief would want this forum to be rid of artist like him, Serang, Feng and others. Right?

I for one hope that never happens.

Eric

 

[dchung]

Your intellect needs some improvement. The Costco is not even a good example and has nothing to do with this. You say if its not pursued by the law then no harm no foul. Then have him call the police, boom! end of story. If this guy is selling to collectors via paypal, then his name, address, etc. are plenty available. If its illegal then he can reported to the Bay as well as Paypal. Or you can continue to whine and _____ and moan about everyone who doesn't 100% agree with your views.

No, I said if it's not pursued by the rights holder. The law is there to state who would prevail.

Seriously, go work on your reading comprehension.

 

[MisterToyNYC]

No, I said if it's not pursued by the rights holder. The law is there to state who would prevail.

Seriously, go work on your reading comprehension.

Hmm. Maybe the type is too small. Let me help you here... He said, if it's not pursued by the rights holder. The law is there to state who would prevail.

Seriously, go work on your reading comprehension.

Eric

 

[MisterToyNYC]

Is Rainman suing???

Eric

 

[mojo customz]

Ironically, it's actually very helpful when people like mojo customz post comments like this that demonstrate so clearly what level of education and maturity they operate at. It surely helps the lurkers choose sides more efficiently.

there is right and there is wrong---pretty simple
rainman did not pay any license that is why he called this monkey sculpt and not by its real name clearly shows he knows what is is doing-----
you not seeing the difference between something sooooo simple shows the level you come from
ps---i hold a patent and retired at 35-------

 

[thenammagazine]

So you guys don't see the hypocrisy of some of the freaks around here? Some of the biggest whiners about Rainman's heads being recast own unauthorized recasts. The Indy PF head illegally recast and resized to 1/6 and now in the collection of some of the people ranting about Headplay in this very thread was a perfect example.

 

[mojo customz]

So you guys don't see the hypocrisy of some of the freaks around here? Some of the biggest whiners about Rainman's heads being recast own unauthorized recasts. The Indy PF head illegally recast and resized to 1/6 and now in the collection of some of the people ranting about Headplay in this very thread was a perfect example.

the hypocrisy i think comes from the fact that they paid a whole lot of $$$$$ to buy the rainmans product and now the whole world has it for 20 bucks-----they will stay blind------------------

 

[Niltusk]

The best part of this is the people insulting headplay repeatedly in this thread with no proof. Since this thread has started Headplay has not had the monkey sculpt in his Bay store, not once. You can look back about 8 weeks before this thread started, not a single monkey sculpt sold. So, he wasn't selling this before the thread started, he wasn't selling this when the thread started and hes still not selling this. Good job indeed!

 

[MisterToyNYC]

So let me ask this. If you were to sculpt or pay a sculptor to make a headsculpt of lets say, John Wayne, and then a month later find that headsculpt on eBay for sale, you would be ok with this? You would not feel robbed? You wouldn't blink an eye? Is that what you're saying?

Eric

 

[Ironman1188]

Dan and Eric, I can appreciate your point but I really feel that there are three sides viewing this and the argument originally posted caused more confusion when there was no hard evidence posted in this thread to back it up.
I also don't see anyone starting a _______ recast Headplay sculpt with the Depp into Crow thread.
I don't want to see sculptors stop sculpting. You should both know better than that as I have done business with both of you. My postings weren't to condemn Rainman or Headplay. I read through the posts and saw nothing but accusations and circumstancial [at best] evidence.

The list of people that will never be allowed to participate in any custom commissions I host just keeps growing. Got about a dozen people now who support or sympathise with recasters that I will never ever sell a custom head to or allow on an interest list.

I hope that you are comparing that list to past customers, because there were probably a recaster or two in there.
Your McCarthyism-like response is interesting. You are condemning folks and pre-denying them anything for having an opinion.

 

[Niltusk]

So let me ask this. If you were to sculpt or pay a sculptor to make a headsculpt of lets say, John Wayne, and then a month later find that headsculpt on eBay for sale, you would be ok with this? You would not feel robbed? You wouldn't blink an eye? Is that what you're saying?

Eric

It wasn't on Ebay on head Plays account is it hard for you to understand this? You don't have the internet to look for yourself? Is that what you're saying?

 

[Deckard]

You are condemning folks and pre-denying them anything for having an opinion.

Not everyone, people who are saying they see absolutely no problem with it whatsoever will not be sold any custom material by me in the future to prevent the possiblity of recasting. It's pretty logical and simple.

 

[MisterToyNYC]

Dan and Eric, I can appreciate your point but I really feel that there are three sides viewing this and the argument originally posted caused more confusion when there was no hard evidence posted in this thread to back it up.
I also don't see anyone starting a _______ recast Headplay sculpt with the Depp into Crow thread.
I don't want to see sculptors stop sculpting. You should both know better than that as I have done business with both of you. My postings weren't to condemn Rainman or Headplay. I read through the posts and saw nothing but accusations and circumstancial [at best] evidence.




I hope that you are comparing that list to past customers, because there were probably a recaster or two in there.
Your McCarthyism-like response is interesting. You are condemning folks and pre-denying them anything for having an opinion.

I'm sorry, but my postings are not condeming at either Headplay or Rainman.

Eric

 

[Ironman1188]

Not everyone, people who are saying they see absolutely no problem with it whatsoever will not be sold any custom material by me in the future to prevent the possiblity of recasting. It's pretty logical and simple.

You left out shortsighted. You have no way to tell who may or may not be a recaster. You're prejudging what you think people's intentions are by interpreting [or misinterpreting] their words.

I'm sorry, but my postings are not condeming at either Headplay or Rainman.

Eric

Eric, that comment was not aimed at you, that's why it followed Deckard's quote.

 

[MisterToyNYC]

It wasn't on Ebay on head Plays account is it hard for you to understand this? You don't have the internet to look for yourself? Is that what you're saying?

Ugh! I was giving an example. I'm not saying they heads were being sold on eBay.

Now that I've made that clear, do you have a response to the my question? Would you be ok with it?

Eric

 

[Niltusk]

Ugh! I was giving an example. I'm not saying they heads were being sold on eBay.

Now that I've made that clear, do you have a response to the my question? Would you be ok with it?

Eric

Maybe this is beyond your capacity, but if I preorder the new Amazing Spiderman for $225, I get it I like it, a week later counterfeit ones hit the Bay en masse and are selling for $125. This has nothing to do with me, I could give a ____ less. I have what I paid for. I paid what I thought was fair. If Hot Toys thinks theres a problem I'm sure they'll look into the legality of whats up. Now, you can claim you're a polesquatter, but most people on this thread are saying at worse case that what people are saying is going on is the price of doing business as a customizer (including other customizers). No one seems to be outright saying yeah, its cool, rip people off. No one wants to see anyone ripped off, but when people offer a different viewpoint and you get people like DChung who just want to attack anyone that doesn't agree with him 100% and then you post like hes got his hand up your ass and your his puppet its hard to believe when you say you're not trying to condemn either of the parties that this thread is about.

Edit: But of course if I don't agree that HeadPlay did this even if I haven't seen this on his FB or Bay, I'm supposed to 100% agree with certain board Nazis or I'm a sympathizer. I call Bull____.

 

[Deckard]

You left out shortsighted. You have no way to tell who may or may not be a recaster. You're prejudging what you think people's intentions are by interpreting [or misinterpreting] their words.

I don't know if you are or aren't a recaster, I can't know that, should I give everyone a voight kampff test before I let them on an interest list or sell them a custom from my collection? I don't care how you discuss it but once you cross the line and basically say you don't care and would buy a recast head, then yes, I'm judging you and saying since I don't support it, I won't help you get a custom work. I feel it is a respectful way of supporting that artist and preventing it from falling into the wrong hands.

 

[MisterToyNYC]

Maybe this is beyond your capacity, but if I preorder the new Amazing Spiderman for $225, I get it I like it, a week later counterfeit ones hit the Bay en masse and are selling for $125. This has nothing to do with me, I could give a ____ less. I have what I paid for. I paid what I thought was fair. If Hot Toys thinks theres a problem I'm sure they'll look into the legality of whats up. Now, you can claim you're a polesquatter, but most people on this thread are saying at worse case that what people are saying is going on is the price of doing business as a customizer (including other customizers). No one seems to be outright saying yeah, its cool, rip people off. No one wants to see anyone ripped off, but when people offer a different viewpoint and you get people like DChung who just want to attack anyone that doesn't agree with him 100% and then you post like hes got his hand up your ass and your his puppet its hard to believe when you say you're not trying to condemn either of the parties that this thread is about.

Edit: But of course if I don't agree that HeadPlay did this even if I haven't seen this on his FB or Bay, I'm supposed to 100% agree with certain board Nazis or I'm a sympathizer. I call Bull____.

Now you're being condescending and rude. And your response is not answering the question I'm asking. I'm done. Have fun kids.

Eric