The Amazing Spider-Man - OPEN SPOILERS NOW

[thenammagazine]

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Which makes 123 pages about 2 hours.

Which is just about the average length of films nowadays.

Venom wasn't the worst thing in SM3. The characterization of Peter Parker was the worst part (which I blame Maguire for), followed by the embarrassing scene where Peter dances, and then there's Gwen who was just scenery with nothing to do in the story.

Thomas H. Church is a good actor who was poorly utilized. When I saw the poster for SM3 where he's hiding his little girl behind him and the cops are drawing - I thought they knew what they where doing with the character. Too bad it didn't turn out that way.

Venom could work in a film, but you must have a director who actually likes the character. I think you would also have to throw in the numerous venom-ish spinoff characters as well.

I don't think Raimi hated Venom. I think it was executive input that ruined the movie. They wanted more, bigger, better, not realizing that less is actually more, bigger and better.

 

[Deckard]

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Which is just about the average length of films nowadays.

Which is exactly my point... Are you ok?

SM1 = 121 minutes, SM2 = 128

I'm not the one that said it was too short.

 

[thenammagazine]

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Which is exactly my point... Are you ok?

SM1 = 121 minutes, SM2 = 128

I'm not the one that said it was too short.

No, but you're more fun than picking on ZaCH. He's like the special kid.

 

[Deckard]

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[ZaCHw117]

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because i'm quite excited for this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8nSMg2G8jEI

That was actually really good!

 

[thenammagazine]

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[ZaCHw117]

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Ahhh, you rednecks and your WWF.

 

[Kamandi]

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I don't think Raimi hated Venom. I think it was executive input that ruined the movie. They wanted more, bigger, better, not realizing that less is actually more, bigger and better.

I've heard that was a problem too. The whole movie looks rushed with too much crap jammed it it. It's not a story as much as a checklist of stuff someone wanted to see.

Batman Returns feels that way too. I always suspected Burton opened up Anton Furst's sketchbook and said "That's all we need, don't worry about a script."

 

[Deckard]

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[ZaCHw117]

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No, but you're more fun than picking on ZaCH. He's like the special kid.

Nam, your mad just because I'm a bigger bad ass than you.

 

[Kamandi]

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I hear 'Swan Lake' in my head when I see this pic.

 

[kazukijun]

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Raimi didn't want to add Venom in, if I recalled correctly, it was the Marvel or Avi Arad that insisted on adding Venom in.

 

[Uncanny Web-Slinger]

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SM3 was just far too disjointed, it felt like multiple stories vying for time, all of them failing to resonate

1. You had the failed payoff of the building up of Harry Osborn as a Goblin villain.

2. Sandman and his redemption through crime to save his kid

3. Eddie getting jealous and hating Peter after stealing 'his' girl, that he had onlyone date with.

4. A scrawny, screeching something slightly resembling Venom shoe-horned in

They kept switching back between them. And no movie, NO MOVIE! In the 21st century can be excused for having a main character get amnesia disappear for half the film and come back after switching sides so many times viewers became dizzy. Not to mention a character being represented as angry and evil through slicked hair and dancing.

Just thinking about the Fails get's my blood boiling again

 

[Deckard]

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Raimi Plot Forumla

1. Villain is made that way tragically

2. Peter is completely incapable of handling life

3. MJ tells Peter they can't be togeather, Pete cries

4. MJ is now with someone else / Peter doesnt want to be Spiderman anymore

5. MJ gets kidnapped

6. Spiderman and Villain fight

7. Villain apologises and commits suicide

8. Peter refuses to be with MJ because she could end up getting kidnapped again (5 times in 3 movies)

9. Repeat

 

[thenammagazine]

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Ahhh, you rednecks and your WWF.

I've heard that was a problem too. The whole movie looks rushed with too much crap jammed it it. It's not a story as much as a checklist of stuff someone wanted to see.

Batman Returns feels that way too. I always suspected Burton opened up Anton Furst's sketchbook and said "That's all we need, don't worry about a script."

Returns, Forever, B&R feel that way.

Nam, your mad just because I'm a bigger bad ass than you.

Raimi didn't want to add Venom in, if I recalled correctly, it was the Marvel or Avi Arad that insisted on adding Venom in.

You heard wrong. Marvel had zero input in Spider-Man. They basically sold him outright to Columbia.

 

[CelticPredator]

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Which makes 123 pages about 2 hours.

The general rule is one page per minute. Dont like that rule too much. I just gave out a number. And you could easily stretch it out in its run time if ya want too.

 

[Deckard]

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The general rule is one page per minute. Dont like that rule too much. I just gave out a number. And you could easily stretch it out in its run time if ya want too.

Yea my point was simply that your number was in fact pretty accurate for most movies, certainly movies like this. Spiderman isn't like a Kubrick script where 3 hours ends up on the cutting room floor.

 

[Cap'n Cook]

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Raimi Plot Forumla

1. Villain is made that way tragically

2. Peter is completely incapable of handling life

3. MJ tells Peter they can't be togeather, Pete cries

4. MJ is now with someone else / Peter doesnt want to be Spiderman anymore

5. MJ gets kidnapped

6. Spiderman and Villain fight

7. Villain apologises and commits suicide

8. Peter refuses to be with MJ because she could end up getting kidnapped again (5 times in 3 movies)

9. Repeat

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..

 

[Kamandi]

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One of the dumbest things always bugs me when I see the first film: Uncle Ben has been an electrician for 30 years and looses his job. Then we see him sitting at a table with needle-nose pliers and I think he's trying to strip or twist a wire. Badly. Couldn't someone have shown Cliff Robertson how to strip a wire? No wonder you lost your friggin' job Uncle Ben! I wouldn't trust you to screw in a light bulb!

 

[Uncanny Web-Slinger]

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^ he'd be crap at driving a getaway vehicle too