The Batman (June 25, 2021)

[greygoose]

https://collider.com/the-batman-movie-deleted-scene-joker-barry-keoghan/

Glad they cut it. What we got was fine.

 

[jye4ever]

I think I just saw the most accurate comic/graphic novel version of Batman ever put on screen.

Pattinson killed it. Right from the first scene, loved how much emotion and attitude he gives off just with his shifty eyes and the methodical way he moves throughout the film.

The first two acts were something of a masterpiece. I love the Gordon/Batman aspect and they actually delivered on making a “worlds greatest detective” movie. Figuring out clues as Dano’s Riddler methodically pulls at their and the audience’s thread was such a blast.

Zoe Kravitz killed it as well, the best Selina we’ve ever seen in my opinion. Pattinson and her really got the movement and attitude down to the T on these characters and I really hope we see her in the role again.

Dano is THE Riddler here. No camp or over the top costume. Just a wimp with a massive brain, a misguided sense of direction with an insane plan backed by a solid reasoning from where he stands. a great villain. I’m glad they held his ego back a bit unlike the comics. It was interesting how politically fueled his plot was without barfing it all over your lap like other movies these days.

Penguin was a lot of fun, and took part in the best action sequence in the film. That Batmobile chase was insane.

The third act was great too and gave me the action finale I wanted, even if it was a little larger scale then I hoped they pulled it off with such class. It reminded me a lot of Begins, which isn’t a terrible thing at all.

After the hyper realism of TDK and TDKR, and barely spending anytime with Batman and his relationship with Gotham in Snyder’s films, I’m so happy Gotham finally feels like a character again, as it should. The set designers and art teams need nominated for this. The coolest and dingiest Gotham on screen.

It’s up there with TDK and ‘89. Loved every minute of it.

10/10.

PS: I’m glad the “Twilight, emo, skinny, cringe” argument has finally faded after all the time and anticipation we sat through. People actually woke up and realized this dude has chops.

Great review

 

[AMMO]

Great review

Thank you!

 

[Zurdo95D]

[...]

Honestly that may be a hard sell. At that point he's ... Daredevil?

Well for me, when I first saw the bat suit for this film, the cowl reminded me of netflix Daredevil, and it still does.

I hated the suit before the fim but I've warmed up to it ... even though I would have preferred it be a little more streamlined and less SWAT.

Yeah admittedly I was a bit tepid about the suit when images surfaced, but looking closely at it now (to me) I see bits of inspiration from the AK games, the comic, and that Swat/tactical look. Yup, I've come to liking it overall. Plus I'm certain we'll see another more refined suit later on.

 

[Johnny Utah]

Absolutely amazing film. Gotham had weight to it. I haven't felt such city atmosphere on screen since Blade Runner.

Pattinson is incredible as Batman. He really sold the feeling of a regular guy going out at night and getting battered doing the best he can.

I hope they keep this tone and don't ruin it by bringing in characters outside of the Batman lore, even Superman would bring its established sense of realism down.

The Gotham presented here is a place I could almost smell, and that batsuit is just glorious. I hope HT makes a 1/4 version, I would definitely grab that too.

 

[Cap'n Cook]

Absolutely amazing film. Gotham had weight to it. I haven't felt such city atmosphere on screen since Blade Runner.

Pattinson is incredible as Batman. He really sold the feeling of a regular guy going out at night and getting battered doing the best he can.

I hope they keep this tone and don't ruin it by bringing in characters outside of the Batman lore, even Superman would bring its established sense of realism down.

The Gotham presented here is a place I could almost smell, and that batsuit is just glorious. I hope HT makes a 1/4 version, I would definitely grab that too.

Reeves has already confirmed no ‘outside’ Batman characters will appear.

 

[WolfBoy]

I enjoyed it.

I loved Rob’s more reserved/contained Bruce. I liked seeing him not being a playboy but really struggling to find how to navigate his mission in Gotham while struggling with his own trauma, being a recluse etc. i think it gives him a lot of time to grow over the course of the next few films.
I loved how he does alot of talking with his eyes when in the Bat suit, he analyses everything. I think Rob as Batman is the my favourite interpretation of Batman, the way he moves, his presence, he really sold it for me.

Zoe’s Selina was amazing and i liked that she had good chemistry with Rob. I know we’ll see her again, but i’m hoping her leaving Gotham at the end doesn’t mean she may skip movie 2 and come back in a later film. I’d love to see her relationship with Bruce develop with each movie.
Loved the costume, the nails, the way she fights, she was gorgeous.

Colin as Penguin was perfect, he seemed like he was having a really good time.

The opening scene was creepy, the score was great, the intro to the Batmobile was absolutely awesome, that thing looked and sounded like a monster.

I loved the closing arc of Batmans story, realising vengeance isn’t enough, that terrorizong criminals isn’t actually what he needs to be doing but also instilling hope in the people of the city. The scene where he pulls out the flare and rescues people from the water was so powerul.

I do think the movie is a little long, some parts do drag. Riddlers puzzles and kidnappings do start to feel a little samey in places and every time we get one it all comes with the same heavy exposition as the last. Had Riddlers traps been more elaborate and unique i think it would have made alot of the detective work a little more engaging.

Overall, it was a good start to a new trilogy/franchise with some solid world building and a really great cast.

Side note, anyone notice those backstage snaps of Zoe at the funeral in the hat never occurred in the film? It ended up being one of the club girls. I wonder if there was a scene were Zoe was in fact there but was cut? Totally didn’t except it not to be her.

 

[jye4ever]

His cowl gives way more emotion than the DD one.

Honestly I don’t even need Catwoman to be in a Batman movie.

 

[Johnny Utah]

I remember seeing her on set there, they probably added the other girl because it would have ruined the reveal a bit early.

I almost don't want to see the playboy Bruce with Pattinson now. He's clearly never gotten over this trauma, but I guess he'll need to deflect suspicion somehow.

 

[Cap'n Cook]

Just rewatched the opening 10mins on a streaming site. Horrific quality but just needed to digest it again.

Best 10mins of any film ever.

 

[jye4ever]

My Batman is so damaged he doesn’t even think about sex.

Pattinson pulled that off here he actually never lead with the kiss it was Selina driving it BUT I wanted him even less interested than what they showed.

No time for even a one handed polish session.

 

[Johnny Utah]

It'll be out in 44 days in perfect quality.

 

[Rainpaulo]

Really enjoyed this 8.5
Nice seeing something that just doesnt stick to the now tired and tested Marvel formula.

 

[Rainpaulo]

I have no interest in Strange.

I'm looking forward to giving it a look ....but I will wait for it to be available on Disney +

 

[DiFabio]

Glad they cut it. What we got was fine.

When I saw they cut Batman talking to him in the beginning of the film, I was happy and figured they cut out the end with him and Riddler in Arkham too. I thought it was so random and unnecessary.

Why they decided to keep the second part at the end baffles me. They should have cut it too and just skip to Batman and Catwoman in the cemetery. If you’re going to cut the first scene with Batman and “unnamed Arkham inmate” cut the second scene at the end too. Instead it makes it even more jarring and fan service like.

 

[greygoose]

When I saw they cut Batman talking to him in the beginning of the film, I was happy and figured they cut out the end with him and Riddler in Arkham too. I thought it was so random and unnecessary.

Why they decided to keep the second part at the end baffles me. They should have cut it too and just skip to Batman and Catwoman in the cemetery. If you’re going to cut the first scene with Batman and “unnamed Arkham inmate” cut the second scene at the end too. Instead it makes it even more jarring and fan service like.

Think it was a studio decision and not something Reeves wanted?

 

[greygoose]

Just rewatched the opening 10mins on a streaming site. Horrific quality but just needed to digest it again.

Best 10mins of any film ever.

I loved the narration too. I've spoke to someone who didn't like it however I thought it worked perfectly.

 

[ZE_501]

My Batman is so damaged he doesn’t even think about sex.

I don't know ... when:

Spoiler:

He sees Selina walk into the Penguin's office, he looks like he wants to eat her like a snack.

Pattinson pulled that off here he actually never lead with the kiss it was Selina driving it BUT I wanted him even less interested than what they showed.

Spoiler:

I liked it -- showed he's under control but he ain't dead. And Selina is a bombshell. Her sexuality is weaponized and dangerous as it should be for that character.

Also regarding Selina:

Spoiler:

She's really shown to be on the edge -- technically she already crossed the line when she kicked that cop off the edge of the building. She didn't *know* Bats would be able to save him. She straight up murdered him in front of Batman and Gordon. Sure it was a crime of passion from hearing her girlfriend murdered etc. but she still tried to murder the guy. And she would have succeeded if there wasn't a superhero standing there.

 

[DiFabio]

No idea.

Originally it plays out like Silence of the Lambs. After the first killing and riddle with the mayor, Batman goes to Arkham to interrogate the Joker because calling out Batman directly fits his MO. The Joker isn’t named obviously but right off the bat you get the idea that the two have had history. Batman writes him off as a potential suspect and goes on his merrily way. Immediately it feels unnecessary. The only aspect I liked about it was it felt like “another day in the life” of Batman, like it’s a slice of what he pretty much does every single night. But we get a glimpse of this already with the thugs in the beginning of the movie.

Another thing I’m surprised they didn’t cut was all the BS between Falcone getting assassinated and Riddler at the diner/cafe. That was so frivolous having Batman go into the apartment, along with the GCPD, only to have a random lady call in that “oh yeah, I saw him go down the catwalk and sit down to buy coffee”. So much stuff could have been cut tighter.

 

[greygoose]

No idea.

Originally it plays out like Silence of the Lambs. After the first killing and riddle with the mayor, Batman goes to Arkham to interrogate the Joker because calling out Batman directly fits his MO. The Joker isn’t named obviously but right off the bat you get the idea that the two have had history. Batman writes him off as a potential suspect and goes on his merrily way. Immediately it feels unnecessary. The only aspect I liked about it was it felt like “another day in the life” of Batman, like it’s a slice of what he pretty much does every single night. But we get a glimpse of this already with the thugs in the beginning of the movie.

Another thing I’m surprised they didn’t cut was all the BS between Falcone getting assassinated and Riddler at the diner/cafe. That was so frivolous having Batman go into the apartment, along with the GCPD, only to have a random lady call in that “oh yeah, I saw him go down the catwalk and sit down to buy coffee”. So much stuff could have been cut tighter.

Think they'll use Joker heavily in the sequel or have him in the odd scene, like the above you described?