Dalton may have sucked as Bond but "Licence to Kill" had some of the most awesome 18 wheeler stunt driving I've ever seen on film.
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Dalton is imo, the 2nd best Bond to Connery. I love him.
I could never buy into Roger Moore, he looks like a pediatrician or something.
I could never buy into Roger Moore, he looks like a pediatrician or something.
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Comb-over Bond made the character kid friendly. Not something you want in your spy movies. 
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Ford: Shia's a F-ing Idiot for Indy Diss
It's father vs. son in the latest celeb war of words.
June 29, 2011
by Jim Vejvoda
Remember last year when Shia LaBeouf both stunned the media and met with acclaim from disgruntled fanboys for admitting that they'd "dropped the ball" on Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull? Well, now he's finally catching hell for it and from none other than his on-screen dad Indy, Harrison Ford.
Although the interview is ostensibly about LaBeouf and his "bad boy" ways, one of the most talked about quotes from the Details Magazine piece is Ford's on-the-record reply to LaBeouf's dissing of Indy IV: "I think I told him he was a _____*ing idiot. ... As an actor, I think it's my obligation to support the film without making a complete ass of myself. Shia is ambitious, attentive, and talented — and he's learning how to deal with a situation which is very unique and difficult."
Shia shouldnt verbalize everything that crosses his brain.
Don't collectively piss off Harrison,George and Steven. The holy trinity of hollywood.
Dont talk about your naked mom walking around when you were young and your desire to marry her.
Dont brag about nailing Megan Fox. No class.
It's father vs. son in the latest celeb war of words.
June 29, 2011
by Jim Vejvoda
Remember last year when Shia LaBeouf both stunned the media and met with acclaim from disgruntled fanboys for admitting that they'd "dropped the ball" on Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull? Well, now he's finally catching hell for it and from none other than his on-screen dad Indy, Harrison Ford.
Although the interview is ostensibly about LaBeouf and his "bad boy" ways, one of the most talked about quotes from the Details Magazine piece is Ford's on-the-record reply to LaBeouf's dissing of Indy IV: "I think I told him he was a _____*ing idiot. ... As an actor, I think it's my obligation to support the film without making a complete ass of myself. Shia is ambitious, attentive, and talented — and he's learning how to deal with a situation which is very unique and difficult."
Shia shouldnt verbalize everything that crosses his brain.
Don't collectively piss off Harrison,George and Steven. The holy trinity of hollywood.
Dont talk about your naked mom walking around when you were young and your desire to marry her.
Dont brag about nailing Megan Fox. No class.
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What?!?!! I can understand a bit of what you're saying because I was a kid when Roger Moore was Bond when I started watching them, but there was nothing kid friendly about the Roger Moore 007.
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That's my point. I was as well, growing up only seeing Moore's movies on cable. Moore's movies weren't the serious kickass spy flicks they should've been. They were hokey, Mr. Furley Karate, tongue-in-cheek, corny spy movies. When I saw Never Say Never Again, I was blown away with how cool James Bond could be and that's what turned me on to the older Connery movies (which were a pain to hunt down on VHS at that time
). IMHO, even then as a kid, I thought Lazenby was by far a better Bond than Moore and he didn't even take the role seriously.
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Timothy Dalton was Daniel Craig's Bond 20 years before anybody knew who Daniel Craig was.
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I didn't appreciate Dalton's Bond movies when I first saw them, but I've come to appreciate them alot more.
The Moore Bonds were definitely more campy, but that's hardly his fault. That trend started with Connery in You Only Live Twice and hit full camp in Diamonds Are Forever.
The Moore Bonds were definitely more campy, but that's hardly his fault. That trend started with Connery in You Only Live Twice and hit full camp in Diamonds Are Forever.
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I never got into Connery. I grew up with Moore but I see that his movies weren't the real Bond. They were a lot of fun though, and I liked that portrayal of Bond even if it wasn't true to the character. Having read some of the Fleming novels, I see Connery's take isn't any closer (well, maybe a little closer) than Moore's take. I always thought Dalton's take was a little too...unstable for Bond. He seemed to be very volatile and not the cool customer Bond should be. In my opinion, Craig has been the closest character portrayal to Fleming's Bond, with a very close second to Brosnan. You can see that Brosnan and Martin Campbell were trying to steer the franchise in the Casino Royale direction in Goldeneye (still my favourite one of the series). You can't blame poor Brosnan for the horrendous Die Another Day and World Is Not Enough (Tomorrow Never Dies was kinda okay). Brosnan had the character right, but he got stuck with crappy directors and producers who wanted to go back to the Connery/Moore over-the-top style.
There's Connery... and there's Craig. Nobody does it better.
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I completely agree with your assesment of Brosnan getting stuck with poor stories. I disagree that Dalton was unstable. I actually think he might be more like the literary Bond than Brosnan. He was a pretty cold and calculating Bond. I'm leaving Craig out of the equation because I'm still sore about some of the directions the series has gone in and that colors my view. He is a damn good Bond though.
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Comb-over bond was too goofy. Dalton, whom I call the Dirty Bond, just didn't seem like an "alpha male" to me. They were great action movies but I just couldn't buy him as Bond. Brosnan was good but the fact that he was too old, the hokey actors and even more hokey stories blew any chance of that out of the water. Die was atrocious and anybody who didn't think of him as a pedo when he kissed Richards in World, or cringed at that gaggy "Christmas comes twice" joke, needs to have their head examined. As it is, buying her as a "scientist" on any level was a faaaaaaaaaaaar stretch. Craig, despite initial skepticism, is the perfect Bond for today.
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Was there a version of Indy that wasn't campy? The campiness is kind of half of the Indy "thing", no?
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I consider Raiders to be dead serious, with just a few areas of comic relief. Temple upped the humor to balance out the overly dark tones of the movie. Unfortunately LC went too far with the humor and they haven't looked back since.
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I heard on the radio yesterday that Ford called Shia a "f---ing idiot" because he trashed KOTCS on an interview....But Shia told the truth about fans been disappointed with the film and about the monkey scenes and all.
Have you guys heard about this ?
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Have you guys heard about this ?
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