Captain America: The First Avenger Discussion Thread

[PlayItLoud]

Saw it again today with a friend. A really good origin story.

For being number one in the box office this week here's a toast from his fellow avengers.

 

[bumblebee]

Saw it again today with a friend. A really good origin story.

For being number one in the box office this week here's a toast from his fellow avengers.

Kewl pic!

 

[Agent0028]

The movie isn't what I was hoping for in a Cap movie, but it turned out so well I would be an idiot to complain. I do have one question though...

Spoiler:

Do you think the way the cube went from Earth to Odin's treasure room will be explain in Avengers? I spent a little too much of the movie trying to figure that out. And then how'd it get from Odin's treasure room to Fury's possession?

I loved the Avengers teaser trailer at the end. I really feel like Marvel is 3 out of 5 for excellent movies and the two I leave out (IM2 and Hulk) are really good but I hate Hulk and IM2 gets alot of criticism.

 

[krec9]

saw it again today enjoyed it even more the second time

 

[jye4ever]

saw it again today enjoyed it even more the second time

Same here, even better.er..errrr...the 3rd time

 

[Biojex]

The movie isn't what I was hoping for in a Cap movie, but it turned out so well I would be an idiot to complain. I do have one question though...

Spoiler:

Do you think the way the cube went from Earth to Odin's treasure room will be explain in Avengers? I spent a little too much of the movie trying to figure that out. And then how'd it get from Odin's treasure room to Fury's possession?

I loved the Avengers teaser trailer at the end. I really feel like Marvel is 3 out of 5 for excellent movies and the two I leave out (IM2 and Hulk) are really good but I hate Hulk and IM2 gets alot of criticism.

Spoiler:

The cosmic cube didn't go to Odin's treasure room. It fell into the bottom of the ocean. Are you confusing the frost giant's cube with the cosmic cube?

 

[Jaycepticon]

Spoiler:

Do you think the way the cube went from Earth to Odin's treasure room will be explain in Avengers? I spent a little too much of the movie trying to figure that out. And then how'd it get from Odin's treasure room to Fury's possession?

Spoiler:

I don't think the cube was ever in Odin's treasure room in Thor's movie unless I missed something? And I believe it was simply explained in the beginning of the movie that Odin just left it behind for whatever reason

 

[jye4ever]

Spoiler:

I don't think the cube was ever in Odin's treasure room in Thor's movie unless I missed something? And I believe it was simply explained in the beginning of the movie that Odin just left it behind for whatever reason

I was also going to ask about this.......I keep hearing that the CC was indeed in Thor.....but where

My wife keeps saying that it was the Frost Giant's power cube source.

I don't think so.

Man, pretty soon i'm going to wear out The Mike button

 

[Jaycepticon]

yeah, the first mention and showing of the CC (in the movie-verse) was only in Thor's after credits scene with Loki

 

[jye4ever]

yeah, the first mention and showing of the CC (in the movie-verse) was only in Thor's after credits scene with Loki

Correct, that I knew. :

I had heard that it was in his vault.....it couldn't be because it's on earth.

 

[DiFabio]

I saw this last night. Being Saturday night, the theater was needless to say FILLED. I'm glad we got their as early as we did.

Anyway, I loved every minute of it. Evans as Captain America was fantastic, and I really enjoyed Weaving as Red Skull. It was interesting how pleasant the crowd was too. In my experience they're either extremely quiet or extremely annoying and rude. The audience last night was the perfect audience and showed emotions at the right parts. You could tell everyone was loving it.

The origin was done very well. In fact, it was my favorite part of the movie. Oh and who didn't love the USO scene and all those great montage scenes? I loved the fact that it was a "period piece" and had the original Raiders action/adventure vibe to it.

The only gripe I have is THE AVENGERS. Yeah, I could have done without any mention of Avengers or Samuel Jackson or any of that. The movie could have stood on it's own. I much preferred Captain America's exploits as opposed to all the little hints and mentions of the Avengers, especially at the end. Captain America doesn't seem like the type that would join such a team going by this film, so it will be interesting to see him as team leader in the Avengers.

With that said, I'd prefer "Captain America 2" rather than the Avengers. I think you could make an excellent, solo film about how Captain America deals with the present time, especially considering how much America has changed . . . for the worse. Also see his reaction to how elderly or deceased all his friends and allies are.

Oh and, forgive me but I only saw it once so far,

Spoiler:

Is Red Skull and Bucky dead?

 

[The Mike]

Spoiler:

You are supposed to believe Bucky is...from what I saw it looks like Red Skull was actually teleported

 

[Agent0028]

Spoiler:

The cosmic cube didn't go to Odin's treasure room. It fell into the bottom of the ocean. Are you confusing the frost giant's cube with the cosmic cube?

Spoiler:

I don't think the cube was ever in Odin's treasure room in Thor's movie unless I missed something? And I believe it was simply explained in the beginning of the movie that Odin just left it behind for whatever reason

yeah, the first mention and showing of the CC (in the movie-verse) was only in Thor's after credits scene with Loki

Correct, that I knew. :

I had heard that it was in his vault.....it couldn't be because it's on earth.

There was a scene where there was a cube on a pedestool. I don't remember what part. Maybe I misinterpreted what was there, or maybe its like Cap's shield in IM and just there as an Easter egg in a standalone movie.

 

[The Mike]

The Cosmic Cube is never in Odin's actual treasure room. The Frost Giant's cube is The Casket of Ancient Winters. In the comics Jarvis has it and it keeps him growing younger.

Spoiler:

The Cosmic Cube is found at the bottom of the ocean by Howard Stark and if you look at Iron Man 2 when Tony is going through the notebook Howard Stark refers to it as the "hypercube", therefore alluding to the idea that Stark Industries got it's major push from using this to power it's first inventions. Also if you look at the Captain America Stark Industries example of a flying car, it's the same things that are seen underneath the Helicarriers in the comics. That connects Howard Stark with his work in SHIELD as referenced by Nick Fury in Iron Man 2.

 

[Jaycepticon]

There was a scene where there was a cube on a pedestool. I don't remember what part. Maybe I misinterpreted what was there, or maybe its like Cap's shield in IM and just there as an Easter egg in a standalone movie.

The only cube on a pedestal was that Frost Giant Freezing cube or whatever it's name is, these were the only other things they put in Odin's chamber

 

[The Mike]

Eternal Flame (top, left) - Mystical flame that cannot be extinguished. It was stolen from Surtur by Odin, Vili, and Ve Borson at the dawn of time so that Surtur could not light his sword and bring about Ragnarok.

Infinity Gauntlet (right) - The Infinity Gauntlet was designed to hold six of the 'soul gems', better known as the Infinity Gems. When used in combination their already impressive powers made the wearer nearly invincible.

Warlock's Eye (bottom, center) - A powerful, mystical weapon used unsuccessfully against Odin, Thor and the Warriors Three during an invasion of Asgard.

Orb of Agamotto (top,left center) - A scrying crystal ball used by Doctor Strange for clairvoyance. It has been known to open gateways between dimensions

Tablet of Life & Time (top, right center) - On the tablet was a biochemical formula for a serum, the so-called Lifeline Formula, which could rejuvinate, heal and grant its user the chance to reach the full evolutionary potential of its race turning the user into an immortal near omnipotent being

 

[Agent0028]

The Cosmic Cube is never in Odin's actual treasure room. The Frost Giant's cube is The Casket of Ancient Winters. In the comics Jarvis has it and it keeps him growing younger.

Spoiler:

The Cosmic Cube is found at the bottom of the ocean by Howard Stark and if you look at Iron Man 2 when Tony is going through the notebook Howard Stark refers to it as the "hypercube", therefore alluding to the idea that Stark Industries got it's major push from using this to power it's first inventions. Also if you look at the Captain America Stark Industries example of a flying car, it's the same things that are seen underneath the Helicarriers in the comics. That connects Howard Stark with his work in SHIELD as referenced by Nick Fury in Iron Man 2.

Is the Frost Giant's cube the one that Odin stole from them or is it something else? Maybe I'm nuts but I swear I saw a little clear cube on a pedestool in the treasure room... I remember seeing it on my first viewing and getting excited before even seeing it in the post credits...

 

[Jaycepticon]

hey Mike, does that Frost Giant Freezing Cube thing have an actual name or really exist in the comics?

 

[The Mike]

Is the Frost Giant's cube the one that Odin stole from them or is it something else?

The Frost Giant's cube IS the Cask of Ancient Winters

hey Mike, does that Frost Giant Freezing Cube thing have an actual name or really exist in the comics?

It does exist in the comics as the Cask of Ancient Winters.

 

[Agent0028]

Okay, I'm either insane, hallucinating during movies, or I'm the only who saw it because I knew I saw the cosmic cube in the treasure room, but now y'all have me doubting myself...