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potato said:
what do you think about 5G towers?
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I am no expert on the subject but did read up on it some years back. 5G gets easily absorbed by something as simple as a wall. My router is only maybe 20feet from my pc but because there are a couple walls between the 5G signal is weak as heck. Your skin can absorb 5G waves thus blocking them from penetrating further, protecting your internal organs too. There is the possibility of damage to skin cells but really the plausible effect is heat from what I recall reading. You could conceivably get some heating effects if you are right next to the transmitters on 5G towers but in practice they are positioned high and away far enough that you will not get any effects on your health. There is obviously room for discoveries of health effects to be made but as of last I read there is no evidence 5G has any negative health impacts.
But if you wanna be safe, just use wifi routers without 5G and smart phones that aren't 5G enabled.

As for the covid 5G conspiracies.... yeah they are completely bonkers and no evidence to back them up.

Perhaps I should turn the question back to you: what do you think of 5G towers??
 
jaztermareal said:
I am no expert on the subject but did read up on it some years back. 5G gets easily absorbed by something as simple as a wall. My router is only maybe 20feet from my pc but because there are a couple walls between the 5G signal is weak as heck. Your skin can absorb 5G waves thus blocking them from penetrating further, protecting your internal organs too. There is the possibility of damage to skin cells but really the plausible effect is heat from what I recall reading. You could conceivably get some heating effects if you are right next to the transmitters on 5G towers but in practice they are positioned high and away far enough that you will not get any effects on your health. There is obviously room for discoveries of health effects to be made but as of last I read there is no evidence 5G has any negative health impacts.
But if you wanna be safe, just use wifi routers without 5G and smart phones that aren't 5G enabled.

As for the covid 5G conspiracies.... yeah they are completely bonkers and no evidence to back them up.

Perhaps I should turn the question back to you: what do you think of 5G towers??
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but your router isnt sending 5G signal to your pc. 5G is only between the tower and the receiver.

after what i witness in Kingsmen and reading up how simple sound frequencies can alter a humans current mood or mental state i think it is possible to weaponize radio signals. 5G just a tool allowing them to slip in such tech without people noticing or suspecting, just like how we can slip in toxic stuffs in mrna vaccine when we don't actually need to.
 
potato said:
but your router isnt sending 5G signal to your pc. 5G is only between the tower and the receiver.

after what i witness in Kingsmen and reading up how simple sound frequencies can alter a humans current mood or mental state i think it is possible to weaponize radio signals. 5G just a tool allowing them to slip in such tech without people noticing or suspecting, just like how we can slip in toxic stuffs in mrna vaccine when we don't actually need to.
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yes you are right, the router is using 5GHz frequency while 5G simply refers to 5th generation and covers low band through high band mm waves (mostly low-mid, high is usually only used in dense metropolitan areas due to the amount of network traffic) which are nothing new. 5GHz and the high band millimeter wave 5G signals are similar in that they are easily blocked by things like walls. The paranoia over 5G is largely the same nonsense as that of the folk who thought that barcodes were the biblically prophesized mark of the devil.
 
jaztermareal said:
yes you are right, the router is using 5GHz frequency while 5G simply refers to 5th generation and covers low band through high band mm waves (mostly low-mid, high is usually only used in dense metropolitan areas due to the amount of network traffic) which are nothing new. 5GHz and the high band millimeter wave 5G signals are similar in that they are easily blocked by things like walls. The paranoia over 5G is largely the same nonsense as that of the folk who thought that barcodes were the biblically prophesized mark of the devil.
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https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8580522/#__ffn_sectitle
 
Labeling something a “conspiracy theory” has become a lazy pejorative. Yes some theories are pretty out there but let’s also remember that just a few years ago the lab leak hypothesis was labeled a “conspiracy theory” and it has now been accepted as the most likely scenario for for the origin of Covid 19.

My biggest issue with the pandemic is lack of interest in the origin of the virus.

Even if we grant the most charitable account that the leak was unintentional we’re still left with crucial questions that our so called “News” organizations have zero interest in investigating.

There is clear evidence that the US government was funding gain of function research, Anthony Fauci is on record defending this research even with the risk of lab leaks. We now have a real world case where millions of people died because of a leaked virus.

In a sane world everyone would coalesce around the idea that we must stop this type of dangerous research. Instead our media and politicians have just ignored this, So of course there’s going to be another pandemic because we have irresponsible government entities doing dangerous research and the entities (our so called “News” media) that are supposed to keep the public informed and keep those powers in check are either asleep at the wheel or complicit in it.
 
Rui Ram said:
Labeling something a “conspiracy theory” has become a lazy pejorative. Yes some theories are pretty out there but let’s also remember that just a few years ago the lab leak hypothesis was labeled a “conspiracy theory” and it has now been accepted as the most likely scenario for for the origin of Covid 19.

My biggest issue with the pandemic is lack of interest in the origin of the virus.

Even if we grant the most charitable account that the leak was unintentional we’re still left with crucial questions that our so called “News” organizations have zero interest in investigating.

There is clear evidence that the US government was funding gain of function research, Anthony Fauci is on record defending this research even with the risk of lab leaks. We now have a real world case where millions of people died because of a leaked virus.

In a sane world everyone would coalesce around the idea that we must stop this type of dangerous research. Instead our media and politicians have just ignored this, So of course there’s going to be another pandemic because we have irresponsible government entities doing dangerous research and the entities (our so called “News” media) that are supposed to keep the public informed and keep those powers in check are either asleep at the wheel or complicit in it.
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I think the difference being that lab leak should never have been lumped in with crazy out there stuff such as microchips in vaccines etc. The evidence for natural spillover was lacking right from the beginning while lab leak had a lot of evidence for it right off the bat. It was bizarre to see media organisations and even governments try to label it conspiracy nonsense, and even crazier that people accepted that.

Right now another one that will also be looked at differently in the near future is covid jab causing widespread negative effects. That is another where evidence has been building and there were warnings right from the start.


2020 (along with the couple years since) was definitely the year that the waters were muddied and a number of conspiracies were confirmed. People who were against crazy conspiracy misinformation were suddenly being called conspiracy nuts while the institutions that were once trusted became known as being very much crooked and untrustworthy. The corruption within the WHO had for so many years been ignored but became clear to see. The secretive shifting of dangerous banned research and funds from USA to places like China came to light in the publics eye while the snap of many governments to authoritarianism suddenly showed people just how easily their freedoms could be stripped from and how eager their leaders were to do so.

It has been a roller coaster ride.
 
Rui Ram said:
Labeling something a “conspiracy theory” has become a lazy pejorative. Yes some theories are pretty out there but let’s also remember that just a few years ago the lab leak hypothesis was labeled a “conspiracy theory” and it has now been accepted as the most likely scenario for for the origin of Covid 19.

My biggest issue with the pandemic is lack of interest in the origin of the virus.

Even if we grant the most charitable account that the leak was unintentional we’re still left with crucial questions that our so called “News” organizations have zero interest in investigating.

There is clear evidence that the US government was funding gain of function research, Anthony Fauci is on record defending this research even with the risk of lab leaks. We now have a real world case where millions of people died because of a leaked virus.

In a sane world everyone would coalesce around the idea that we must stop this type of dangerous research. Instead our media and politicians have just ignored this, So of course there’s going to be another pandemic because we have irresponsible government entities doing dangerous research and the entities (our so called “News” media) that are supposed to keep the public informed and keep those powers in check are either asleep at the wheel or complicit in it.
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during wwi and wwii, most people werent concerned about the origins of the war nor the reason, all we knew was hey our nation or allies being invaded let us go to war. only after the war years later that we started to look up the reasons the wars were triggered, like many years later.

currently we still at the recovery stage of covid19
 
jaztermareal said:
I think the difference being that lab leak should never have been lumped in with crazy out there stuff such as microchips in vaccines etc. The evidence for natural spillover was lacking right from the beginning while lab leak had a lot of evidence for it right off the bat. It was bizarre to see media organisations and even governments try to label it conspiracy nonsense, and even crazier that people accepted that.

Right now another one that will also be looked at differently in the near future is covid jab causing widespread negative effects. That is another where evidence has been building and there were warnings right from the start.


2020 (along with the couple years since) was definitely the year that the waters were muddied and a number of conspiracies were confirmed. People who were against crazy conspiracy misinformation were suddenly being called conspiracy nuts while the institutions that were once trusted became known as being very much crooked and untrustworthy. The corruption within the WHO had for so many years been ignored but became clear to see. The secretive shifting of dangerous banned research and funds from USA to places like China came to light in the publics eye while the snap of many governments to authoritarianism suddenly showed people just how easily their freedoms could be stripped from and how eager their leaders were to do so.

It has been a roller coaster ride.
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Say what you want but we love Truedo.
 
At this point I’m willing to hear out any so called “conspiracy theory”. Even the crazy ones don’t seem as crazy as they did before.

A decade ago I thought there was little chance the CIA killed JFK but now I’m pretty sure they did. The idea that powerful elites got together and sexually assaulted kids was also pretty “out there” but now appears to be true.

While i don’t think they’re currently microchipping vaccines it’d be foolish to think that with nanotechnology this isn’t on the table in the future:

https://www.nature.com/articles/s43586-023-00246-7
 
jaztermareal said:
I think the difference being that lab leak should never have been lumped in with crazy out there stuff such as microchips in vaccines etc. The evidence for natural spillover was lacking right from the beginning while lab leak had a lot of evidence for it right off the bat. It was bizarre to see media organisations and even governments try to label it conspiracy nonsense, and even crazier that people accepted that.

Right now another one that will also be looked at differently in the near future is covid jab causing widespread negative effects. That is another where evidence has been building and there were warnings right from the start.


2020 (along with the couple years since) was definitely the year that the waters were muddied and a number of conspiracies were confirmed. People who were against crazy conspiracy misinformation were suddenly being called conspiracy nuts while the institutions that were once trusted became known as being very much crooked and untrustworthy. The corruption within the WHO had for so many years been ignored but became clear to see. The secretive shifting of dangerous banned research and funds from USA to places like China came to light in the publics eye while the snap of many governments to authoritarianism suddenly showed people just how easily their freedoms could be stripped from and how eager their leaders were to do so.

It has been a roller coaster ride.
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Good post.
You can easily fall into a rabbit hole analyzing what occurred. The corruption, or at the very least, shadow influence impacts beyond the WHO. Quite frankly I have zero confidence in government officials after this fiasco. The lab leak theory was the most believable out of all the other assumptions/fabrications they came up with. Bottom-line, no one wants to hold China accountable.

I loath their systematic and deliberate muzzling of scientific debate, I loath their embrace of mass censorship, I loath their vilification of fellow citizens and encouraging division, I loath their idiotic and hurtful policies imposed on school children forcing day long mask wearing while pompous politicians held themselves above their own mandates, and I loath the abandonment of the pursuit of the truth by our so called leaders.

Do they deserve to be listened to next go around? No.

potato said:
Say what you want but we love Truedo.
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Who’s “we”? Show me a national poll that shows them in the lead.
 
Rui Ram said:
At this point I’m willing to hear out any so called “conspiracy theory”. Even the crazy ones don’t seem as crazy as they did before.

A decade ago I thought there was little chance the CIA killed JFK but now I’m pretty sure they did. The idea that powerful elites got together and sexually assaulted kids was also pretty “out there” but now appears to be true.

While i don’t think they’re currently microchipping vaccines it’d be foolish to think that with nanotechnology this isn’t on the table in the future:

https://www.nature.com/articles/s43586-023-00246-7
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An open mind is good, but as the saying goes, not so open your brain falls out.

Many things are conceivably possible. Warp drives even time travel, the question is A: are they possible now and B: are they probable.

The kind of nano tech we are capable of currently is so simple it can barely be called so. Even as tech progresses in the future people always forget that reality is an ultra complex system, especially body function.

Most medicines that are developed show great results in vitro for example but once they test them in vivo they do not work as the body with all its functions is insanely complex.

There are just so many variables at play. That makes something like remote activated nano chips in vaccines more of a pipe dream but it is also why I am cautious of MRNA vaccines. The complexity of human biology means there are hundreds of ways it could potentially go wrong due to thousands of variables, most of which have not been tested for and the effects of which may take decades to present.

The other factor for filtering bonkers conspiracy theories from potentially genuine ones is practicality. If the idea requires super expensive, scifi tech to be deployed (not to mention for powers involved to be super competent) and for tens of thousands of independent researchers (not to mention enemy nations) to stay quiet and not blow the whistle it probably isn't true. The idea that Covid doesn't actually exist was a good example of that. It definitely exists. However on other hand if a conspiracy involves people just covering their own asses and there are people who speak up it is more likely to be true, like Fauci moving banned GOF research to China and funding it knowing the dangers and attempting to cover up the connection to and origin of a pandemic.Self interest and easiest methods to that are the usual drivers of all human behavior and like the average mid level manager we all know most politicians are just as fallible and incompetent as anyone else, they simply have access to means most don't.

Most of the time (not every time) Hanlon's razor applies (it is usually incompetence rather than malice). This applies to how, for example, politicians implemented lockdowns at the beginning. They didn't understand how viruses spread due to being scientifically illiterate and so looked at what China was doing for ideas. They didn't know which experts were actually experts (again due to scientific illiteracy) and used what they know (political plays) to choose who to listen to rather than base decisions on evidence. They picked the easiest one size fits all solution whether it was actually backed by science or not and implemented it far too late to be effective. This only turned into malice once they realized they could achieve other political targets they wanted using the situation as an excuse. An example of such malice would be UK gov moving Covid patients into elderly care homes knowing full well that Covid would then spread like wildfire through the vulnerable residents thus killing off a net drain "accidentally".

The other rule to apply is Occam's razor: the simplest explanation (the one that does not require bending of physics/ massive conspiracies where millions do not let slip the secret/ super secret scifi tech etc) is most likely the correct one. That is what makes "Epstein didn't Kill himself" plausible, the number of coincidences needed for it to truly be suicide are many. It is what makes 5G activated nanotech delivered in vaccines to depopulate the world completely implausible
 
potato said:
Before you shrug off any conspiracies, ask yourself, is god real? 🤔
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No one knows, but we can look at claims of God such as old texts and see the internal inconsistencies that indicate the stories are man made and so can be dismissed. I mean, the average Christian is in some ways 99.99% atheist in that he does not believe in any of the thousands of gods put forward and will argue that evidence of those gods is insufficient to believe in them, so what is adding but one more god to the list whose existence has insufficient evidence.

I do think that being raised to believe in a god does have a negative impact on an individuals ability to evaluate reality due to the requirement of believing in things for which there is no evidence, things that defy all known laws of physics very often. If ones mind is trained from an early age to accept nonsense due to it being part of the religion one was born into while disbelieving things that are actually supported by evidence (such as the fossil record), that individual is more likely to believe any old nonsense so long as it aligns with their worldview.

In fact, religious thinking is I think why "woke" intersectional ideology is so rampant. People raised to think religiously once they leave their religion (in the west it was Christianity mostly) are often unable to think fully for themselves and require a belief system that prescribes a moral code, so they cling to something else. That something else is the religion of intersectionality with its own moral code, holy texts, priests and sins (as well as banned texts I should add). Such people can only think in black and white terms.


I think people who do not have religious ways of thinking are less likely to fall victim to believing in crazy things in general, be it that the earth is flat or that being overweight has nothing to do with diebetes.... thinking and belief systems based on evidence is far less likely to result in people thinking and behaving in bonkers ways.
 
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potato said:
Before you shrug off any conspiracies, ask yourself, is god real? 🤔
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Yes!

Guns, Ammo (ammo most important) Everyone should have a little food or water saved up. But easier said than done. You can almost feel something big is coming, the USA is finished. (what goes up must come down) I could go on forever, am i prepared? I guess, but it will only get so far.

Also Pizzagate is real..and i'm out!
 
jaztermareal said:
No one knows, but we can look at claims of God such as old texts and see the internal inconsistencies that indicate the stories are man made and so can be dismissed. I mean, the average Christian is in some ways 99.99% atheist in that he does not believe in any of the thousands of gods put forward and will argue that evidence of those gods is insufficient to believe in them, so what is adding but one more god to the list whose existence has insufficient evidence.

I do think that being raised to believe in a god does have a negative impact on an individuals ability to evaluate reality due to the requirement of believing in things for which there is no evidence, things that defy all known laws of physics very often. If ones mind is trained from an early age to accept nonsense due to it being part of the religion one was born into while disbelieving things that are actually supported by evidence (such as the fossil record), that individual is more likely to believe any old nonsense so long as it aligns with their worldview.

In fact, religious thinking is I think why "woke" intersectional ideology is so rampant. People raised to think religiously once they leave their religion (in the west it was Christianity mostly) are often unable to think fully for themselves and require a belief system that prescribes a moral code, so they cling to something else. That something else is the religion of intersectionality with its own moral code, holy texts, priests and sins (as well as banned texts I should add). Such people can only think in black and white terms.


I think people who do not have religious ways of thinking are less likely to fall victim to believing in crazy things in general, be it that the earth is flat or that being overweight has nothing to do with diebetes.... thinking and belief systems based on evidence is far less likely to result in people thinking and behaving in bonkers ways.
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but if we were in a matrix world defining logic is possible like the video game characters. question is do you accept the fact it is possible we are living in matrix like world? 🤔
 
potato said:
but if we were in a matrix world defining logic is possible like the video game characters. question is do you accept the fact it is possible we are living in matrix like world? 🤔
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If we were to assume we were living in a simulation, we would be simulations ourselves, and so this is the only reality we would be able to experience or make sense of, any attempt to test if reality is real could be patched to prevent us knowing, so therefore whether it is a simulation or not is meaningless. The result is the same, we can only work to improve the reality we are in, real or not. God (if one exists) does not seem interested in helping out or ending the needless suffering of millions so is not a factor. The question really is: what can you do to improve the world around you.
 
Lejuan said:
Before you ask yourself "is god real", ask yourself, "what do I mean by god"?
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to me just someone/something that has knowledge and powers beyond human abilities and can control almost anything.

you can call someone like omniman god, you can call someone like Son Goku god among gods, you can call some alien with super advance tech god, if they were real. To me God can be relative. Of course the most powerful one will be THE GOD.

fun facts. in india it is common that anyone has the freedom to choose their own god, can be literally anything, from a famous celebrity, to your local leader, to even animals, and worship them as god.

this is why theres so many holyman with big followers.
 

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