1/6 Hot Toys - MMS - Iron Man 2 - Mark VI Collectible Figure (Reissue)

[Skillerwhale]

Looks like a different paint job, the whole figure looks pristine and the silver is darker and looks to be more reflective. What I'd like to know is why do re-issues for one market? Is it because they just want to hype up the new store, did mainland china somehow have a difficult time getting the originals and/or is there a high demand there on the secondary market or is it to make some quick money to pay for R&D in the near future?

Yes, yes, yes, and definitely no.

 

[Plastic Bateman]

So if I'm understanding this correctly:

- Reissue Mark VI that will only be available for a very limited time at one shop in Shanghai
- Will cost a small fortune on the aftermarket
- Includes none of the alternate parts or accessories from the original release
- No diorama base
- Apparently they cut out the wrist laser, shoulder rocket and hip flare parts too

Why would anyone in their right mind buy this over a mint original Mark VI, considering it's likely going to be just as expensive?

 

[Jaymas]

So if I'm understanding this correctly:

- Reissue Mark VI that will only be available for a very limited time at one shop in Shanghai
- Will cost a small fortune on the aftermarket
- Includes none of the alternate parts or accessories from the original release
- No diorama base
- Apparently they cut out the wrist laser, shoulder rocket and hip flare parts too

Why would anyone in their right mind buy this over a mint original Mark VI, considering it's likely going to be just as expensive?

I'm guessing the target audience really are those who visit the local store. I don't see the point in buying it myself if I have to go through an aftermarket with an inflated price either. I am not sure who will want that or how this as a potential after market item will effect the original, but I am okay with them making this as an in store exclusive for their Shanghai store. It may not make sense for us outside China to try and get this, but that doesn't mean it doesn't make sense for Hot Toys to do a small run for one of their local stores.

 

[Motuxmen]

So if I'm understanding this correctly:

- Reissue Mark VI that will only be available for a very limited time at one shop in Shanghai
- Will cost a small fortune on the aftermarket
- Includes none of the alternate parts or accessories from the original release
- No diorama base
- Apparently they cut out the wrist laser, shoulder rocket and hip flare parts too

Why would anyone in their right mind buy this over a mint original Mark VI, considering it's likely going to be just as expensive?

Because the people it's marketed to will be paying about 200usd. Lots of people don't care about the bd parts or a larger base.

It won't be anywhere near as expensive to those whom hot toys is targeting.

 

[kiwiatlarge]

There will be those who will buy it on evil-bay, complain about the price on evil-bay, and act like it was mandatory that they buy it. I don't get it. Just because it is there, does not mean you have to have it. I don't understand the thinking of some toy buyers. It's like each month when a Sideshow monthly code comes out, some people feel compelled to use it.. I just don't understand that.

 

[Sweet Rabbit]

My favorite armor

 

[TimothyR]

There will be those who will buy it on evil-bay, complain about the price on evil-bay, and act like it was mandatory that they buy it. I don't get it. Just because it is there, does not mean you have to have it. I don't understand the thinking of some toy buyers. It's like each month when a Sideshow monthly code comes out, some people feel compelled to use it.. I just don't understand that.

Some people want certain figures and just have to bite the bullet to own them.. What's so hard to understand?

I don't understand why you use the term "evil-bay".. I've never had a problem using eBay and have gotten some pretty great deals.

 

[Motuxmen]

Some people want certain figures and just have to bite the bullet to own them.. What's so hard to understand?

I don't understand why you use the term "evil-bay".. I've never had a problem using eBay and have gotten some pretty great deals.

It's the whining about it. And evil-bay is just a joke term.

 

[Starfleet Captain]

I ask this before in a diff thread, but I will ask again here, what are the odds that the IM2 (IM3) Hall of Armor (not the foam HPP Ver) will get reissued as well?

 

[Hologram AI]

I ask this before in a diff thread, but I will ask again here, what are the odds that the IM2 (IM3) Hall of Armor (not the foam HPP Ver) will get reissued as well?

No one but Hot Toys knows. I doubt they'll reissue that but who honestly knows with all the reissuing they're doing right now.

The shipping on those things were insane. I haven't displayed my Set of 4 in a long time due to spacing. Been wanting to sell them but again, shipping on the HoA was a pain in the ass.

 

[kiwiatlarge]

Some people want certain figures and just have to bite the bullet to own them.. What's so hard to understand?

I don't understand why you use the term "evil-bay".. I've never had a problem using eBay and have gotten some pretty great deals.

Just a joke. Based on the hobbyist black-spot that is the online profiteer/scalper. Buying bulk items of limited availability before genuinely interested owners can get them, and selling them for huge profit. I've never used ebay, and have no real intention of ever doing so. I've only used "Trade Me" a couple of times using my mrs' account. (Kimi will know what Trade Me is. Like ebay, but nationalised to us and smaller)

I still stand by my point. If the figure releases for say the equivalent of 200US in China, but is listed on ebay for 500 before it's even available for sale. No-one is forcing anyone to buy them. I want no out-of-stock sixth scale figure more than the original Loki, but I wouldn't buy it out of pure principal. It's not a matter of being able to afford it or not. I can, many times over and some without even thinking about going into debt.

As for wanting certain figures. There will be plenty of people like me who missed out on the original wave of the original core suits. So the release of the diecast Mark III is music to our ears, so I can understand the desire, even when the prices are inflated too high. But there are still people who already own the old suits, are upset that these new 'rereleases' are inferior, upset that they'll cost a lot more on ebay, yet are still compelled to buy them... That I don't get.

 

[Skillerwhale]

Because the people it's marketed to will be paying about 200usd. Lots of people don't care about the bd parts or a larger base.

It won't be anywhere near as expensive to those whom hot toys is targeting.

I'd be over the moon if these released in my hometown at that price. And to be honest, I'd be picking up a few of each to re-sell at a modest profit. I have a feeling the whole reason these are pared down versions is so the international crowd who can't grab these doesn't whine too loudly about it.

 

[Motuxmen]

I'd be over the moon if these released in my hometown at that price. And to be honest, I'd be picking up a few of each to re-sell at a modest profit. I have a feeling the whole reason these are pared down versions is so the international crowd who can't grab these doesn't whine too loudly about it.

That's pretty much what Howard said at the soft opening. There where hundreds of people there but very few non locals. And when asked he said pretty much that.

 

[Bjjer]

Just a joke. Based on the hobbyist black-spot that is the online profiteer/scalper. Buying bulk items of limited availability before genuinely interested owners can get them, and selling them for huge profit. I've never used ebay, and have no real intention of ever doing so. I've only used "Trade Me" a couple of times using my mrs' account. (Kimi will know what Trade Me is. Like ebay, but nationalised to us and smaller)

I still stand by my point. If the figure releases for say the equivalent of 200US in China, but is listed on ebay for 500 before it's even available for sale. No-one is forcing anyone to buy them. I want no out-of-stock sixth scale figure more than the original Loki, but I wouldn't buy it out of pure principal. It's not a matter of being able to afford it or not. I can, many times over and some without even thinking about going into debt.

As for wanting certain figures. There will be plenty of people like me who missed out on the original wave of the original core suits. So the release of the diecast Mark III is music to our ears, so I can understand the desire, even when the prices are inflated too high. But there are still people who already own the old suits, are upset that these new 'rereleases' are inferior, upset that they'll cost a lot more on ebay, yet are still compelled to buy them... That I don't get.

I agree with new in stock items but out of print items do tend to increase in price, especially if popular. One can't really expect to buy an old popular item for retail price. Buying out of principle is one thing but I wouldn't call that scalping, Avengers Loki is going on 5 years old.

 

[kiwiatlarge]

I agree with new in stock items but out of print items do tend to increase in price, especially if popular. One can't really expect to buy an old popular item for retail price. Buying out of principle is one thing but I wouldn't call that scalping.

Yeah I'd agree there. If old items didn't have some value increase when collected intelligently, then a sizeable chunk of collectors wouldn't be doing it in the first place.

Scalping certainly applies to new stock items though. If I miss out on tickets to a Fleetwood Mac concert, and then see them for private sale online within an hour for 3-400% value increase, and the concert is still 10 months away, that grinds my gears.

 

[Starfleet Captain]

HT is reissuing water-downed versions of IV, VI & XLII as entry level exclusives for their customers at the Shanghai Disneytown store. That's understandable. Just like Bandai, who has rotating limited Gunplas for their Odaiba, Tokyo location - Gundam Front. They are copying Bandai tactics to the t...

 

[rocbolt]

1/4 scale or nothing on the original 7 armors

 

[JamesXGZ]

Maybe we could try looking at it from another perspective.

Collectors who have missed the classic armors wave, and unwilling to pay exorbitant prices on eBay, this re-issue kind of controls the prices for the original 7, like how TWS Nick Fury made AVG1 Nick Fury go down in price and demand.

Same applies for Midas. Collectors can now go for whichever version they prefer more, as the pricing for V1.0 goes down. No point arguing which is better.

Shanghai 'exclusives' with prices tagged too high on eBay? Get the v1.0s after price drops.
Re-issues deter scalpers in a way.

 

[DioramaMaker]

If the suitcase armor was reissued I would be interested.

 

[SoGS]

If the suitcase armor was reissued I would be interested.

It probably wouldn't come with the suitcase.