Sideshow 1/6 C-3PO

[WWEJedi]

No. you are not relating correctly. Everything you are saying is COSMETIC. Not being able to grip and make a fist is FUNCTIONAL. It is a build flaw. The other things you speak of are not part of the functional aspects of a house. If you slop paint on a wall or pop a nail it is easily remedied. Think you are missing your own point.

I think you are missing the point I am trying to make. I was trying to be nice with that comparison, but I will be blunt. People complain about a toy not being perfect, when everything in there life is not perfect, mine included. From family and friends, to there cars and houses, from clothes and the checkbook. I just wonder what gap in there brain allows for constant multi week to month to year complaints in a toy, when they overlook all the other imperfections in there life. (maybe they don't?) I am even guilty of this on a certain level, not as extreme or often as some, but still. It is interesting to think about.

 

[JacktheRipper]

Love how he yanks off the head. Pages of people paranoid about handling their 3PO; don't grab the ears, pull from the neck.

 

[hokietwo]

I think you are missing the point I am trying to make. I was trying to be nice with that comparison, but I will be blunt. People complain about a toy not being perfect, when everything in there life is not perfect, mine included. From family and friends, to there cars and houses, from clothes and the checkbook. I just wonder what gap in there brain allows for constant multi week to month to year complaints in a toy, when they overlook all the other imperfections in there life. (maybe they don't?) I am even guilty of this on a certain level, not as extreme or often as some, but still. It is interesting to think about.

Well that's another discussion for another day. It's just best to keep those types of thoughts to ourselves and not let the keyboard type it out. Of all the outcomes outside of liking the figure most commentary is going to be negative no matter what.

-People are going to be furious because it is a bad design.
-People are going to be furious because they spent money on something that is a bad design.
-People going to be furious that others are being furious about the bad design.
-People will be furious that people are not furious enough with them about the bad design.

 

[WWEJedi]

Well that's another discussion for another day. It's just best to keep those types of thoughts to ourselves and not let the keyboard type it out. Of all the outcomes outside of liking the figure most commentary is going to be negative no matter what.

-People are going to be furious because it is a bad design.
-People are going to be furious because they spent money on something that is a bad design.
-People going to be furious that others are being furious about the bad design.
-People will be furious that people are not furious enough with them about the bad design.

I think everyone fits in those categories

 

[Wor-Gar]

-People going to be furious that others are being furious about the bad design.
-People will be furious that people are not furious enough with them about the bad design.

These two make me sad.

 

[hokietwo]

I think you are missing the point I am trying to make. I was trying to be nice with that comparison, but I will be blunt. People complain about a toy not being perfect, when everything in there life is not perfect, mine included. From family and friends, to there cars and houses, from clothes and the checkbook. I just wonder what gap in there brain allows for constant multi week to month to year complaints in a toy, when they overlook all the other imperfections in there life. (maybe they don't?) I am even guilty of this on a certain level, not as extreme or often as some, but still. It is interesting to think about.

repost sorry.

 

[Jaymas]

For those still complaining about the thumbs.....

I have a question for you.

Is every single square inch of your house/apartment absolutely perfect?

If the thumbs were going the correct direction the figure still wouldn't be perfect. I think it's unfair to make it sound like people are being picky because of the thumbs. I'm fine with everything except the thumbs, but that doesn't mean everything else is perfect. I'm forgiving the fact I think he's a tad too tall, the pistons too fragile, some parts were not separated cleanly in construction, and the weathering isn't the best. Still with these "faults" I think I'm happy with it. The Thumbs are on a different level though because it's such a stupid mistake for SS to make and visually thumbs going in the wrong direction tend to stand out more than the other "flaws". So again, complaining about the thumbs isn't about being some sort of unreasonable perfectionist.

 

[Lejuan]

For those still complaining about the thumbs.....

I have a question for you.

Is every single square inch of your house/apartment absolutely perfect?

that's a skewed metaphor.

I'd argue that the hands are, after the general sculpt and poseability, the most expressive component of a figure. That's why someone decided at the design stage that it'd be cool if the fingers were articulated. And it was one of the things that people remarked on when making early comparisons with the Tamashii figure - ie, articulated hands was a selling point. With a figure so limited in its articulation, the hands also provide a way to interact/play with the figure.

Yes, a house is far more expensive than a doll, but at around $230, this is a relatively expensive, bare-bones set. If you don't mind the thumbs being the way they are that's great, but I wouldn't put this in the 'nit-pick' category - something has gone very wrong in the production pipeline for it to turn out like this.

 

[Black Label Society]

I'm sorry but when are ya'll gonna learn to steer clear from SS? how many times are we going to go through this? i really think its time all the complaints get "i told you so" as responses. SS is bush league, yet you keep buying this nonsense. so really, who is to blame?

SS had a decent Scout Trooper. other than that, nothing recent comes to mind as worth the cost in terms of sixth scale SW figures go. and btw, you can add their 1/6th Quagmireman, I mean Superman to the list as well. buyer beware.

 

[Wor-Gar]

I'm forgiving the fact ... the pistons too fragile, some parts were not separated cleanly in construction, and the weathering isn't the best. Still with these "faults" I think I'm happy with it.

I agree with this -- these are still flaws but permissible except to the most OCD of collector. But the Thumbgate is definitely a different thing. It is a screw up -- a mistake -- in as much as Vader's stupid electronics or Jango's incorrect purple suit is a screw up.

If they reverse your figure's feet and it showed and you couldn't un-do it, wouldn't that be a screw up?

 

[Mandible]

For those still complaining about the thumbs.....

I have a question for you.

Is every single square inch of your house/apartment absolutely perfect?

What a stupid comparison. The thumbs look overtly ridiculous. At any angle, they look wrong.

If I ordered a premium kitchen and the plans were clearly "X" and they tried to pass off "Y" to me - you'd tell them to fix it and put it back to how the plans were.

As everyone has said - when we're paying HT prices, it better damn-well come with HT quality control... clearly it's not.

How silly of me... you like the prequels, so clearly you're happy to put up with "near enough's, good enough."

 

[Lejuan]

I'm sorry but when are ya'll gonna learn to steer clear from SS? how many times are we going to go through this? i really think its time all the complaints get "i told you so" as responses. SS is bush league, yet you keep buying this nonsense. so really, who is to blame?

SS had a decent Scout Trooper. other than that, nothing recent comes to mind as worth the cost in terms of sixth scale SW figures go. and btw, you can add their 1/6th Quagmireman, I mean Superman to the list as well. buyer beware.

I don't have too many Sideshow figures, but the ones I do have I've been happy with:

ANH Vader, stormtrooper, Tusken Raider and R2-D2. All had various issues, but look great on the shelf. And it's only recently that Sideshow pricing has made me question their value. Also, until HT entered the game, Sideshow was the only option for Star Wars characters (not counting Medicom's mostly underscaled 1/6 line).

Trying to pin the thumbs issue on buyers is a bit of a long bow

 

[Tom Day]

The QC is Sideshow's fault, but their luck is out as well; any problem would be bad, like the breaking pistons and chocolate weathering but there's something inherently ridiculous about the the thumb problem that somehow makes them look incompetent in a way that's laughable and pathetic. If the electronics hadn't worked, people could have pointed to HT's Vader and said, see HT can screw up too. But the thumbs thing is an all time classic.

 

[Johnny6666]

I'm sorry but when are ya'll gonna learn to steer clear from SS? how many times are we going to go through this? i really think its time all the complaints get "i told you so" as responses. SS is bush league, yet you keep buying this nonsense. so really, who is to blame?

Honestly, I have to agree. Although no 'fault' of the buyer, caveat emptor should be a sub-heading on every Sideshow item advertisement. If you're a regular on Freaks, and have been in the hobby for any length of time, you simply have to expect a compromised (and/or faulty) product from them at this point.

 

[jrhrlh]

Nope, and I've stopped trying. I'm afraid Ill break the head.

I had a hard time at first. Yes there is absolutely no way of getting it out without gabbing the head and ears. I found that if I pulled on it at a slight angle towardsthe front it came out easier. Look at it from the side and it looks like the neck hole is tilted forward. So if you go straight up it is actually jamming it.
See if this helps.

 

[Lejuan]

The QC is Sideshow's fault, but their luck is out as well; any problem would be bad, like the breaking pistons and chocolate weathering but there's something inherently ridiculous about the the thumb problem that somehow makes them look incompetent in a way that's laughable and pathetic. If the electronics hadn't worked, people could have pointed to HT's Vader and said, see HT can screw up too. But the thumbs thing is an all time classic.

In principle I'm more pissed off with Vader's electronics. Something stuffed up in the 3PO pipeline, but clearly the figure wasn't supposed to turn out like that.

Vader on the other hand, was designed to be exactly how it is, and it's something buyers are paying for. A crap feature that is no doubt the result of someone at HT trying to be clever by choosing to house the function in the figure itself. *******, really.

 

[Black Label Society]

I don't have too many Sideshow figures, but the ones I do have I've been happy with:

ANH Vader, stormtrooper, Tusken Raider and R2-D2. All had various issues, but look great on the shelf. And it's only recently that Sideshow pricing has made me question their value. Also, until HT entered the game, Sideshow was the only option for Star Wars characters (not counting Medicom's mostly underscaled 1/6 line).

Trying to pin the thumbs issue on buyers is a bit of a long bow

yeah I'm not pinning the thumbs on the buyer at all. I'm saying that if you buy from SS, don't get twisted sideways when they go all SS on you.

Its like Chris Rock says....

That tiger ain't go crazy; that tiger went tiger!

translation: when a tiger eats you, you shouldnt be surprised. you should expect it because thats what tigers do.

 

[Lejuan]

...
translation: when a tiger eats you, you shouldnt be surprised. you should expect it because thats what tigers do.

It's a very unexpected fault, that's for sure. I said I was happy with my Sideshow figures, but if I'm griping I'd say I've got a Vader that's too tall, a stormtrooper that can't stand up on its own, a Tusken Raider with stubby arms and rubber knees and an R2 with a seam on its dome. One by one those figures are being replaced with HT versions (zero chance of a HT Tusken Raider though).

 

[FlyAndFight]

Sorry, hokietwo...

"You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to hokietwo again."

 

[pixletwin]

It's a very unexpected fault, that's for sure. I said I was happy with my Sideshow figures, but if I'm griping I'd say I've got a Vader that's too tall, a stormtrooper that can't stand up on its own, a Tusken Raider with stubby arms and rubber knees and an R2 with a seam on its dome. One by one those figures are being replaced with HT versions (zero chance of a HT Tusken Raider though).

I never thought I would replace my custom Jedi Luke painted by Les Walker, but when HT makes the inevitable Jedi Luke, it will replace that piece. Kinda sad though.