Media Batman: Arkham Knight

[Josh-A-Tron]

Why in the world has this thread derailed into a Nolan/Burton feud? Can't we all just hate Schumacher and get on with our lives?

 

[Snake Plissken]

Bat nipples > throat cancer

 

[franpincho]

**** Nolan.

 

[Legion19]

Great, now this thread has officially devolved into an IGN comment thread...yay.

 

[Josh-A-Tron]

Tell you what. **** Nolan and **** Burton, neither got even close to right and if you think they did you're wearing blinders. So go watch BTAS and shut up.

 

[Golden_Boy]

The Season Pass is on sale on the PS4 for $29.99...still a bit up there, but that's better than $39.99! I may pick it up, though I'm hoping that future DLC lasts a bit longer than an hour (which is what most said Batgirl's lasted for.)

 

[DarkMagic]

What is the "right"/"true" Batman like?

If we say that the "true" Batman would never kill - then Burton's and Nolan's are both definitely not Batman (several comic versions fail too).

If we say that the "true" Batman would never retire or quit being Batman - then yes, Nolan's isn't Batman -- and neither is the BTAS version (he quit at least three times in his career) and neither is the Arkhamverse version. And yup - comic Batman quit a bunch of times too. Heck, he's currently retired and living a "normal" life right now!

The thing is, there is no "perfect" version of Batman to measure any other version against to say that they aren't doing it "right". When we boil right down to it, there's very few essential elements common to almost every version of Batman in almost all media: rich kid Bruce Wayne witnesses his parents murder, trains his mind and body to his peak and fights crime dressed as a bat. That's all that's needed, period. Everything else is personal preference, not some "right", or "more accurate" Batman -- because there is none -- just a spectrum of Batman versions. And even those "essential" details have some wiggle room and the story can still be very recognizable as a Batman story.

 

[Josh-A-Tron]

What is the "right"/"true" Batman like?

If we say that the "true" Batman would never kill - then Burton's and Nolan's are both definitely not Batman (several comic versions fail too).

If we say that the "true" Batman would never retire or quit being Batman - then yes, Nolan's isn't Batman -- and neither is the BTAS version (he quit at least three times in his career) and neither is the Arkhamverse version. And yup - comic Batman quit a bunch of times too. Heck, he's currently retired and living a "normal" life right now!

The thing is, there is no "perfect" version of Batman to measure any other version against to say that they aren't doing it "right". When we boil right down to it, there's very few essential elements common to almost every version of Batman in almost all media: rich kid Bruce Wayne witnesses his parents murder, trains his mind and body to his peak and fights crime dressed as a bat. That's all that's needed, period. Everything else is personal preference, not some "right", or "more accurate" Batman -- because there is none -- just a spectrum of Batman versions. And even those "essential" details have some wiggle room and the story can still be very recognizable as a Batman story.

True enough the original Batman from Kane and Finger did kill but that only lasted a short time. The 1930's and 40's were a bit different but since about 1948 on the canon Batman in the comics has avoided killing, not that it hasnt happened through his actions but intentionally he doesnt and hasnt for 65 years. The only people that think he should are usually people that want him to mimic the Punisher instead of Batman. Hes also the worlds greatest detective, rivaling the likes of Sherlock Holmes when written well. Hes a criminologist, pathologist and chemist all rolled into one. Hes also one of the greatest martial artists in the world, trained on multiple disciplines and mastering most of them. Hes obessed with his mission but also dreams of day he wont havevtp do it, so would he quit, yes, if he thought he could. These are just a few of the elements that make up the character that has spanned 75 years. So out of all the things the comics, well pre-new52, BTAS and these video games all have these elements and more which is why they are all so good. Its also why none of the movies have come close because they only get ot about half right and only half the time.

 

[GasparZizou]

Tell you what. **** Nolan and **** Burton, neither got even close to right and if you think they did you're wearing blinders. So go watch BTAS and shut up.

Although, if I am nitpicky, TAS Batman also had a few brain farts in Batman's characterization here and there, few and far between though, but it contributed a lot to the lore so it can be ignored.

Nolan also deserves some recognition cause he actually got a little closer to Batman than Burton, even if both are very incomplete iterations.

If you ask me, the only true well rounded and executed Batman outside the comics is the Arkham series Batman, that's it.

 

[batfan08]

**** all your ****. The only true Batman is Batman, and he's open to interpretation.

 

[GasparZizou]

I suppose you're right, the only "true" Batman (and any other character) is the one by its creators, each and every single one that came after is a re-interpretation of sorts.

Even if the 1st Batman was retarded

 

[batfan08]

Batman is love. Batman is life.

 

[GasparZizou]

At least it isn't Shrek

 

[Irvy]

I'm Batman

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[SAB]

There is only one Batman

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[Solidus]

I'm Batman

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"It's the freaking Bat!"

 

[Jameson Rook]

I got all the trophies recently. Cuz I'm bored.

 

[batfan08]

I got all the trophies recently. Cuz I'm bored.

Nice job, sir!

 

[batfan08]

I wonder if and/or how they'll do a TAS skin this time around? I know a lot of people want it, but the way this is all set up, with the Origins format of "suits," I'm definitely curious.

 

[sfa]

UGH are they actually serious with these tank battles on nightmare difficulty??? I got through all the main story ones (although it took me about 10 tries with the Ivy churchyard battle), but now I'm trying to complete all the side missions and some of these explosive device tank battles are beyond extreme. I'm talking 2 missile launching tanks locked onto you at the same time whilst also being targeted by an aerial drone, and if you do manage to destroy them then new ones replace them moments later. And you're trying to dodge about 4-6 lines of missile fire from random tanks too.

It's actually got to the point where I'm just not enjoying playing those battles now. I give up and turn the game off because it's making me rage, and that's never happened to me to this extent in an Arkham game before. I feel useless and annoyed that I can't complete NGP because of it. I'm finding myself angry at Rocksteady for creating something this difficult that's not even a core part of the Arkham franchise. I didn't like the tank battles at first as they felt disconnected from Batman (and the Arkham games) to me, but now I positively hate them.

I guess you could say I just need more practice and to keep at it, but honestly I feel as though I'll never have the skill to beat these, and certainly not the patience to keep trying them over and over until I do because they aren't enjoyable.