1/4 Hot Toys - QS005 - Avengers: AoU - Iron Man Mark 43 Collectible Figure

[Brainiac]

Hehe. 'Flaps'.

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[Cap'n Cook]

Excellent new sig by the way.

 

[Brainiac]

Excellent new sig by the way.

Thanks.... I'm waiting for the new TV spots to be released in HD then I might change it but idk I kinda like how its very disapproving....

 

[thepixelpusher]

No slam on the HT IM MK 43 1/6 scale, but with the 1/4 scale it looks like HT used the extra size to have more accurately scaled details like the rivets, shoulder pads, etc. 1/4 scale doesn't always mean better detail. Look at NECA and Play Imaginative. Though, HT is more expensive than those two you can see Hot Toys did put the money into the figure. The price of $545USD is a bit more than some of the larger static figures sold by Sideshow, but it includes electronics and articulation. This 1/4 IM includes a more detailed base like Sideshow does on the large static figures too.

Here's some comparisons noted on the product silhouettes.

 

[Motuxmen]

What are you using as reference to call the smaller shoulder pads more accurate?

And you put that there's a smaller leg gap on the 1/4. Do you think that's more accurate?

Just curious

 

[thepixelpusher]

Shoulder pads aren't smaller in proportion, just that they fit trimmer to the figure. At this point the trailers screen caps and promo photos are what I'm looking at. If you have some good reference please post it. The reference is pretty scarce right now.

Both the 1/6th and 1/4 scale are awesome. I'm just trying to define the differences between the two.

 

[Brainiac]

Great comparison photo
I think the color on the 1/4 is much better also, it looks like it does in the trailer, where as the 1/6 looks too glossy or bright. They did the same with Caps shield, too bright

 

[Motuxmen]

Shoulder pads aren't smaller in proportion, just that they fit trimmer to the figure. At this point the trailers screen caps and promo photos are what I'm looking at. If you have some good reference please post it. The reference is pretty scarce right now.

Both the 1/6th and 1/4 scale are awesome. I'm just trying to define the differences between the two.

You are spot on, source material is hard to get for sure. I've got some stuff. I'll dig around and see what I got.

The shoulders on the 1/4 are much less pronounced though. Going by the 42 they are way to small. But the 1/6 is a but to bulky. They could have streamlined the suit though so it's hard to say. Most everything I have is early production and early process. Things change, A LOT, during production. I know a lot of people think they go in with everythig done or mostly done and just shoot. But costumes and wardrobe and CG is all changing and evolving during production and post.

I think both scale suits are fantastic as well. But I've seen a lot of people saying the 1/4 is more accurate or lifelike then the 1/6. I'm not sure that's the case. If you like one over the other that's different. Not trying to criticize someone's preference or anything. Lol

And I was just curious what you where basing your thoughts on.

 

[Motuxmen]

Great comparison photo
I think the color on the 1/4 is much better also, it looks like it does in the trailer, where as the 1/6 looks too glossy or bright. They did the same with Caps shield, too bright

Have you seen the latest pics of caps shield? The figure one? I posted about it on the cap thread. It's been changed.

As for the paint on this...I think it's gloss on the movie suit. It may not read as smooth as the figure but I don't think its anywhere near as dull as the first 1/4 at toy soul and a bit more gloss then the current paint we have seen.

All the suits (the main ones) have been done with automotive gloss paint. Outside of one or two production cars and some customs matte paint is not used in automotive industry because it doesn't wear as well.

 

[rocbolt]

The detail is gorgeous but for the money and size I will have to limit any 1/4 purchases to really iconic, favorite armors. 43 might be that but that'll depend entirely on the film at this point. If it was a 42 version I would be sold on it immediately, as I am the only person on earth who loves the Mark 42.

 

[Brainiac]

Have you seen the latest pics of caps shield? The figure one? I posted about it on the cap thread. It's been changed..

You mean these pics?
https://www.sideshowcollectors.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=178228&d=1428577517

It still looks too red. See these photos, I think it should be this color but IDK if its movie accurate, but that could be the actual prop from the movie that the kid is holding and in the still it looks like the suit and shield have more of a wine color
https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/sites/default/files/custom/Tyler Gower copy.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/N9YuB4H.jpg

Fell free to quote this into the AOU Cap thread if you have a reply

 

[thepixelpusher]

If I have the facts wrong on the 1/4 figure comparison, let me know and I'll update the comparison as the thread goes on. I think the bigger 1/4 scale figure was photo'd from an angle that makes the collar area look smaller, but maybe the pads are too trim to the figure??

The Budget Stark Video on the 1/4 scale prototype shows the pads better.

It does look like the pads move up depending upon the pose. Here's another HT promo image of the 1/4 scale. I wonder how much they tweak it before final production from this concept shown at the Asia show? Maybe Budget Stark knows the answer?

 

[Motuxmen]

If I have the facts wrong on the 1/4 figure comparison, let me know and I'll update the comparison as the thread goes on. I think the bigger 1/4 scale figure was photo'd from an angle that makes the collar area look smaller, but maybe the pads are too trim to the figure??

The Budget Stark Video on the 1/4 scale prototype shows the pads better.

It does look like the pads move up depending upon the pose. Here's another HT promo image of the 1/4 scale. I wonder how much they tweak it before final production from this concept shown at the Asia show? Wonder if Budget Stark know the answer?

budget stark wouldn't be able to answer that. And really no one can. As it has to go to marvel for approval and tweaks. Plus the engineers need to take it and break it down for machine work. (If they have not). And a half dozen other steps. No one can tell you what will or won't change between a proto and a production piece. Hot toys couldbt even if they wanted to.

As for being right or not....that depends what your comparing it to. Each suit on the movie has multiple versions that appear on screen. The full cgi stuff. The fill in cgi (RDJ in the suit but parts still added in cgi)..the stunt suit. A hero display suit. And the cgi files evolve during production and post production. So what you see in the movie could be ten different versions of the mk43 (ol same for the mk3,4,5,6,7 ect).

It's why I asked what you where using for comparison. The practical suit will have much larger shoulder pads and there will be larger gaps in the crotch and in the joints to allow movement. The cgi suit is going to be more streamlined and smaller. As its just a drawing done in 3d. It doesn't have to worry about having a real person in it and how they would move. Lol

 

[thepixelpusher]

The detail is gorgeous but for the money and size I will have to limit any 1/4 purchases to really iconic, favorite armors. 43 might be that but that'll depend entirely on the film at this point. If it was a 42 version I would be sold on it immediately, as I am the only person on earth who loves the Mark 42.

I prefer the red to be dominant rather than the gold…seems more classic, but the 43 is so close to the 42. Both are really nice.

I like the industrial design and details of the 43 over *gasp* the Mark IV, which was my previous favorite.

Look at these side by side. The suit and Hot Toys have evolved to very nice level.

 

[thepixelpusher]

As for being right or not....that depends what your comparing it to. Each suit on the movie has multiple versions that appear on screen. The full cgi stuff. The fill in cgi (RDJ in the suit but parts still added in cgi)..the stunt suit. A hero display suit. And the cgi files evolve during production and post production. So what you see in the movie could be ten different versions of the mk43 (ol same for the mk3,4,5,6,7 ect).

You're exactly right. The CGI and the Downey suited shots will have differences in how the parts appear, lay and move. But we'll obsess over these things anyway, or at least I will.

 

[rocbolt]

I prefer the red to be dominant rather than the gold…seems more classic, but the 43 is so close to the 42. Both are really nice.

I like the industrial design and details of the 43 over *gasp* the Mark IV, which was my previous favorite.

Look at these side by side. The suit and Hot Toys have evolved to very nice level.

That's true, but for me right now the 43 is just a potential suit, the how it looks and feels on film will make it iconic or just 1 of 45 with a palette swap of a much more memorable suit. A crisp 1/4 scale version of the Mark 42 would be worth $550 to me in a heartbeat as I love both IM3 and the suit itself, which is more of its own character than just a suit (highly unpopular opinion on this board but whatever).

So I'll just sit back and hope Hot Toys does the easiest cash in ever and releases a Mark 42 repaint edition next year.

Plus my Figuarts 42 is pretty much my favorite toy ever, at this point if I was going to pick one single armor of the bunch to have a deluxe version of it would be 42. I was even looking forward to the Sideshow full scale Mark 42 bust before it ended up being a predictable disappointment, and I don't even collect that sort of thing.

 

[Hologram AI]

Good source is the new image that Marvel put out yesterday. I honestly have a hard time looking at the 1/6 version due to how good the 1/4 is.

Can't get over the horrible proportions and shoulder pads on the 1/6. Was my main grip with the Mark 42 as well.

 

[Patriot666]

Nice comparison shots Hologram. Man this thing looks accurate to me!

 

[thepixelpusher]

I just put the Hot Toys image in the scene (on the right). It looks like the HT IM is leaning back more and shows the stomach more.

 

[Motuxmen]

Like I said, it's all dependent on what source material you are comparing it to. The full 1:1 suit made for im3 has much more pronounced pads. The garage suit on the sofa has them a wee bit smaller. The sofa in the McMansion has in between.

As said, when there is someone on the suit the shoulders are much more pronounced. When it's an empty suit or cgi its more flush.

I don't see anything wrong with hot toys proportions...as the suit is supposed to actually have Tony in it.



And if u look at this pic, I only have this part as I am using it for helmet reference...but you can see the pads that raise up significantly where the 1/4 has them sloping down. And it all boils down to having an actual human in the suit. If you put metal pads in a human shoulder/collar bone they will be raised up. The only way to get them to slope like that is remove the person or make the suit not function as shown in the films. It's an issue they struggled with from day one on iron man 1.