Angelo2113
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Vegeta always represented the "necessary evil" of the series to me. Especially in the Namek Saga.
hay man hate on JB all ya want but if you were 21 & worth over $200 million then you would be acting like Saiyan/Frieza saga Vegeta too
That's why we love Vegeta; he's not only dealing with all the external bull****, like the extermination of his race, murder of his father and destruction of his world, but also the grab bag of insecurities and hang-ups he's lugging around all the time. He's one of the most human characters in the series.
that's a nice explanation and all but some people liked vegeta from the get go, before he went through all the changes. you know why? because they like ****** bags. not only girls has a thing for them but guys too. all that macho ****. who the hell likes nice guys anyways... nah man, we want attitude.
hay man hate on JB all ya want but if you were 21 & worth over $200 million then you would be acting like Saiyan/Frieza saga Vegeta too
#3 sdcc piccolo: heeeaaaads, needs 3 more: turbanless scream and smirk, turban with closed eyes.
I agree with that, but I think some are reductive on Goku's character. He's a selfish, prideful, man-child, and he acknowledges it when he tells Kuririn to let Vegeta live because he wants to fight him, and then later to Gohan when he sacrifices himself. We watch him grow up as a naive kung fu child that doesn't even know about female anatomy (let alone normal human anatom) that lived in a bumble, and had no qualms about murdering enemies, to the greatest martial artist grandpa in the universe. When he cries after re-uniting with his "grandpa," disobeys Roshi to avenge Kurirn, slaughters the demons, tells Piccolo Jr. to hit him after Kami helped him in battle, sticks his tongue out at Kami after offering the role of God, sacrifices himself to kill his newly discovered alien brother, etc., (You've seen it!), I think his character develops. He's starts as a blank slate in the beginning of the series, but matures, and even understands how to manipulate people!
Maybe Goku should have died on Namek, and then he could have used his one day to train with Gohan for the Cell arc, and then sacrificed himself permanently there? In any case, I understand your point!
@angelo To answer your question correctly then, I would want SSJ Vegeta with yellow boot tips, Platinum Blond Hair, and a forward smirk!
Great list! Woah! I didn't know you liked SSJ4 that much! I hope you get it! If it was gold, I think SSJ4 is how the original SSJ would have looked if he had his tail. You like Broly more than Freeza and Cell? He does have a really cool design. Although, I think the blue haired skinny version looked the coolest.
"I am no warrior and I will never fight again"
No, I will not fight, but I will...
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DANCE!
God I hate you Toriyama for degrading such an amazing character
@angelo To answer your question correctly then, I would want SSJ Vegeta with yellow boot tips, Platinum Blond Hair, and a forward smirk!
Great list! Woah! I didn't know you liked SSJ4 that much! I hope you get it! If it was gold, I think SSJ4 is how the original SSJ would have looked if he had his tail. You like Broly more than Freeza and Cell? He does have a really cool design. Although, I think the blue haired skinny version looked the coolest.
@Ang & Bane.
The nr 1 release I'd improve is normal Goku because I'd outright make him the saiyan/namek saga version and add more faces. But maybe this one doesn't count?
My five faves (not really in order) and if i'd improve them:
#1 Trunks: near perfect except no pupils on his eyes, his toejoint cant go fully down which makes him instable and wish he had bicepsswivel.
#2 sdcc Gohan: I'd want less shading on his cape, but imma ignore that and say perfect. Best release in the line so far for me I think. Maybe the twins trump it.
#3 sdcc piccolo: heeeaaaads, needs 3 more: turbanless scream and smirk, turban with closed eyes.
#4 manga Goku: wish his hair had shading like vegeta, and no stripes beneath his eyes. Clenching teeth face woulde been nice. Sdcc goku I wish I had though his shading is overdone.
#5 ssj vegeta: just more god damn faces.
Major gripes with some other figs, loose joints on vegeta and cell. Yeah cell is too small. Frieza lacks a [stern/grump/shocked] face.
Honestly piccolo and ssj vegeta lacking faces and no shaded ssj hair goku are my biggest annoyances.
And one gripe I have with ALL releases is that the feet can't bend inward to the shin enough, making many sig martial arts poses tough to balance standing. But that's a very hard issues to solve.
The hair color is an interesting discussion because, while I do agree about the platinum hair, the S.H. Figuarts isn't that off from the anime...
The forward smirk would have been really nice. It's very rare that I actually LIKE an off to the side look on a character. Normal Goku's Kamehameha power up face and Gohan's Kamehameha face are the two I can think of that I like the most.
Yeah, I've never been so excited for an S.H. Figuarts that I am for Super Saiyan 4 Goku. Broly and Super Saiyan 2 Gohan would be the next two. (I joined when Broly went out for pre-order so Super Saiyan 4 Goku was the first reveal in regards to that.) Thanks! It's my favorite Super Saiyan design. While I did see the gold recoloring and it looked amazing, I enjoy the different color designs more. I feel if they were gold, they would look too familiar among each other. Broly was just un-****ing-stoppable. He took out the entire Saiyan group of the Z-Fighters with ease. That's still the biggest impact villain has had for me. Like I said, Perfect Cell comes very close in 2nd.
Which faces would you add for Saiyan/Namek Saga Normal Goku?
2.) I remember you mentioning the shading on his cape. Are you going to get the Manga Gohan and use his cape? SDCC Gohan is really well done. Especially in comparison to the Manga.
3.) Piccolo really needs a smirk! I would also like a head where he's powering up like this...
Do you still have Piccolo in his meditating pose?
4.) I agree about SDCC Goku's shading being overdone but I really like the color of the gi.
5.) Yeah, hopefully IF/WHEN Buu Saga Vegeta is released, he'll have more faces and better, more of a resemblance, faces. I feel that was missing from the current Super Saiyan Vegeta.
Perfect Cell can be a pain in the ass with the loose joints. It's not that noticeable until you try some flying/maneuverability poses.
Did you like the prototype Super Saiyan Goku shading?
Spoiler:
- a new upper torso mold that fits a smaller sash and of course his logos. Maybe just Krillin's mould made larger.
- an anime accurate repaint (e.g. yellow stripes on the boots)
- a smile while frowning (guess a smirk but, not so evil)
- a clenching teeth face with his eyes forward (concentrating) for powering up (think kaioken, spirit bomb). or during a massive attack.
- a goku in pain face
- a black haired repaint of his forward facing scream.
- his stern face again (can't really omit that from a goku release).
- one more happy face that's different from what we got in reg goku now. Maybe happy laughing or whatever.
- and it would be fantastic if they could include a windswept second hair mould.
(so 6 faces, ideally two heads)
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- His pole and hands to hold it (and other normal hands, doesn't need a two finger hand)
- flatout Nimbus, he can stand on riding it, that can stand on its own with clear removable pegs underneath it (= stand).
- a second sash that blows in the wind
- a senzu bean bag (dunno if or how it could be attachable to his sash)
Estimated price: +/- 50$
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