Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice (March 24th, 2016)

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Re: Batman vs. Superman (2016)

I remember seeing a huge push for the Death of Superman issues, especially at stores. Then all those people that were buying into the hype, literally, thinking they'd actually be worth something.

I should've sold my 2 the day after I bought them. The stores were letting them go at $75-$100 a pop that whole week. Now I don't think it's even worth 75 Pesos. :( :lol
 
Batman vs. Superman (2016)

Yeaa, the one I have is probably worth $2~$5 but hey, I'm happy I have a piece of comic history in my comic chest :D

Considering this was published when I was only months old :lol
 
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There could be a million men to play Superman and not one would equal Reeve's portrayal. Still works today, great clip!
 
Re: Batman vs. Superman (2016)

There could be a million men to play Superman and not one would equal Reeve's portrayal. Still works today, great clip!

That's a very close minded way of thinking. Reeve was incredible but I think Henry also did a terrific job as Superman. Hopefully he get's a better script this time around.
 
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That's a very close minded way of thinking. Reeve was incredible but I think Henry also did a terrific job as Superman. Hopefully he get's a better script this time around.

He might have been adequate or even good, but Reeve owned it from start to finish. I know Cavill didn't exactly have top grade people around him... no secret there. All told, he still could have brought something extra to the portrayal. That's what truly great actors do. I didn't see more than a 1D portrayal in an empty, cartoon, gray, 3D Metropolis. I'm too old to be overly wowed by special effects so I pay more attention to characters. He's not an embarrassment, but nowhere near the top of Reeve's boots.
 
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That's a very close minded way of thinking. Reeve was incredible but I think Henry also did a terrific job as Superman. Hopefully he get's a better script this time around.

Cavill was good but no where near Reeve. Reeve wasn’t just a perfect Superman, but he was a perfect Clark Kent.
 
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He might have been adequate or even good, but Reeve owned it from start to finish. I know Cavill didn't exactly have top grade people around him... no secret there. All told, he still could have brought something extra to the portrayal. That's what truly great actors do. I didn't see more than a 1D portrayal in an empty, cartoon, gray, 3D Metropolis. I'm too old to be overly wowed by special effects so I pay more attention to characters. He's not an embarrassment, but nowhere near the top of Reeve's boots.
Totally. It's a testament to the indelible mark he left - he carried everything as perfectly as possible. Effects - sure, they were cutting edge at the time, but Reeve sold the LOT.

In S:TM - it was Donner & Reeve.

In S2 - it was Stamp & Reeve.

In the other two - even Superman couldn't save them, but Reeve was the foundation of course. :lol

Cavill's good - I like him, but really disliked the film. Despite all the bells & whistles & a good Kal-El, it failed. :huh
 
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Comparing the two is very wrong. They are not playing the same Superman at all.
I guess people here complained enough about that to make clear that MOS Supes has absolutely nothing to do with Donner´s.
So why compare the two?if To diss one more Time MOS? That would be a real surprise ^^!
Reeve was a great actor playing an unidimensional boy scout Supes, Cavill is a good actor playing a "realistic" scared alien on his way to become Superman.
Apples and oranges.
Based on my tastes these days and not nostalgia im more interested by Cavill take on the character, the universe than Donner´s.
 
Re: Batman vs. Superman (2016)

Comparing the two is very wrong. They are not playing the same Superman at all.
I guess people here complained enough about that to make clear that MOS Supes has absolutely nothing to do with Donner´s.
So why compare the two?if To diss one more Time MOS? That would be a real surprise ^^!
Reeve was a great actor playing an unidimensional boy scout Supes, Cavill is a good actor playing a "realistic" scared alien on his way to become Superman.
Apples and oranges.
Based on my tastes these days and not nostalgia im more interested by Cavill take on the character, the universe than Donner´s.

They may be apples and oranges, but they're playing the same grape so... :lol I know you want to avoid any negative comparison. I don't blame you, I just think there's an important difference between the two portrayals and it's not helping the character in the long run.

It makes sense that a new generation of narcissists doesn't particularly care for high minded moral behavior. Might be the reason why Superman is such a tough sell and why MOS had to be turned into a "poor me I'm so powerful" with a brooding self obsession extending throughout his entire existence. It might be more accurate to call this comparitively immature version "Boy of Steel" because his only real code was trying to fulfill himself not giving a **** about property damage while he settles his personal score with Zod... or an obnoxious logger. You will not find the magnanimous Superman of the comics, a hero for the people for the sake of the people.

You wanted a super badass to clean the bad guy's clock, but you didn't stop to think about what you're missing out on. Reeve managed to retain that old school moral strength where you strive to be the better man not for yourself, but because you really want to help your fellow man (the community). Superman taking the desire not to bask in the glory of his accomplishments and adopting the Clark persona was about as humble as anyone in comics gets to be. No wonder so few today respect that because they can't see their selfish selves in any of it. A self obsessed millionaire playboy alcoholic with state of the art tech who gets all the chicks and recognition? Welcome to the real movie icon to represent the new America.
 
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Its not that i want to avoid any negative comparaison i just think they are not comparable.
There are as many Supes as there are as many Batman.
Different writers, artists, etc...
Tim Burton would have done his version, Snyder did his i like that a director is making a universe its own.
If its just to see live whats on paper i have no interest.
I liked Snyder s take more maybe because i grew up with heavy metal magazines and Akira rather than with the actual superman and dc comic stuff.
Its more my thing in termes of tone and visuals.

As for properly damages, immaturity etc... You are right but its no sign of Times or anything.
Its in synch with the version of the character we have witnessed growing up in the movie.
A scared father who raised a scared boy.
The Guy put up the suit 24 hours ago and he has to reveal himself to the world while fighting an alien invasion.
He keep on doing stupid things like leaving his mom unprotected with 2 aliens while kicking zods ***.
Hes not the magnanimous superman yet, you re kinda right when you say hes closer to superboy.

The next movie need to be more super, now that he ´s accepted, kinda, we dont need to see him lament on his condition.
 
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Re: Batman vs. Superman (2016)

Its not that i want to avoid any negative comparaison i just think they are not comparable.
There are as many Supes as there are as many Batman.
Different writers, artists, etc...
Tim Burton would have done his version, Snyder did his i like that a director is making a universe its own.
If its just to see live whats on paper i have no interest.
I liked Snyder s take more maybe because i grew up with heavy metal magazines and Akira rather than with the actual superman and dc comic stuff.
Its more my thing in termes of tone and visuals.

As for properly damages, immaturity etc... You are right but its no sign of Times or anything.
Its in synch with the version of the character we have witnessed growing up in the movie.
A scared father who raised a scared boy.
The Guy put up the suit 24 hours ago and he has to reveal himself to the world while fighting an alien invasion.
He keep on doing stupid things like leaving his mom unprotected with 2 aliens while kicking zods ***.
Hes not the magnanimous superman yet, you re kinda right when you say its closer to superboy.

We can agree to disagree, but since they are playing they same character the comparison is inevitable. Of course they're going to be different, but I guarantee the foundation for all of it was the original. Ain't no trace of Reeves or Alyn to be found, yet there is the hint of Reeve's face in one scene. Reeves might be the grandaddy, but Reeve is still the big daddy of the Superman cinematic universe. He was one in a million and it'll take another one in a million to come anywhere close moving past him.
 
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