J.J. Abrams' Star Trek Into Darkness

[a-dev]

For all the *****ing Spock did in the TOS McCoy would be dying again laughing knowing how badly he messed up the universe.

Has it ever been explained why no one stopped for a second and thought 'maybe we should try to undo this bit of time travel damage'? When in Star Trek have they ever effectively just gone '$h!t happens' and decided to leave it alone?

 

[Uncanny Web-Slinger]

Not liking the new Klingon design

 

[TheObsoleteMan]

Has it ever been explained why no one stopped for a second and thought 'maybe we should try to undo this bit of time travel damage'? When in Star Trek have they ever effectively just gone '$h!t happens' and decided to leave it alone?

Yeah, every ST time travel show or movie I've ever seen was about fixing the damage to the time line.

It was an admirable effort to try and pacify original series fans by not "wiping out" their continuity and making it an alternate reality, but they should've just ignored that and gone full reboot. No one but the super nerds would have cared, and we wouldn't have had yet another ST time travel story.

 

[Darth Zangetsu]

Not liking the new Klingon design

Add me to this list. It's just wrong. Maybe it's the lack of facial hair?

 

[Matt S]

When it looks like the dudes from Enemy Mine, i'm unimpressed.

 

[Sachiel]

It looks like a rigged head Klingon without hair. Jeezus people.

 

[a-dev]

Yeah, every ST time travel show or movie I've ever seen was about fixing the damage to the time line.

It was an admirable effort to try and pacify original series fans by not "wiping out" their continuity and making it an alternate reality, but they should've just ignored that and gone full reboot. No one but the super nerds would have cared, and we wouldn't have had yet another ST time travel story.

Well I don't know about full reboot but I just find it strange that old Spock can see his home planet completely wiped out and it doesn't seem to even occur to him to try to fix the timeline. He had no qualms about pioneering his own method of time travel in Star Trek IV to save earth so why the hell wouldn't he try to undo the destruction of his own planet? Doesn't make sense. They should have written in some explanation about why it wasn't possible to correct this particular change to the past.

 

[tomandshell]

Tell me about it....! Forget the fact that.....

Spoiler:

What surprises me the most if the fact they didn't try to cast a minority actor.

Spoiler:

They did. Benicio Del Toro. But they didn't seal the deal and had to change plans and find somebody else when Benicio Del Toro ultimately turned them down. There were other ethnically appropriate names in the mix, but in the end they just went with a talented, available and affordable actor, regardless of ethnicity.

 

[Chapter 2099]

I got an overnight package in the mail this morning from Paramount Pictures, promoting the movie. Some neat things inside, including a note about a new 3D trailer to be released today around noon. Be on the lookout.

 

[screamingmetal]

It looks like Klingon makeup, but done quite poorly. Totally lacks the personality the old school Klingon makeup had. Also why did they add stupid yellow contacts to the look? I wish they went with something more like General Chang's subtle head ridges to portray a very minimally genetically altered Klingon of the 23rd Century.

 

[Matt S]

Spoiler:

They did. Benicio Del Toro. But they didn't seal the deal and had to change plans and find somebody else when Benicio Del Toro ultimately turned them down. There were other ethnically appropriate names in the mix, but in the end they just went with a talented, available and affordable actor, regardless of ethnicity.

I would have loved the dude who played the last Bond bad guy!

 

[Viking Spawn]

I just saw a re-designed Klingon and must say... No sir, I don't like it. https://www.aintitcool.com/node/62216

The last film worked under the pretense that this is all a butterfly effect beginning with the destruction of the Kelvin, but up to that point it was 'supposed to be' the same universe that led to TOS.

But there's no way the new Klingons adhere to that. I thought JJ was telling us the Klingons would be somewhere between TOS and the movie Klingons. That's not what I see.

That design... well.... sucks.

 

[Rorywan]

Reviews are beginning to slide in, mixed...

 

[Matt S]

Reviews are beginning to slide in, mixed...

Same with the first one too.....

 

[Niltusk]

I enjoyed the first one, but don't know a ton about Trek lore, the people I went with were die hard Trek fans and they hated it; I think some fans feel like Abrams just tramples on what was already there.

 

[spindrift]

Reviews are coming in and there are negative ones..however watched the final trailer today before IM3 and I must say it looks great and epic , as it should be

 

[Niltusk]

Reviews are coming in and there are negative ones..however watched the final trailer today before IM3 and I must say it looks like a warm up or his Star Wars run

 

[Matt S]

Looking forward to this, as I loved the first one, but I am concerned with it a bit

 

[Uncanny Web-Slinger]

It looks like Klingon makeup, but done quite poorly. Totally lacks the personality the old school Klingon makeup had. Also why did they add stupid yellow contacts to the look? I wish they went with something more like General Chang's subtle head ridges to portray a very minimally genetically altered Klingon of the 23rd Century.

They remind me if a soecies from Enterprise.

*off to find an image*

 

[screamingmetal]

They remind me if a soecies from Enterprise.

*off to find an image*

I was looking for these "soecies" in the Memory Alpha database for almost an hour until I realized you meant species.