DarkArtist's End of the Line Thread

[uscmhicks]

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Carpenter / Kubrick = Great suspense!

Yep. you got that right.
And thats what were missing today.
It broke my heart to see movies like avp and remakes of classic horrors taken on by no name directors who thought they could bring justice to classic charaters by throwing in some special effects.

 

[DarkArtist81]

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I miss the days when Horror actually had suspense... Like Halloween, The Shining, Jaws, Alien... Not like that anymore.. everyone wants things to be fast loud and intense... that's not how fear works. It's a slow build.

If I am in costume and I JUMP out to scare some one, screaming.. I might get a cheap scream. But if I stand there and just stare, wait for them to laugh it off and try to shoo me away or get me to talk... just stand there and stare back, maybe move towards them slowly... Well, their barriers get broken down and they start to doubt themselves... Fear gets a grip on their brains and they might run or start trembling. THAT is how it's done...

Modern horror doesn't get that... it's really sad IMO...

 

[uscmhicks]

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If I am in costume and I JUMP out to scare some one, screaming.. I might get a cheap scream. But if I stand there and just stare, wait for them to laugh it off and try to shoo me away or get me to talk... just stand there and stare back, maybe move towards them slowly... Well, their barriers get broken down and they start to doubt themselves... Fear gets a grip on their brains and they might run or start trembling. THAT is how it's done...

that was awesome.
You need to write a book or something.

 

[DarkArtist81]

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that was awesome.
You need to write a book or something.

Thanks...

I am actually writing a speech on Fear right now for this Monday's effective speaking class. My Wife recommended it, seeing how this is a favorite topic of conversation in my house.

I really wanted to be a filmmaker for many years of my life, it was always a dream of mine... I wanted to bring horror back, to bring fear and suspense back to the genre. Alas, I will never get my shot... But at least I can voice my opinion and hope it eventually reaches the ears of someone who can do something about it.

 

[The Craw]

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I am actually writing a speech on Fear right now for this Monday's effective speaking class. My Wife recommended it, seeing how this is a favorite topic of conversation in my house.

the wife scares you, huh? i hear ya.

 

[DarkArtist81]

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the wife scares you, huh? i hear ya.

I think I scare here more than anything, especially with how much I delve into my love of Halloween and horror... I talk her poor ear off..

 

[Voorhees27]

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Thanks...

I am actually writing a speech on Fear right now for this Monday's effective speaking class. My Wife recommended it, seeing how this is a favorite topic of conversation in my house.

I really wanted to be a filmmaker for many years of my life, it was always a dream of mine... I wanted to bring horror back, to bring fear and suspense back to the genre. Alas, I will never get my shot... But at least I can voice my opinion and hope it eventually reaches the ears of someone who can do something about it.

Theres nothing wrong with personal acheivment, i'm in the same boat, i've been working on finishing my screenplay, one that I started a decade ago! You want to talk about never getting a shot?

Nonetheless every great "horror" flick has the same thing in common..........Suspense! Hitchcock was the first to perfect it and the best thereafter followed his trend imo.

BTW Halloween is on AMC right now!

 

[uscmhicks]

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Thanks...

I am actually writing a speech on Fear right now for this Monday's effective speaking class. My Wife recommended it, seeing how this is a favorite topic of conversation in my house.

I really wanted to be a filmmaker for many years of my life, it was always a dream of mine... I wanted to bring horror back, to bring fear and suspense back to the genre. Alas, I will never get my shot... But at least I can voice my opinion and hope it eventually reaches the ears of someone who can do something about it.

I will avenge you !.
I am hoping to do something along the lines of film making too !.
I am in college and doing art this year , I have been hoping next year I will end up on a course heading towards film making or something along those lines.
Anyway , hope you speech goes well. Judging by the little piece you just wrote it will be awesome . Ecspecially since that came off of the top of your head !..

 

[DarkArtist81]

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Thanks guys! I TOO have a screenplay I am dying to write... still in my head and scratching it's way out. It's a vampire tale, told through the experience of a unknowing victim who is turning into one of them... only he doesn't know it.

It's not an "Interview" style Vamp flick or "Twilight"... No... my vampires are terrifying and grotesque... as they should be. The story takes a lot from classic Vampire myths and the original tales that spawned them, so it's pretty freaky. I hope to finish it eventually...

 

[Jen]

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Thanks guys! I TOO have a screenplay I am dying to write... still in my head and scratching it's way out. It's a vampire tale, told through the experience of a unknowing victim who is turning into one of them... only he doesn't know it.

It's not an "Interview" style Vamp flick or "Twilight"... No... my vampires are terrifying and grotesque... as they should be. The story takes a lot from classic Vampire myths and the original tales that spawned them, so it's pretty freaky. I hope to finish it eventually...

I hope you do to!! The premise sounds like something I could really sink my teeth into. Bad joke, I know. But I'm VERY intrigued -hope one day you get it done and let us read it.

 

[DarkArtist81]

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Thanks Jen! It's happening, I have a working outline with basic plot points laid out... I have images and how I want the vamps to look, very Nosferatu in styling but even more horrific. And the transformation....think of it as like the Fly remake...but for becoming a Vamp. Should be a fun story and a fun read!

You can bet it will be available here as well...

 

[Jen]

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Thanks Jen! It's happening, I have a working outline with basic plot points laid out... I have images and how I want the vamps to look, very Nosferatu in styling but even more horrific. And the transformation....think of it as like the Fly remake...but for becoming a Vamp. Should be a fun story and a fun read!

You can bet it will be available here as well...

Looking foward to it!!!

 

[uscmhicks]

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I'm there.
Sounds awesome.

 

[UTtoyfan]

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I miss the days when Horror actually had suspense... Like Halloween, The Shining, Jaws, Alien... Not like that anymore.. everyone wants things to be fast loud and intense... that's not how fear works. It's a slow build.

If I am in costume and I JUMP out to scare some one, screaming.. I might get a cheap scream. But if I stand there and just stare, wait for them to laugh it off and try to shoo me away or get me to talk... just stand there and stare back, maybe move towards them slowly... Well, their barriers get broken down and they start to doubt themselves... Fear gets a grip on their brains and they might run or start trembling. THAT is how it's done...

Modern horror doesn't get that... it's really sad IMO...

I could not agree with you guys more. Those are all my favorite movies up there Josh!
Watched Halloween last night and had a blast!
Oh, and Jaws and Alien need to come to Blu-ray soon cause those I would re-buy in a fast paced spine tingling heart beat

 

[jye4ever]

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Well, i'm the complete opposite...

I was one of the makers of 1988's Cannibal Campout and even played the big doofy lumbering cannibal with the helmet (aren't they always). The movie was released and it can be purchased right on amazon (No, I get no royalties).

Well, that career never went anywhere for many many reason (aren't there always).

Here we are in 2008 and I'm in a completely different career.

Life's paths sure play tricks or treats although having a family and my new career are treats.

 

[MaulFan]

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I miss the days when Horror actually had suspense... Like Halloween, The Shining, Jaws, Alien... Not like that anymore.. everyone wants things to be fast loud and intense... that's not how fear works. It's a slow build.

After watching the Laurie Strode trilogy last night (H1, H2, H20, which is a nice trio story if you take away the kill family at 17 concept in H20), I went to sleep watching RZ Halloween and it surprises me how Rob actually managed to use come classic suspense in his film once Laurie's in the Myers house. There's one part when she first wakes up there and stabs Michael and runs and they had a perfect mix of music and her emotional reaction as she's trying to get away and Michael's just passed out on the floor. Nothing's happening but it builds you up to feel like "oh man, what's going to happen" and that's the best part of horror, when you're given that time period to know something's going to happen and, especially once you've seen several horror films, your mind starts to come up with horrible ideas of what's going to happen you get more scared that you're going to see it happen and it just keeps building up in your mind until blam you get the strike moment, which if done right is very abrupt and just needs to be a quick, 2 second action, just enough to make you jump after your brain's been coming up with ideas for a minute or two. You don't need to see someone get diced up, just made to expect it's coming over a period of time until you're totally freaked out and then a quick image that makes the implication it happens.

 

[metaphorge]

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Thanks Jen! It's happening, I have a working outline with basic plot points laid out... I have images and how I want the vamps to look, very Nosferatu in styling but even more horrific. And the transformation....think of it as like the Fly remake...but for becoming a Vamp. Should be a fun story and a fun read!

You can bet it will be available here as well...

That sounds great! You should accompany it with a custom of a character or two....

 

[Voorhees27]

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After watching the Laurie Strode trilogy last night (H1, H2, H20, which is a nice trio story if you take away the kill family at 17 concept in H20), I went to sleep watching RZ Halloween and it surprises me how Rob actually managed to use come classic suspense in his film once Laurie's in the Myers house. There's one part when she first wakes up there and stabs Michael and runs and they had a perfect mix of music and her emotional reaction as she's trying to get away and Michael's just passed out on the floor. Nothing's happening but it builds you up to feel like "oh man, what's going to happen" and that's the best part of horror, when you're given that time period to know something's going to happen and, especially once you've seen several horror films, your mind starts to come up with horrible ideas of what's going to happen you get more scared that you're going to see it happen and it just keeps building up in your mind until blam you get the strike moment, which if done right is very abrupt and just needs to be a quick, 2 second action, just enough to make you jump after your brain's been coming up with ideas for a minute or two. You don't need to see someone get diced up, just made to expect it's coming over a period of time until you're totally freaked out and then a quick image that makes the implication it happens.

You know its funny with me, I can never make up my mind on this movie, it IS actually a real good movie but just lacks suspense. I watched it today and again it is a really good movie. It just doesn't touch Carpenters, thats all.

 

[MaulFan]

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You know its funny with me, I can never make up my mind on this movie, it IS actually a real good movie but just lacks suspense. I watched it today and again it is a really good movie. It just doesn't touch Carpenters, thats all.

Absolutely it's not close to Carpenter's. The funny thing is, Rob hits on the classic horror stuff in the last 20 minutes or so, but the first hour is a muted version of modern horror, harsh violece, blatant attacks. If it were a sequel instead of a remake, I'd probably like it even more. I still think it's the 3rd best entry in the Halloween series, but knowing it's remake, I still partly judge it against the first instead of as an independent film.

 

[eighthsamurai]

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hey DA, hate to keep asking this, but are my heads close to the brush yet? i know you have quite a few projects on the boil at the moment (great projects!) but just wondering if you had an ETA? i remember in jan, you told me that it might be about a 2 week turnover the delay doesn't bother me at all - i know you've had a tough year and a busy one too. and i'm glad you've had a year full of so many amazing custom projects (to think you produced all that in 10 months - you're a one-man plastic factory). i'm just after a quick update.