Dune Part 3 is the future....Be ready my friends.
I thought the reason Leto never took a wife was because no matter who he chose, the other Houses would take that as a slight. It would make him enemies. As long as he was unmarried, they had hope.
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Emperor Shaddam only had daughters. His wife was also a Bene Gesserit and intentionally only gave him daughters. Consider the political dynamic from his POV. If Duke Leto marries Irulan ( kind of rough right... I mean there's a massive age gap and Irulan is still just a kid in that kind of situation...) before he has Paul, then he can bed Irulan, get her pregnant, have a child together, then the "alliance" between House Corrino and House Atriedes is assured.
However once Paul is born, Duke Leto has to understand, IMHO, that it's a death sentence, one way or another. If Duke Leto does get married ( why would he do it other than into House Corrino? It's the only match that makes sense, i.e. if he's saving himself for the best political decision, that's the apex opportunity for him) and has a child to blend with the Corrino family, then Paul and Jessica are just loose ends. What are the choices then? Death. That's it. Duke Leto could try to hide them or send them to some far flung reaches of the universe, but they would become a standard bearer for all of Emperor Shaddam's enemies to rally around. That means the Sardaukar would be sent non stop and relentlessly to kill Paul and Lady Jessica. Or what if Duke Leto proposes that Paul marries Irulan? Then it's Duke Leto's line that ascends to the throne, not Shaddam and not of his own bloodline. His daughters then are reduced to brood mares and symbolic figures, instead of someone with real power.
Consider the optics of the situation. The Bene Gesserit allowed Duke Leto to have a son. But not the Emperor. How does that look? It makes Shaddam look weak. Hence his desire to kill Leto is not illogical.
IIRC, in the books, it was Duke Leto talking to Paul about his "reasons" for not getting married. IMHO, it was kind of deflection, from my interpretation of it, that he did not have the heart to tell his son that Paul's existence period is a death sentence for House Atriedes. Either Paul and Lady Jessica have to die, or there would a conspiracy of some kind to wipe them all out.
The common argument is Emperor Shaddam was the petty one and Duke Leto was the honorable one. But if you change the POV, Shaddam was basically cornered. Leto left him with no way to save public face. There are some passages, IIRC, where Shaddam and Irulan discuss/imply the knotty unwelcome problem of having to get rid of Leto. Because even if House Atreides is wiped out, the problem stays the same. The Emperor only has daughters and he has to start over again, this time with a lesser slate of suitors once House Atreides are gone.
Could Leto have saved House Atreides? Yes, but at what cost. He would have had to choose to kill Lady Jessica and Paul in front of the Emperor and demand Irulan's hand in marriage. It would have been the "pound of flesh" needed to allow Shaddam to perceive as holding the dominant position.
On an aside, now it's much more evident how much George RR Martin "lifted" from Dune for Game Of Thrones and House Of The Dragon. Because the same problem always emerges in any feudal system. There are simply "loose ends" that don't fit the geopolitical narrative required for alliances and survival.
So true further she literally guts whoever attempts to challenge Paul. She's essentially the one quieting most dissent among the Fremen, just by knowing Chani was there having his back.
Eh, she just has to come around.If that's the case, I can't see how Villeneuve can possibility be true to the source material and still make the new direction for Chani work?
Lovers of the books might be really annoyed at the next one
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....then after giving birth toLuke and Leia, sorry Leto and Ghanima, she just has to die.
Maybe you (and others) might give it a third swing, before calling it out.I haven't read the books and never been able to get through the Lynch movie. So perhaps this just isn't my kind of scifi.
I'm a massive fan of Denis's Arrival and BR2049 and love his visual style, but for some reason this one just isn't working as well for me.
I vividly remember walking out ot The Thing being blown away and then waking up to the harsh fact that the movie was critically hated and then a financial bomb because it had the unfortunate luck of being released just 1 week after ET!Gosh Jye, nobody is saying you should, and your description of the Dune mini-series is pretty apt.
It is kind of like classic Doctor Who, very theatrical with low budget not so special effects.
And that’s an impressive list there, I’d love to see The Thing at the cinema, and I missed Godzilla minus 1
Oh wow that's approaching Rise of Skywalker viewings for you isn't it, lol.I've watched this thing about 8 or 9 times now
Still amazed how much I loved it especially when combined with Part 1.Now that people have gotten some distance on this, how is it playing in their head? Is it still "great"... or has the luster worn off ...?
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