Star Wars vs Star Trek: I've just traded allegiance.

[IrishJedi]

So what you're saying is that Trekkies might actually get laid.

 

[The Mike]

With other people anyway.

 

[IrishJedi]

 

[BadMoon]

It's TREKKER.....not Trekkie!!!!

No reason you can't like both. I do.

I prefer to be called 4 Star General ****** anyways. So you people can have your trekker or trekkie. I'll stick with my own designation.

 

[Deak Starkiller]

Diora Baird >>>>>>>>>>>> Rachel Nicols.

Plus, Orion Slave Girls always get mistaken for She-Hulk anyway.

Yeah what happened to her? I was looking forward to seeing her all greened-up! I mean Rachel Nichols is all right I guess. But yeah no Diora Baird.

 

[Entropy]

Nope, disagree completely. I love them both, but in different ways. Not like Betty and Veronica, but like 2 favorite uncles.

Yeah, but different is not equal.

But the point I was making is choices, tastes, define, just as a wishy-washy, cop-out, imo, 'I refuse/cannot make a choice' choice defines.

 

[KitFisto]

I still don't understand why there has to be such a nerd fight between the two. I have and always will love both. If other can't do the same it's their loss.


Oh, and it's Trekkie. "Trekker" is some stupid term someone came up with because they thought Trekkie sounded too nerdy. Whatever.

 

[galactiboy]

Trekker was really one of the more shameful decisions made by fans... sounds so much weaker than Trekkie

 

[The Mike]

Even Nimoy had to correct himself to "Trekker" when he naturally said "Trekkie" during his SNL skit. The whole Trekker thing feels too unnatural

 

[MrPickles]

The new ST movie was good. For a regular movie, damn good. But let's not get too crazy here.
Anybody remember what happened to Matrix II & III?!

Some (small, yet confusing) issues for me:

Spoiler:

1)If this was the old Trek movies, Spock would find a way to make another black hole or circle the sun or something and return to the future but before the shockwave hits Romulus (er, I mean the whale talking tube destroys earth), thus restoring the timeline we're all familiar with. No? Okay then, Spock. Just go off in defeat to your humiliated colony of 10,000 Vulcans. Quitter.

2) Is Star Fleet now capable of easily wippin' up on the Klingons now that Old Spock has given them this "from the future mind of Scotty" beaming tech. It seems like it could be used in a way to totally and completely defeat them sound as a pound. But what fun would that be right? No way we don't see Klingons (or the even creepier "Burger Kingons") in some major role in Star Trek Reboot II. Batman will always need his Joker...(at least for 1 picture.)

3) I guess I don't understand why Nero came out of the blackhole 25 years ahead of Spock. Somebody help me with that one. And what was he doing for 25 years after killing Kirk's dad anyways? Practicing his spear throwing? Why not go to (the new timeline) Romulus and tell them what happens in the timeline he's from? I don't get this at all. His "revenge" plan totally sucked. For being Star Trek, there's quite a bit of logiclessness. (Yes, I just made up that word in my basement.)

4) Did earth put up ANY fight confronting Nero's ship before the Enterprise arrived to save the day? That woulda been nice to have seen at least a little resistance. And that whole giant laser fron the sky thing was done in the Enterprise tv show anyways. Shouldn't that still be part of this new timeline? It still woulda happened before Nero came back. Go ahead, ask chief engineer Trip about his sister....Oooh........too soon? Oh, yeah, forgot he's dead too. Glad Riker & Troy got a good chuckle out of that one.

I could go on & on and really start to sound like an embittered nerd, but I won't. At least with Star Wars, one can just say, "It's the will of the Force" or "Star Wars is just a fairy tale in space, it's not science and logic like Star Tre-" Oops! I guess we can't use that crutch anymore either...

 

[galactiboy]

The new ST movie was good. For a regular movie, damn good. But let's not get too crazy here.
Anybody remember what happened to Matrix II & III?!

Some (small, yet confusing) issues for me:

Spoiler:

1) Why did Spock let Nero get ahold of the Red Matter in the first place? Is the stuff impossible to destroy or something? If so, what is Star Fleet gonna do w/ it now? They got a ton of it and just a mere drop can make a singularity. And don't just tell me "nothing". If this was the old Trek movies, Spock would find a way to make another black hole or circle the sun or something and return to the future but before the shockwave hits Romulus (er, I mean the whale talking tube destroys earth), thus restoring the timeline we're all familiar with. No? Okay then, Spock. Just go off in defeat to your humiliated colony of 10,000 Vulcans. Quitter.

2) Is Star Fleet now capable of easily wippin' up on the Klingons now that Old Spock has given them this "from the future mind of Scotty" beaming tech or even using the Red Matter itself? Seems like it could be used in a way to totally and completely defeat them sound as a pound. But what fun would that be right? No way we don't see Klingons (or the even creepier "Burger Kingons") in some major role in Star Trek Reboot II. Batman will always need his Joker...(at least for 1 picture.)

3) I guess I don't understand why Nero came out of the blackhole 25 years ahead of Spock. Somebody help me with that one. And what was he doing for 25 years after killing Kirk's dad anyways? Practicing his spear throwing? Why not go to (the new timeline) Romulus and tell them what happens in the timeline he's from? I don't get this at all. His "revenge" plan totally sucked. For being Star Trek, there's quite a bit of logiclessness. (Yes, I just made up that word in my basement.)

4) Did earth put up ANY fight confronting Nero's ship before the Enterprise arrived to save the day? That woulda been nice to have seen at least a little resistance. And that whole giant laser fron the sky thing was done in the Enterprise tv show anyways. Shouldn't that still be part of this new timeline? It still woulda happened before Nero came back. Go ahead, ask chief engineer Trip about his sister....Oooh........too soon? Oh, yeah, forgot he's dead too. Glad Riker & Troy got a good chuckle out of that one.

I could go on & on and really start to sound like an embittered nerd, but I won't. At least with Star Wars, one can just say, "It's the will of the Force" or "Star Wars is just a fairy tale in space, it's not science and logic like Star Tre-" Oops! I guess we can't use that crutch anymore either...

Here are my thoughts on your questions:

Spoiler:

1) Not sure Spock had much of a choice as they had captured him... but all of the Red Matter was destroyed when Spocks ship blew up and took out the Romulan ship.

2) I'm guessing Scott would have come up with that theory eventually... but seemed that the original timeline being distorted caused him to end up on that barren outpost. So Spock really just helped to put that part of the original timeline back into place.

3) Not sure about that... Blacholes are tricky I guess But I do think that he decided rather than show up and freak out the Romulans with his presence and ship it would be easier and more satisfying to destroy Vulcan.

4) Wasn't there a lot of ship debris around Nero's ship when the Enterprise first showed up... I think most of the fleet go their asses handed to them and if Spock hadn't been aboard the Enterprise would have been quickly destroyed as well.

 

[MrPickles]

Thanks for clearing up the Red Matter stuff at least. I can buy that explanation, so I've edited out that part of my "beefs".

Some of the rest, I'm still skeptical. Hey, at least it's a good excuse to have to go see it again...

 

[galactiboy]

Yeah, knowing how things play out makes me want to rewatch it and see how it views when you know why things are happening.

 

[creature4000]

Trekkie sounds like you are a big fan of ST.

Trekker sounds like you've made it apart of your life and are a super dork.

I agree about Trkekkies getting laid way more often by real women!

 

[SilentSurfer]

I have always been a Star Wars fan (most recent stuff not included), but never thought of myself in a group like Trekkies do. I say Trekkies is the real, less dork term for Trek fans, but even Trekker sounds cooler than Fanboy. Where did that come from, and is that all there is to group Star Wars fans together? It was almost better to think Star Wars had no name for its collective fans. I hope Fanboy means something more general, but I hear it used a lot of Star Wars freaks lately. Is it specific to Star Wars, or is there some other term I'm not familiar with for them?

 

[galactiboy]

Wonder how Trek fandom will be impacted by new members in the gene pool. Trekkies have always been a pretty hardcore yet quiet group... seem to keep to themselves more than other fan groups.

 

[thenammagazine]

I have always been a Star Wars fan (most recent stuff not included), but never thought of myself in a group like Trekkies do. I say Trekkies is the real, less dork term for Trek fans, but even Trekker sounds cooler than Fanboy. Where did that come from, and is that all there is to group Star Wars fans together? It was almost better to think Star Wars had no name for its collective fans. I hope Fanboy means something more general, but I hear it used a lot of Star Wars freaks lately. Is it specific to Star Wars, or is there some other term I'm not familiar with for them?

Fanboy is generic. I don't look at it as demeaning, merely a label people feel necessary to give others when they lack the same level of knowledge on any given subject. That said though, I use the term "fanboy funk" to describe the unpleasant odors arising from those attendees who are less hygienic at cons and seem to feel that showering the day before the first day of a con has them covered for the remaining 3-5 days. Though, sometimes I wonder if they work on the Queen Elisabeth mantra: "I shower once a month, whether I need to or not."

 

[galactiboy]

Yeah, I never associated fanboy only with SW... I figured it was more of a general term. First time I ever remember seeing it anywhere was Lobo saying it

 

[SilentSurfer]

"fanboy funk" Aint that the truth.

Good, so Star Wars fans have not felt the need to come up with an official label to make themselves seem cooler (and by cooler I mean lamer). Firefly fanatics call themselves Browncoats, and they are quite similar to Trekkies. I love Firefly too, but I tend to gravitate away from people who include themselves in under a label. That's one thing cool about being a fan of Star Wars over most things; no label.

 

[DPrime]

I'll always love the OT best, but as far as I'm concerned they should have let JJ Abrams do the Star Wars prequels...

The other day, I watched a special on Space (the Canadian version of the Sci Fi Channel), which mentioned that Gene Roddenberry kept pitching a Star Trek movie involving the original crew going back in time to the '60s in order to save JFK. Just goes to show that the original creators of these stories AREN'T always right!