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Re: Star Wars Ultimate Studio Edition Prop Replicas
I would love to get some of these, but those prices...
I would love to get some of these, but those prices...
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Re: Star Wars Ultimate Studio Edition Prop Replicas
That seems to happen more often than not. Fans will always obsess over accuracy compared to a mass produced item, even if it is officially licensed screen accurate replica. Lol
That seems to happen more often than not. Fans will always obsess over accuracy compared to a mass produced item, even if it is officially licensed screen accurate replica. Lol
jkno
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Re: Star Wars Ultimate Studio Edition Prop Replicas
For people looking for accurate props, do not forget the unlicensed world. Take a look on RPF, Prop Den, Dented Helmet, FISD etc. and you'll see many props, sabers, blasters, helmets and studio scale, more accurate than licensed ones, many made with original parts, and way cheaper than PropShop ones. Agreed it is harder to do a research and read about the props and their makers, about accuracy and details, than just getting your wallet ready to buy a licensed prop. But you might end up with a better product in the end.
These are not quite the mass produced items we were used to. They are supposedly produced in UK by the same company and experts who made the TFA props, so they should make them as seen on screen. Especially for the asked price. And yes, without the fans who "obsess" over accuracy you wouldn't get a Legend Vader for example, you might still be in the realm of Rubies and Don Post helmets and props
For people looking for accurate props, do not forget the unlicensed world. Take a look on RPF, Prop Den, Dented Helmet, FISD etc. and you'll see many props, sabers, blasters, helmets and studio scale, more accurate than licensed ones, many made with original parts, and way cheaper than PropShop ones. Agreed it is harder to do a research and read about the props and their makers, about accuracy and details, than just getting your wallet ready to buy a licensed prop. But you might end up with a better product in the end.
These are not quite the mass produced items we were used to. They are supposedly produced in UK by the same company and experts who made the TFA props, so they should make them as seen on screen. Especially for the asked price. And yes, without the fans who "obsess" over accuracy you wouldn't get a Legend Vader for example, you might still be in the realm of Rubies and Don Post helmets and props
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Re: Star Wars Ultimate Studio Edition Prop Replicas
doesnt ship outside US anyway
doesnt ship outside US anyway
jkno
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Re: Star Wars Ultimate Studio Edition Prop Replicas
I'm sure in the future they will. The worldwide market is too big to ignore it, but I think they need some licensing agreements first.
I'm sure in the future they will. The worldwide market is too big to ignore it, but I think they need some licensing agreements first.
Re: Star Wars Ultimate Studio Edition Prop Replicas
The Rey/luke lightsaber prop replica is the only item i'd be willing to drop that much cash on.
The Rey/luke lightsaber prop replica is the only item i'd be willing to drop that much cash on.
jkno
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Re: Star Wars Ultimate Studio Edition Prop Replicas
Get a genuine Graflex, convert it and it'll be more accurate and a hell lot cheaper than the PropShop version.
Get a genuine Graflex, convert it and it'll be more accurate and a hell lot cheaper than the PropShop version.
jkno
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Re: Star Wars Ultimate Studio Edition Prop Replicas
Interesting:
https://gizmodo.com/ugh-i-work-in-the-industry-and-propshop-is-all-the-ra-1779840369
Ugh. I work in the industry, and Propshop is all the rage right now because all the big big Disney (Marvel and SW) are being made at Pinewood (and they are part owner) but their stuff is garbage. We had a bunch of their 3d printed stuff here from the first Guardians film and it just crumbles apart. Ordinarily, you would 3d print ONE and mold it to cast in a more durable plastic or rubber. These guys just churn out 3d prints.
It’s advantageous from a cost/labor perspective, but the tech isn’t quite at that point to make it practical quite yet.
Interesting:
https://gizmodo.com/ugh-i-work-in-the-industry-and-propshop-is-all-the-ra-1779840369
Ugh. I work in the industry, and Propshop is all the rage right now because all the big big Disney (Marvel and SW) are being made at Pinewood (and they are part owner) but their stuff is garbage. We had a bunch of their 3d printed stuff here from the first Guardians film and it just crumbles apart. Ordinarily, you would 3d print ONE and mold it to cast in a more durable plastic or rubber. These guys just churn out 3d prints.
It’s advantageous from a cost/labor perspective, but the tech isn’t quite at that point to make it practical quite yet.
jkno
Stormtrooper
Re: Star Wars Ultimate Studio Edition Prop Replicas
Another interesting thing regarding these PropShop items:
https://www.therpf.com/showthread.php?t=261918&page=10&p=4000096&viewfull=1#post4000096
"Hey RPF,
I've felt compelled to make account here and put a few things straight about these replicas. I've lurked on the forum for many, many, many years. I love what you guys do and how much detail, research and love you put into what you make and I know how much real replica props and screen accurate minutiae means to you guys.
The main thing that's made me register has been Adam's tested review of his Kylo Ren helmet and the misinformation he has about propshop and what they made for the film. I made a couple of comments on the youtube video and I've looked for a private email for him but I couldn't find one, I know he posts/reads/knows people here so I figured this was the best way to get the message out to him and to you too.
I'm the guy that sculpted Kylo Ren's helmet, I did it in conjunction with the chief concept artist and the costume designer and despite common misconception we had absolutely nothing to do with propshop. I was part of an entire costume FX team that worked for Pierre Bohanna in house for the production full of talented staff and expertise and it saddens me to hear a fellow prop modeller (accidentally, I'm sure) credit entirely the wrong team for all the hard work and talent due to misinformation.
Propshop did indeed make a lot of the weapons and other stuff for Force Awakens and they had many talented makers on their roster that I'm personal friends with and by no means would I ever discredit their work, they did an amazing job. Propshop's claims that they made “Rey's saber” etc are all true, and at no point have they claimed credit for our work, but it's just that they just haven't denied it either. They had nothing to do with the Stormtrooper armour (aside from the mounting on the side of the leg for the weapon!) or Kylo Ren's costume at all, that was all us (if you're interested, check IMDB and we're all there under costume modeller).
The 3D printed helmet replicas they are selling ARE based on 3D scan data from our hero stuff, but they're not the original files or 3D print stls. I can't speak for the vader print or the sabers, they probably ARE based on original stl files, but I know for a fact that the helmets we printed were done by a different company to propshop so they never had our stl files. I don't believe their $2000 helmet will be any more accurate than the ANOVOS one, they're both basing their replicas on exactly the same scan data.
I'd also like to mention that Adam Savage claimed that the hero stuff was all 3D printed. It wasn't. A lot of propshop's weapons were, but ALL our helmets were cast from molds made from 3D prints. I myself made Kylo Ren's helmet mold. We needed the durability because until 3D printed material gets better they're far to brittle to have them last a full shoot on a principal actor.
Sorry for the long post, and also sorry to sound a crying child throwing toys out of the pram, usually I keep quiet in this sort of thing and out of public eye, but I have a lot of respect for Adam and I've watched him since the early days of Mythbusters and what he's done for the maker community is fantastic, I'm sure this wasn't vindictive or intentionally misleading.
I have total respect for you guys and it's great to know that people notice all the extra effort we put into our work and that it's (usually!) appreciated by a small minority and to think of you spending $2000 on something that you believe is a 100% replica of an original screen used prop I find distressing and I wouldn't want you to be misled by wrong information."
Another interesting thing regarding these PropShop items:
https://www.therpf.com/showthread.php?t=261918&page=10&p=4000096&viewfull=1#post4000096
"Hey RPF,
I've felt compelled to make account here and put a few things straight about these replicas. I've lurked on the forum for many, many, many years. I love what you guys do and how much detail, research and love you put into what you make and I know how much real replica props and screen accurate minutiae means to you guys.
The main thing that's made me register has been Adam's tested review of his Kylo Ren helmet and the misinformation he has about propshop and what they made for the film. I made a couple of comments on the youtube video and I've looked for a private email for him but I couldn't find one, I know he posts/reads/knows people here so I figured this was the best way to get the message out to him and to you too.
I'm the guy that sculpted Kylo Ren's helmet, I did it in conjunction with the chief concept artist and the costume designer and despite common misconception we had absolutely nothing to do with propshop. I was part of an entire costume FX team that worked for Pierre Bohanna in house for the production full of talented staff and expertise and it saddens me to hear a fellow prop modeller (accidentally, I'm sure) credit entirely the wrong team for all the hard work and talent due to misinformation.
Propshop did indeed make a lot of the weapons and other stuff for Force Awakens and they had many talented makers on their roster that I'm personal friends with and by no means would I ever discredit their work, they did an amazing job. Propshop's claims that they made “Rey's saber” etc are all true, and at no point have they claimed credit for our work, but it's just that they just haven't denied it either. They had nothing to do with the Stormtrooper armour (aside from the mounting on the side of the leg for the weapon!) or Kylo Ren's costume at all, that was all us (if you're interested, check IMDB and we're all there under costume modeller).
The 3D printed helmet replicas they are selling ARE based on 3D scan data from our hero stuff, but they're not the original files or 3D print stls. I can't speak for the vader print or the sabers, they probably ARE based on original stl files, but I know for a fact that the helmets we printed were done by a different company to propshop so they never had our stl files. I don't believe their $2000 helmet will be any more accurate than the ANOVOS one, they're both basing their replicas on exactly the same scan data.
I'd also like to mention that Adam Savage claimed that the hero stuff was all 3D printed. It wasn't. A lot of propshop's weapons were, but ALL our helmets were cast from molds made from 3D prints. I myself made Kylo Ren's helmet mold. We needed the durability because until 3D printed material gets better they're far to brittle to have them last a full shoot on a principal actor.
Sorry for the long post, and also sorry to sound a crying child throwing toys out of the pram, usually I keep quiet in this sort of thing and out of public eye, but I have a lot of respect for Adam and I've watched him since the early days of Mythbusters and what he's done for the maker community is fantastic, I'm sure this wasn't vindictive or intentionally misleading.
I have total respect for you guys and it's great to know that people notice all the extra effort we put into our work and that it's (usually!) appreciated by a small minority and to think of you spending $2000 on something that you believe is a 100% replica of an original screen used prop I find distressing and I wouldn't want you to be misled by wrong information."
Python
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Re: Star Wars Ultimate Studio Edition Prop Replicas
The plot thickens
All this has made me want even more is the Anovos Premium Ren helmet.
The plot thickens
All this has made me want even more is the Anovos Premium Ren helmet.
Re: Star Wars Ultimate Studio Edition Prop Replicas
@JKNO amazing its awesome to have someone like you on SSF. I absolutely loved Kylo Ren and think he has great potential to be a historical movie villain. What will happen in Ep. 8 I dont know . Did you get any inside information on how the concept for Kylos outfit was created, obviously it a throw back to Vader but in an unrefined way. I really wanted these props to be the pinnacle and movie accurate, especially for that price. I am glad you have used your professional opinion and facts to base it on.
@JKNO amazing its awesome to have someone like you on SSF. I absolutely loved Kylo Ren and think he has great potential to be a historical movie villain. What will happen in Ep. 8 I dont know . Did you get any inside information on how the concept for Kylos outfit was created, obviously it a throw back to Vader but in an unrefined way. I really wanted these props to be the pinnacle and movie accurate, especially for that price. I am glad you have used your professional opinion and facts to base it on.
jkno
Stormtrooper
Re: Star Wars Ultimate Studio Edition Prop Replicas
Thanks but is not me who posted that, it is just a text I got from RPF.
Thanks but is not me who posted that, it is just a text I got from RPF.
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