RATE or REVIEW The Last Movie You Watched.

[VintijDroidGutzz]

Plus - Bill Paxton.

 

[GasparZizou]

Plus - Bill Paxton.

No kidding, I think I like Predator Hudson more than Aliens Hudson, in Aliens he was a total jarhead, but in Predator, despite having a similar personality to Hudson, he was one quick thinking, intelligent mother****er, managed to keep up with the likes of Keyes, and despite being kind of a sleazeball, he was kinda suave too.

 

[Jameson Rook]

Predator 2 was pretty fantastic, I never got why people hate it so much yet Predators gets a free pass.

 

[GasparZizou]

Predator 2 was pretty fantastic, I never got why people hate it so much yet Predators gets a free pass.

Predators doesn't get a free pass around here does it? But yeah I don't get the P2 hate either, it's about the same quality level as P1.

 

[higgins1989]

Mad Max Fury Road 6.5/10

If you purely want to just sit and relax while watching non-stop action then its great, what little of a story it had however was disappointing.

Not really relevant to this thread and I know I will take heat for this, but why do people LOVE Firefly so much? I just watched 5 episodes and so far nothing at all has really interested me. The world feels very bland and so similar to ours that you almost forget that its set in space. I really wanted to enjoy it but I just don't care for it.

 

[Jameson Rook]

Predators doesn't get a free pass around here does it? But yeah I don't get the P2 hate either, it's about the same quality level as P1.

Mostly on the internet. "Let's forget Predator 2 existed and watch Predators instead". I think the lack of super muscular beefcakes turned some some people off. Pfft. It had the most badass Predator scene ever:

 

[GasparZizou]

Oh yeah, although I would put the scene of the Predator coming out of the water slightly above that one.

I don't see anything in P2 that warrants such a comment. Plus with all this talk about political correctness, I couldn't help but notice how Predator 2 had a black man as protagonist, not only that, a protagonist just as interesting as Arnold, if not more; a reckless, obsessive-compulsive, get-the-job-done badass with authority issues and not a single hair of stereotype, AND 2 Hispanic supporting characters, one of them being a tough as nails woman.

 

[Sweet Rabbit]

Fantastic 4 - Steaming pile of monkey ****/ 10

 

[RIDDICK]

I couldn't help but notice how Predator 2 had a black man as protagonist, not only that, a protagonist just as interesting as Arnold, if not more; a reckless, obsessive-compulsive, get-the-job-done badass with authority issues and not a single hair of stereotype, AND 2 Hispanic supporting characters, one of them being a tough as nails woman.

 

[Devil_666]

Fantastic 4 - Steaming pile of monkey ****/ 10

Is that better or worse than "Van Down By The River/10"!?

 

[Sweet Rabbit]

Is that better or worse than "Van Down By The River/10"!?

Worse

 

[The Clown Prince of Crime]

Oh yeah, although I would put the scene of the Predator coming out of the water slightly above that one.

I don't see anything in P2 that warrants such a comment. Plus with all this talk about political correctness, I couldn't help but notice how Predator 2 had a black man as protagonist, not only that, a protagonist just as interesting as Arnold, if not more; a reckless, obsessive-compulsive, get-the-job-done badass with authority issues and not a single hair of stereotype, AND 2 Hispanic supporting characters, one of them being a tough as nails woman.

I prefer the original. Even when it first came out, I didn't like it as much as the first film because I felt the Predator alien didn't work well in a city. He's a jungle or forest character, not a city creature if he's looking for a challenge, although it makes sense to go to a populated area, but he just felt out of place, considering his size, weapons, and hunting skills. The supporting cast was ok, even though I prefer Blades as a singer not as an actor Danny Glover was...alright, but he was just a cop, an uncoordinated city cop afraid of heights Not my kind of hero, and honestly, it kind of devalued the Predator going after an average cop and getting beat up. At least Arnie looked like he was an "elite" soldier with a bad ass team of equal abilities and skills....that's a price, and a group of worthy opponents for an alien warrior looking for challenge. So I don't consider P2 and P1 of equal quality at all. If it wasn't for Adrian Brody, I'd say Predators is better than P2, but Brody kind of ruined the film for me, even though I still like it.

Having said all that, I'm still getting the Neca Ultimate city hunter figure

 

[Jrobertson]

Kingsman: the secret service 9/10

 

[GasparZizou]

I prefer the original. Even when it first came out, I didn't like it as much as the first film because I felt the Predator alien didn't work well in a city. He's a jungle or forest character, not a city creature if he's looking for a challenge, although it makes sense to go to a populated area, but he just felt out of place, considering his size, weapons, and hunting skills. The supporting cast was ok, even though I prefer Blades as a singer not as an actor Danny Glover was...alright, but he was just a cop, an uncoordinated city cop afraid of heights Not my kind of hero, and honestly, it kind of devalued the Predator going after an average cop and getting beat up. At least Arnie looked like he was an "elite" soldier with a bad ass team of equal abilities and skills....that's a price, and a group of worthy opponents for an alien warrior looking for challenge. So I don't consider P2 and P1 of equal quality at all. If it wasn't for Adrian Brody, I'd say Predators is better than P2, but Brody kind of ruined the film for me, even though I still like it.

This is bait right?

 

[RIDDICK]

 

[Solidus]

I don't know how I should rate this. I just watched Scorpion King 3 and 4 on the Sci-Fi channel. It had Billy Zane, Lou Ferrigno, Batista, Ron Pearlman, and also a random cast of D-list nobodies whose acting skills wouldn't make the cut for porn films. Then there's the strange music... it was a beautiful disaster of two films .

 

[The Clown Prince of Crime]

This is bait right?

No baiting this time. That's how I feel about the film. Seriously, have you seen Danny Glover run...or move? He's not very athletic. Now, Arnie is no gymnast either, but at least his character was an elite soldier and he looked like an action figure.

 

[GasparZizou]

No baiting this time. That's how I feel about the film. Seriously, have you seen Danny Glover run...or move? He's not very athletic. Now, Arnie is no gymnast either, but at least his character was an elite soldier and he looked like an action figure.

Dude, I bet Danny Glover back then could run 100 meters faster than Arnold in Predator, Elite soldiers do NOT look like Arnold, a body builder like that would not last a day even just standing in the jungle.

I felt the Predator alien didn't work well in a city. He's a jungle or forest character.

How so? There's nothing that indicates that it did not work in the city, in fact, it works fantastically well. I mean, it's the city, during a heat wave, how can it not work? It just clicks right in.

The supporting cast was ok, even though I prefer Blades as a singer not as an actor

How is the supporting cast in Predator any better? Not why you like them better.

Danny Glover was...alright,

He was not alright, he was great, in fact, he gave the character a more describable personality than Arnold gave Dutch.

but he was just a cop, an uncoordinated city cop Not my kind of hero, and honestly, it kind of devalued the Predator going after an average cop and getting beat up.

What? Did you even watch the movie? he wasn't just a cop, he was THE cop in the LAPD, 10 commendations, most arrest and all that, in a Los Angeles so ****ed up, it made Colombia in the 80's look like Kansas in fact, P2 LA was more of a war and conflict zone, with waaaay more savage criminal scum than Central America and their guerrillas in Predator.

afraid of heights

That was just a quirk that made the character a little more interesting, that fits perfectly with his neurotic personality.

At least Arnie looked like he was an "elite" soldier with a bad ass team of equal abilities and skills....that's a price, and a group of worthy opponents for an alien warrior looking for challenge.

What makes you think Harrigan's team wasn't just as capable? Jerry was able to literally keep up with the Men In Black.

Also, the city hunter took down not only Keyes' men, which I assume were just as elite as Dutch's, he also killed countless cartel/king Willy thugs who had way better weapons than the guerrilla.

So I don't consider P2 and P1 of equal quality at all.

P1 may be better, but P2 is nothing to sneeze at.

If it wasn't for Adrian Brody, I'd say Predators is better than P2

And you say it isn't bait

 

[The Clown Prince of Crime]

Dude, I bet Danny Glover back then could run 100 meters faster than Arnold in Predator, Elite soldiers do NOT look like Arnold, a body builder like that would not last a day even just standing in the jungle.

By 80's standard, Arnie is an iconic action hero who can sell being an elite soldier. Glover is a sweaty cop afraid of heights....City Hunter has low standards.

How so? There's nothing that indicates that it did not work in the city, in fact, it works fantastically well. I mean, it's the city, during a heat wave, how can it not work? It just clicks right in.

I just don't see him as a city character. When we first meet the Predator is in a jungle, and he uses the jungle as a weapon. The environment plays a major role in the first film, like a character, but in the second film, it's just a new setting for the sake of doing something different. Predator in a subway and in someone's bathroom? Give me a break

How is the supporting cast in Predator any better? Not why you like them better.

They're wayyy more memorable than the supporting cast from Predator. Seriously, is that even debatable? I know you're trying to defend P2 because it's one of your favorite films, but Glover's crew are not as cool or as memorable as the P1 team. There is not a single character in P1 who doesn't have a memorable scene, moment, or line...which is more than I can say about the P2 cast.

He was not alright, he was great, in fact, he gave the character a more describable personality than Arnold gave Dutch.

He was the Lethal Weapon character...without the mustache. Arnold doesn't need to do any of that because his charisma, one liners, and body are enough to make him more memorable...and he is more memorable.

What? Did you even watch the movie? he wasn't just a cop, he was THE cop in the LAPD, 10 commendations, most arrest and all that, in a Los Angeles so ****ed up, it made Colombia in the 80's look like Kansas in fact, P2 LA was more of a war and conflict zone, with waaaay more savage criminal scum than Central America and their guerrillas in Predator.

Ok, he was a good cop in a tough city, big deal. He didn't show any particular skills to set him apart from any of the other characters. Dude always looked afraid...he's the OG Fin...scared, sweaty, and out of breath.

That was just a quirk that made the character a little more interesting, that fits perfectly with his neurotic personality.

Nah...it's there to make their encounter later on more interesting, and the payoff isn't that great, imo.

What makes you think Harrigan's team wasn't just as capable? Jerry was able to literally keep up with the Men In Black.

Also, the city hunter took down not only Keyes' men, which I assume were just as elite as Dutch's, he also killed countless cartel/king Willy thugs who had way better weapons than the guerrilla.

Jerry? You say that like that's such a memorable character that i'll recognize the name You need to be more specific about what he did...you mean he was keeping track of the MIB? If that's the case, he's a cop...it's what they do. Anyway, you like to assume things, as far as I know they could be a bunch thugs with no real training. At least with a guerrilla, it's implied that they are a military group with training...because they're actual soldiers. It's a given or a fact that they are soldiers, but those thugs in P2, we don't know anything about them, so it's pointless to assume anything about them, except that they are criminals with a lot of weapons.

P1 may be better, but P2 is nothing to sneeze at.

I didn't say it was bad, just not as good as the first, and we agree on that.

And you say it isn't bait

Really, replace Brody with the Rock or some other actor with more charisma and who's more believable as a tough soldier, and that movie is better than it is. They were at least smart enough to go back to basics and to the ideal environment, a jungle. The rest of the cast could be better too, but the idea of putting all these different humans in this alien jungle, is more interesting and original than P2, which is just a sequel in a different setting....a poor setting. That's probably one of the reasons most people didn't like the film. I don't hate it, but I always thought it was a weird choice.

 

[GasparZizou]

By 80's standard, Arnie is an iconic action hero who can sell being an elite soldier. Glover is a sweaty cop afraid of heights....City Hunter has low standards.

Why are you so salty against Harrigan? Are you a racist? You're a racist aren't you?

I just don't see him as a city character. When we first meet the Predator is in a jungle, and he uses the jungle as a weapon. The environment plays a major role in the first film, like a character, but in the second film, it's just s new setting for the sake of doing something different. Predator in a subway and in someone's bathroom? Give me a break

How did he use the jungle as a weapon? He literally does the exact same thing in the jungle as he does in the city.

The environment plays a role in the movie because of the characters' psyche, not because of the Predator, it also play a part in city in a different way, again, unrelated to the Predator, the Predator is supposed to be adaptable.

For the sake of being different? The city is literally called the concrete jungle, how is that not the next logical step? For the sake of being different, that's what Predators did.

They're wayyy more memorable than the supporting cast from Predator. Seriously, is that even debatable? I know you're trying to defend P2 because it's one of your favorite films, but Glover's crew are not as cool or as memorable as the P1 team. There is not a single character in P1 who doesn't have a memorable scene, moment, or line...which is more than I can say about the P2 cast.

More memorable doesn't = better, and I do agree the P1 crew is cooler, for sure, but again, nothing to sneeze at, certainly not comparing it to the Predators crew.

The dynamic of the supporting cast is just as rich, if not more, it's just more subtle, you may have missed it.

He was the Lethal Weapon character...without the mustache. Arnold doesn't need to do any of that because his charisma, one liners, and body are enough to make him more memorable...and he is more memorable.

Harrigan is the complete opposite from Murtaugh.

Yeah Arnold is more memorable, he's Arnold! But Harrigan was definitely a better character.

Ok, he was a good cop in a tough city, big deal. He didn't show any particular skills to set him apart from any of the other characters. Dude always looked afraid...he's the OG Fin...scared, sweaty, and out of breath.

Why are you low balling LA in P2? Have you seen a more ****ed up city that isn't a conflict zone?

Jerry? You say that like that's such a memorable character that i'll recognize the name You need to be more specific about what he did...you mean he was keeping track of the MIB? If that's the case, he's a cop...it's what they do. Anyway, you like to assume things, as far as I know they could be a bunch thugs with no real training. At least with a guerrilla, it's implied that they are a military group with training...because they're actual soldiers. It's a given or a fact that they are soldiers, but those thugs in P2, we don't know anything about them, so it's pointless to assume anything about them, except that they are criminals with a lot of weapons.

Really? Bill Paxton is not memorable?

How familiar are you with guerrillas? Maybe some of them have training, the heads, the rest of them are uneducated poor people who get drafted via brain washing/propaganda, etc etc.

And the cartels, they literally draft ex-military.

Really, replace Brody with the Rock or some other actor with more charisma and who's more believable as a tough soldier, and that movie is better than it is. They were at least smart enough to go back to basics and to the ideal environment, a jungle. The rest of the cast could be better too, but the idea of putting all these different humans in this alien jungle, is more interesting and original then P2, which is just a sequel in a different setting....a poor setting. That's probably one of the reasons most people didn't like the film. I don't hate it, but I always thought it was a weird choice.

Really, being different for the sake of being different, that's very unlike the concept of SUPER PREDATORS Predators is ok, it's tolerable in the standards of the AVP movies, it is very much below P2.