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And now its a Kosher market, just doesn't end.

I hope all of them are caught alive and do not get even the slightest chance to become the 'martyr' that they intend to.

Bullets will be a very easy way to go, they don't deserve that.
 
I don't mind if they get to be martyrs. Maybe if they had been martyred last week, 12 people who didn't need to die to be worth something would still be alive.
 
This "version" of islam needs to be stopped. Countries need to start stepping up and not be tolerant of this crap. Norway has started deporting all radical muslims. Thats what every country should do. If you're a radical terrorist, see ya later. Go back to your home country. Countries where muslims are the minority should not be forced into "tolerating" all this crap that these radicals are forcing on them. If you come to america and want to practice islam, go ahead. But do not force your beliefs and your sharia law on us.

I know the majority of muslims don't believe in this, but this crap is barbaric and everyone needs to come together to stop it.
 
Finally...


1. Mindless and shameful killings
2. International media coverage
3. Became 'Heroes' for the outfits and people who support them

Guess their 'noble' and 'holy' purpose got solved. Sad.

I don't mind if they get to be martyrs. Maybe if they had been martyred last week, 12 people who didn't need to die to be worth something would still be alive.

I wish they were identified before. One of the brothers was already a convicted terrorist. The other went to Yemen, got the training, and came back. :dunno Looks like Intelligence Failure. The French authorities say there are "too many people to watch". Personally, I fear that incidents like this are just waiting to happen. How do we deal with this. A collective hatred towards the religion and the followers (and actions inspired by that hatred) will not be the solution, imho...
 
Never heard of these cartoons before. Probably saw them in passing, but never made much out of them. I was almost offended by that one God/Jesus/holy spirt cover, but forgot about it as fast as I saw it. I was wondering why some of my favorite freaks had "Charlie Hebdo" sigs. The other day I saw Yankee posting and I was like, "what the hell is a "Charlie Hebdo"?


Awful thing that happened, bunch of extreme cowards. It's really not surprising though, you can't stop an irrational, mad dog. Even if you don't provoke it it'll lose it's ****. The killings are terrible and unwarranted, but those guys were playing with fire and they knew it. I read some of the deceased contributors' quotes about their images and I can't say a bunch of crude drawings are worth eating bullets over, even in the name of freedom. The potent mourning/after math cartoon are sweet and cute, but it still won't stop a bunch of whack jobs. They'll never stop. Until they lose their ability to inflict harm on others, guns and bombs will always outdo words and pencils. The thing that'll hurt the most are the families of half the staff that died and the non-radical Muslims who are going to be pushed further away.
 
All of the bad guys related to both of the incidents have been killed. The hostage takers killed four of their hostages.
 
It'll just get worse. They're growing, patient and waiting. It'll happen in the UK, Australia and US as well. Anyone who can't see that is kidding themselves.
 
seems everyone already forgot about the hostage situation in the USA not much more than a month ago?.. Some butthole holding hoytage in a deli or something?.. These guys are serious idiots... deport em all and let em rot in their arid "homeland".
 
I don't mind if they get to be martyrs. Maybe if they had been martyred last week, 12 people who didn't need to die to be worth something would still be alive.

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I've no problem with these scum simply being killed. It needs to be done. Not like they're actually going to whatever version of heaven they believe in - they'll just be dead. Which is the real tragedy of the innocents they slaughter - they're ''just dead'' too unfortunately. Such a waste of life.
 
Yeah, agreed. I see no benefit at all in housing terrorists for the next 50+ years. Once a person's stepped over a line like this then they need to be dealt with harshly. This is really a perfect example of when the state is justified to kill.
 
So barbaric. They choose to honor a religion that is from the stone age. They behead people for being gay. What would happen if Christians beheaded people for being gay?

This will only get worse and continue to spread as long as people continue to "tolerate" it. There is no compromise with these people. We can't be afraid to "discriminate" against these radicals.
 
all of this is sad of course. but what lots of people don't seem to understand is that action(i.e. change, efficiency, freedom, revenge/retaliate, technology, etc) are causes that's been snow balling for centuries. and the result are effects that will leads us all to our doom. the mundane will get attach to specific circumstances(current events); gets emotional and maybe find justification/cause(freedom, patriotism, etc.) for more action. the wise will ignore the mundane and look for the solution to the root cause. the solution is simple: nothing(do nothing). Sometimes no action is just as good as action. but the causes and effects are so large now that its harder and harder to do nothing. people tend to want more, to do better, cut in line, get richer, etc. not alot are humble. seem like we're gonna need a divine intervention to give us a mixture of solution(dictatorship, socialism, communism, democracy, religion, etc.) that is a compromise but at the same time bind us together.
 
all of this is sad of course. but what lots of people don't seem to understand is that action(i.e. change, efficiency, freedom, revenge/retaliate, technology, etc) are causes that's been snow balling for centuries. and the result are effects that will leads us all to our doom. the mundane will get attach to specific circumstances(current events); gets emotional and maybe find justification/cause(freedom, patriotism, etc.) for more action. the wise will ignore the mundane and look for the solution to the root cause. the solution is simple: nothing(do nothing). but the causes and effects are so large now that its harder and harder to do nothing. people tend to want more, to do better, cut in line, get richer, etc. not alot are humble. seem like we're gonna need a divine intervention to give us a mixture of solution(dictatorship, socialism, communism, democracy, religion, etc.) that is a compromise but at the same time bind us together.

A ten thousand mile journey begins with one step.

Step one: expose and deny sanctuary to radicals.

Then society can look to education, socialisation and assimilation of its members into a shared set of overarching ethical values.
 
A ten thousand mile journey begins with one step.

Step one: expose and deny sanctuary to radicals.

Then society can look to education, socialisation and assimilation of its members into a shared set of overarching ethical values.

think of what Bush did in Iraq x 10 and the result is IS x 1000. this is the path you speak of. its easy to have some grand plans of things like we can force order. there will always be a certain element of chaos in humanity. you can't achieve total order or at least the order/step you speak of from chaos. the action you speak of itself is basically chaos added to chaos. your action could easily end up with concentration camp like that of the Jews. we like to think of ourselves as righteous, heroes, freedom-fighter, etc. but imagine being born on the other side. you'll have a different view of things. they could be the next rebels that the U.S. used to be. now look how large the United States is. we need to look from both side and beyond for a solution. more and more, it seem we need something beyond; something that would satisfy the deeply religious people as well.
 
You can talk about blowback til the cows come home. I'm no fan of a lot of the foreign policy decisions that the U.S. has made over the past half-century. But you want to take it back to the French in Palestine? The English in Afghanistan? How about the Mongols?

The distinction that needs to be made in this sequence of events is the notion that innocents - ie civilian non-combatants - are once again at this point in our history considered legitimate targets. And not for any notion other than religious triumphalism.

You presume that this is all about the US. It isn't. It's not about arbitrary notions of culture or birthright either. It is about rational thought vs fanaticism. Reason vs ignorance. Are you suggesting that reason meets ignorance halfway? That's paradoxical. The enemy doesn't want a portion of land or power that can be divvied up through compromise. The enemy is seeking total destruction of those outside of their narrow, religious sphere.
 
Dear French Tactical Officers / GIGN:

Before you engage the human cockroach and decapitate her via high caliber bullet, please make sure to use a high quality camera to take glamour shots of Mrs. Boumediene. Please kindly forward the pictures to the editor of Rolling Stone Magazine. The women of the world satisfied their genitals with the delicious pictures of Tsarnaev. It is time for the men of the world to satisfy our genitals with pictures of Mrs. Boumediene. As the editor of Rolling Stone would probably point out, there is no greater fetish than a sexy terrorist. :)
 
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