Official "Ridley Scott's Prometheus" Discussion Thread (Spoilers)

[Khev]

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[Shropt]

At least this script proves the Engineers were supposed to be like 15 feet tall. 9 foot tall Engineers makes no sense.

 

[abake]

A better script, but it still starts with big alabaster dudes.

Space Jockeys are still just spacesuits for big alabaster dudes.

This script is still 100x better than what got lensed.

Spoiler:

Main differences:

>It happens on LV-426
>Ship is named Magellan
>Weyland is after the terraforming technology, not immortality.
>Vickers is not related, but does have big aspirations in the company.
>There is a reference to Engineer Jesus, but Watts (who was religious in the movie) laughs it off.
>The main archaeologists (Holliday & Watts) are very intelligent and extremely excited when they find the dead bodies.
>There are several extra characters in the story, mainly scientists.
>Vickers also brings four soldiers as bodyguards and protection, all armed to the teeth.
>Fifield and the other dork are given a toast for being stupid enough to get lost in the pyramid.
>The Pyramids are terraforming devices, and they are made of living biological matter, capable of seeding worlds as long as they're fully terraformed.
>David does not poison Holliday at all, but Holliday does die by falling deeper into the pyramid and getting facehugged by an evolved facehugger. He gets back to the ship, is about to do Watts, and ends up going into convulsions and chestbursting. The xenomorph escapes and ends up killing a bunch of the crew.
>David is an evil d!ck nonetheless. He figures out the Engineer ship is a doomsday ship named Juggernaut and it was meant to deliver a lethal payload of xenomorphs to Earth, but they were attacked and killed by their own creatures. David has 2 protocols: the first was to discover the terraforming abilities, and the second was to eliminate the scientists. He grabs Watts, brings her to the "armoury" (where the ORIGINAL facehugger eggs are) and has her impregnated with an oldschool xenomorph.
>Watts does use the med bay, but it's to remove the new alien, not a squid baby. The alien escapes through a grate and Watts is left in the med pod for hours (not minutes like the movie), and she gets crazy extensive surgery. When she awakes she sees a soldier coming in and he is killed by the alien. While he's being fed on, she slowly gets out, grabs his gun, and unloads on the alien, killing it.
>The remaining crew (Vickers, Watts, a couple soldiers & randoms) go in to find David because he locked the engine controls to prevent escape from the moon. They find David, he resurrects an Engineer that was in stasis (last to survive massacre) and the Engineer goes apeshiat, rips David's head off, and attacks the others. Most escape, but Vickers and a soldier find resurrected Fifield (much grosser than the movie) and he attacks. He mortally wounds soldier, jumps on Vickers, but soldier shoots him and he erupts acid all over Vickers, essentially melting her to goo.
>The Engineer gets to the captain's chair (like in ALIEN where he's found) and starts to take off. Meanwhile Watts is driving back to the Magellan. Janek (ship's pilot) is in the command center when evolved weird alien attacks. It bites him, but Watts comes in and kills it with multiple head shots. They take off determined to ram the engineer's ship. During this the Engineer's chest erupts and a super alien comes out, thus leaving the Engineer where he was found in ALIEN. Ship starts descending, but David's head radios Watts and says auto-pilot is engaging. They ram the ship, Janek is killed, but Watts escapes in a pod. She has to do the same run-away as Vickers did in the movie from the engineer ship, but she does the smart thing and turns 90 degrees.
>Finally she has to fight the super xenomorph, kills it, and lives in Vicker's luxury pod while waiting for a rescue party and playing chess with Head of David.
>Each pyramid on the moon emits a beam/beacon into space . . .

THE END

Damon Lindehof = Rob Liefeld

The DVD extras reveal how the filmmakers changed the script on a daily basis, which is always a good recipe for utter trainwreck salad.

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Haven't had time to read the script, but it does sound like a better sci-fi/horror film from your synopsis...
Maybe not as thought provoking or ambitious, but certainly more logical.

 

[marker2037]

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[CelticPredator]

I bought it for 150. Don't regret it.

 

[karamazov80]

Not sure if this has been posted but Alien Blu-Ray Anthology $20 @Amazonhttps://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B001AQO3QA/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?ie=UTF8&smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER

Ordered. Thanks! Just wish I could decline having them ship Alien Resurrection *sigh*

And having a wife who went through a C-section pregnancy, where I had to stay at home for two weeks to help her recuperate, etc., I was also a bit impressed by the ability of this woman to get up and start running around right after a few staples were applied to her wound in the film

 

[CelticPredator]

FUTURE DRUGS MAN!!1111

 

[marker2037]

Ordered. Thanks! Just wish I could decline having them ship Alien Resurrection *sigh*

And having a wife who went through a C-section pregnancy, where I had to stay at home for two weeks to help her recuperate, etc., I was also a bit impressed by the ability of this woman to get up and start running around right after a few staples were applied to her wound in the film

I was thinking about the same thing. Make it a two-pack for me please

 

[CelticPredator]

The Alien 3 they have is worth it.

 

[Viking Spawn]

A better script, but it still starts with big alabaster dudes.

Space Jockeys are still just spacesuits for big alabaster dudes.

This script is still 100x better than what got lensed.

Spoiler:

Main differences:

>It happens on LV-426
>Ship is named Magellan
>Weyland is after the terraforming technology, not immortality.
>Vickers is not related, but does have big aspirations in the company.
>There is a reference to Engineer Jesus, but Watts (who was religious in the movie) laughs it off.
>The main archaeologists (Holliday & Watts) are very intelligent and extremely excited when they find the dead bodies.
>There are several extra characters in the story, mainly scientists.
>Vickers also brings four soldiers as bodyguards and protection, all armed to the teeth.
>Fifield and the other dork are given a toast for being stupid enough to get lost in the pyramid.
>The Pyramids are terraforming devices, and they are made of living biological matter, capable of seeding worlds as long as they're fully terraformed.
>David does not poison Holliday at all, but Holliday does die by falling deeper into the pyramid and getting facehugged by an evolved facehugger. He gets back to the ship, is about to do Watts, and ends up going into convulsions and chestbursting. The xenomorph escapes and ends up killing a bunch of the crew.
>David is an evil d!ck nonetheless. He figures out the Engineer ship is a doomsday ship named Juggernaut and it was meant to deliver a lethal payload of xenomorphs to Earth, but they were attacked and killed by their own creatures. David has 2 protocols: the first was to discover the terraforming abilities, and the second was to eliminate the scientists. He grabs Watts, brings her to the "armoury" (where the ORIGINAL facehugger eggs are) and has her impregnated with an oldschool xenomorph.
>Watts does use the med bay, but it's to remove the new alien, not a squid baby. The alien escapes through a grate and Watts is left in the med pod for hours (not minutes like the movie), and she gets crazy extensive surgery. When she awakes she sees a soldier coming in and he is killed by the alien. While he's being fed on, she slowly gets out, grabs his gun, and unloads on the alien, killing it.
>The remaining crew (Vickers, Watts, a couple soldiers & randoms) go in to find David because he locked the engine controls to prevent escape from the moon. They find David, he resurrects an Engineer that was in stasis (last to survive massacre) and the Engineer goes apeshiat, rips David's head off, and attacks the others. Most escape, but Vickers and a soldier find resurrected Fifield (much grosser than the movie) and he attacks. He mortally wounds soldier, jumps on Vickers, but soldier shoots him and he erupts acid all over Vickers, essentially melting her to goo.
>The Engineer gets to the captain's chair (like in ALIEN where he's found) and starts to take off. Meanwhile Watts is driving back to the Magellan. Janek (ship's pilot) is in the command center when evolved weird alien attacks. It bites him, but Watts comes in and kills it with multiple head shots. They take off determined to ram the engineer's ship. During this the Engineer's chest erupts and a super alien comes out, thus leaving the Engineer where he was found in ALIEN. Ship starts descending, but David's head radios Watts and says auto-pilot is engaging. They ram the ship, Janek is killed, but Watts escapes in a pod. She has to do the same run-away as Vickers did in the movie from the engineer ship, but she does the smart thing and turns 90 degrees.
>Finally she has to fight the super xenomorph, kills it, and lives in Vicker's luxury pod while waiting for a rescue party and playing chess with Head of David.
>Each pyramid on the moon emits a beam/beacon into space . . .

THE END

Damon Lindehof = Rob Liefeld

The DVD extras reveal how the filmmakers changed the script on a daily basis, which is always a good recipe for utter trainwreck salad.

___

I wish we got that...

Darn. I too, wish we could've got that version. Sounded fantastic!

 

[SixMillionDollarMan Guy]

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Thank you so much!

*ordered*

 

[PsychoCenobite]

I bet that if they had of made the film using the other script, that people would have still pulled it apart...

Some of it might read okay but when actually on the screen it would probably have similar problems.

I'm still a fan of the Theatrical and Extended Cut of "Prometheus" and look forward to seeing a possible sequel.

PsychoCenobite

 

[greygoose]

I bet that if they had of made the film using the other script, that people would have still pulled it apart...

 

[SixMillionDollarMan Guy]

I bet that if they had of made the film using the other script, that people would have still pulled it apart...

Agreed!

 

[RIDDICK]

I bet that if they had of made the film using the other script, that people would have still pulled it apart...

OFCOURSE!
ALIEN can't have a prequel, but at least the movie itself would be watchable.

 

[abake]

I bet that if they had of made the film using the other script, that people would have still pulled it apart...

Some of it might read okay but when actually on the screen it would probably have similar problems.

I'm still a fan of the Theatrical and Extended Cut of "Prometheus" and look forward to seeing a possible sequel.

PsychoCenobite

What extended cut?
Hadn't heard of this before...

 

[karamazov80]

Any movie can be criticized on some level, but it seems like major logical consistencies could be avoided, even when you have a complex movie with lots of moving parts. Particularly when you have all this money to throw at something. Millions and millions of dollars! People should be checking for these things at the script writing stage, and should always be cognizant of changes made during production IMO.

I still enjoyed the film, but it took some of the enjoyment away, and kept it from being greater than it could have been. By no means is that the litmus test for what makes a great movie, but it can really hurt a movie and take a view out of the experience. Particularly when the filmmakers are obviously trying to be taken seriously like they were here.

 

[PsychoCenobite]

What extended cut?
Hadn't heard of this before...

It's called the Weyland Investors Extended Cut by Antonvolk (Anton Volkov).

If you search for that then you should come across it.

Basically it adds back in the deleted scenes. It won't change the film enough if you didn't like the Theatrical version, but for me it add a little more to the film, which I already liked.

PsychoCenobite

 

[abake]

Oh yeah, I remember now!
Sorry about that, thanks.

 

[abake]

Been watching the making-of documentary on the 4-disc set, and I'm actually appreciating more what Scott's vision was.
Even though I might have enjoyed a more straight-forward Alien prequel, I can understand Scott's willingness to do something different and not just re-tread old themes. It might not have worked perfectly, but it was what he's always done best: push the limits on his very particular vision. That is what brought us Alien, Blade Runner, Black Hawk Down and Gladiator, among other great or not so great movies.