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Well, I'm sure people are sick of me trumpeting out the Ultimates ties to the films being released but if they follow that trend, you just might get your wish.
 
I thought Hulk made a great "villain" in Ultimates. I actually prefer Hulk to be a Mr. Hyde type character driven by the baser human instincts than a hero.
 
Producer Peter Billingsley on Forging Iron Man's Future
Source: Scott Huver June 2, 2008


One of the advantages of maintaining the youthful looks of his child star past is that it makes it easier to spot Iron Man producer Peter Billingsley in a red carpet crowd – even one as distracting as the one at Spike TV's Guy's Choice Awards amid unarmored eye candy like Marisa Miller and Tila Tequila. But spot him ComingSoon.net/Superhero Hype! did, and we managed to unbolt a taste of the plans he and director Jon Favreau have for the 2010 sequel to this summer's smash superhero hit.

CS/SHH!: Are you guys already working on your plans for the next one?
Billingsley: Absolutely. I guess that Marvel kind of controls a lot of that stuff and they seem to have a plan about these things and how they're laid out. I think "The Avengers," now that we can speak publicly about it, will be coming out as well. So we're just thrilled at how much people are loving the film and how well it has done.

CS/SHH!: Any "Iron Man" storylines from the comics that you're primed to adapt for the sequel?
Billingsley: Nothing has really been decided yet, but I'll tell you that there's just such a wealth of great stories. We tease The Ten Rings in the first one for all the comic book fans, so there MIGHT be something there. There's so much to take advantage of, but the most exciting part is that, always, when he's in the suit it's going to be great, because you've got the technology to do it and with Robert and this cast there's so much we can do when he's not in the suit. So I think exploring Tony Stark, his father and sort of more of the dark side of Tony, it's a great opportunity.

CS/SHH!: Jon has said previously he'd be interested in directing the "Avengers" film that's planned for release after the "Iron Man" sequel. Have you started down that road at all?
Billingsley: No. There's been nothing officially discussed. I think that "Iron Man" would be a pretty fun thing to do again and there's really a lot to do with that title. And having Robert and that great cast, Gwyneth [Paltrow] and Terrence [Howard] – there's really, really a LOT to do.

CS/SHH!: Watching this phenomenal success happen for Robert, seeing him embraced by the public and the film after such a long and rocky ride – what's that been like to witness?
Billingsley: It's pretty great. I think he really is THAT guy. I think he's been around for a long time and it couldn't happen to a nicer or more talented guy, and I think we've really just seen the tip of the iceberg with him now. He's in "The Soloist," he's in "Tropic Thunder" and everyone in town wants him. He's just as good as it gets.

CS/SHH!: Are you working on anything else with Jon and Vince Vaughn? You guys have been friends since the early days, the pre-"Swingers" days.
Billingsley: I'm producing "Four Christmases" with Vince and Reese Witherspoon now, which will be out Thanksgiving Day weekend. So a lot of fun stuff going on with that. It was awesome, a lot of fun. Reese and Vince have a great chemistry and it's a big, funny, romantic comedy Christmas movie.

Iron Man 2 is scheduled for an April 30, 2010 release. Marvel Studios is targeting a July, 2011 release for The Avengers.
 
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Jon Favreau on Iron Man 2!
Source: Superhero Hype! June 5, 2008


ComingSoon.net/Superhero Hype! visited the set of DreamWorks' upcoming comedy, I Love You, Man, and got a chance to talk to Iron Man director Jon Favreau, who plays a role in the comedy, opening in theaters on January 16, 2009. The comedy co-stars Paul Rudd, Jason Segel, Jaime Pressly and Rashida Jones. With Iron Man 2 already set for an April 30, 2010 release, we asked Favreau for an update. He talked about the sequel, the other upcoming Marvel Studios movies and even films like Hancock and The Dark Knight:

CS/SHH!: "Iron Man" did really well.
Jon Favreau: Really, really good. You guys were the only ones who gave a ^^^^^ before Comic-Con. Then since Comic-Con, everything just started to build, then people got excited by it, and then we just were at the MTV Awards a couple of days ago. Everybody online voted for the movie, we got some golden popcorn, and you could tell by the reviews and box office that everybody seems to have jumped on board and really loves the movie. That is really, really gratifying for all of us who worked so hard for so many years on the thing.

CS/SHH!: So now you are back to being in front of the camera and goofing off?
Favreau: Yeah, it was pretty interesting. I am definitely a supporting character and this is a big ensemble comedy. There is a lot of sitting around in your little trailer. It was like right after "Iron Man" and I'm on it, and everybody was like, "Why are you here?" I said to Robert [Downey Jr.] "It's really weird to go from directing a big, big movie, and going around the world with you for three weeks, and having the red carpet rolled out for us all across Europe, Asia, Australia, and then you come back. You are sitting in your little trailer doing a little comedy." He says, "It's the best thing you could do. Trap wood and carry water." It's very easy to lose your bearings when something very wonderful happens, or when something really devastating happens. It tends to throw your whole life off. I know when I've experienced that in the past it throws you off. You lose your bearings. It was very nice to come here and work for a director like John Hamburg, who is a really good guy, and it's a really great ensemble of performers. It was great just to be able to dive into something where all I had to worry about was being funny, knowing my lines, and being a good scene partner.

CS/SHH!: How big is your role in this? How many days are you shooting on this?
Favreau: I'm shooting about 2 weeks all told. Some of those are like wedding scenes and things like that, so I don't have a big part, but the scenes I am in are a lot of fun. Look, it's hard to schedule me into a movie. It takes somebody to go out of their way to make it fit my schedule because I like to stay in town. When you are working on a film like "Iron Man," that thing takes two years and that's your top priority, so it has to squeeze between your day job gigs.

CS/SHH!: Are you still working on DVD features?
Favreau: Yeah, we are going to do a commentary. I just got delivered a whole bunch of extras that look really, really good. We had cameras on the set all the time. They put together something for "Iron Man" that spans from the first story meetings, to designing the suit, all the way through mixing it up at Skywalker Ranch, through the premiere. There are hours and hours of great stuff that will be available eventually. We have to look over all of that stuff so there is still a lot of work to be done. Then there is trying to figure out where the hell we are now and what we are doing.

CS/SHH!: Would you launch into another two year movie after this?
Favreau: Yeah, I would do it. Hopefully we'll figure out how to get "Iron Man 2" going and I'll be involved with that. You have got to out-do what you did before. So, if the last one took two years, we would need at least that to do what we are talking about, or at least thinking about. Nobody knew about "Iron Man," and that was a disadvantage in some ways, but nobody expected anything. I think people were pleased based on the fact that they had no preconceptions about the project. Now, we have a movie that people seem to like and you can't give them less. You have to give them more. There are challenges that come with that as well as the benefit of people already understanding who he is and the character. We told the origin story so where do you go from here? There are plenty of story lines to explore from the 40 years of history from that character.

CS/SHH!: Have you chosen anything?
Favreau: No, we haven't. I haven't been hired to do it yet. I know that Robert and I have talked a lot about what types of things we would like to do, and how to play into the strengths of what we discovered last time around. I look forward to rolling up my sleeves. Hopefully that won't be too long in coming.

CS/SHH!: Kevin Feige said that he was pretty confident that you guys would get something going pretty quickly. Peter Billingsley said the same thing as well.
Favreau: Yeah, Kevin is just a gem of a guy. He really walked the line very well of being the guy who is in charge of movies, and the studio, as well as being my producer and somebody who oversaw the way that the source material was being dealt with. That is a lot of hats for a guy to wear. It was a fairly new position for him. I don't think that he has ever had the responsibility he had on "Iron Man" before. I know that he has worked on "The Incredible Hulk" since then, but its great to have a mix of somebody who respects the source material and doesn't just treat it like something you can use or discard as you see fit, and was very supportive in getting us what we needed to make a good movie. The casting of Robert, the visual effects budget, working with the right vendors, but he had a very high standard of quality control in the film. He was also very helpful in helping me understand the genre, and what people expect from it, while still giving Robert and I the room to have a very different take on the material. We broke a lot of the rules that the genre normally has. We have all been rewarded for taking the chances that we did.

CS/SHH!: I know that Samuel L. Jackson talked about expanding Nick Fury's role for a second film.
Favreau: Oh, good.

CS/SHH!: So, it's news to you?
Favreau: I'm not in the loop on that unfortunately. I think that Marvel has their hands full right now. They have another big movie coming out right now, with "The Incredible Hulk," and that's coming out in a couple of weeks. I know from when I was in that position on "Iron Man" a lot of the heavy lifting for the studio comes in at this stage in the game. They are partnering up with Universal trying to figure out how to roll out the marketing campaign for that, so a lot is riding on that film. I know that they are done creatively working on it, but that is only half the game, so I think right now it's a small studio. There are not a lot of people and I'm sure they have their hands full on that one. Hopefully when the dust settles everybody will be ready to get their head in the game and try to make some more movies.

CS/SHH!: It's obvious that in "The Incredible Hulk" there is the super soldier serum and Captain America's shield in your film. So, is there a story there already with Captain America that you guys will put in?
Favreau: Yeah, truth be told it's more like instinctively we are gravitating towards combining certain properties, but you don't really discover how that happens until you roll your sleeves up and get into the story telling. You do casting. There are a lot of ideas floating around. We will have conversations as we all gather and paw the ground in the parking lots. We'll kick rocks around and start having conversations where we let our imaginations go wild. It's not like we've sat down with a dry erase board and wrote through the whole line of stories. For me I'm pretty confident about who Iron Man is, what that character is, and what the rules of that world are. Maybe Marvel knows, but I have no idea how you relate that reality to the reality of Thor, which seems like a very different set of rules to that universe. Captain America I get, I understand how that would relate, or The Hulk. Especially if you are working towards the idea of doing "The Avengers," how do you make those worlds all feel consistent with one another in the look of the film, the casting of the film, and then the look of the visual effect.

CS/SHH!: I guess you will just have to direct all of them.
Favreau: [laughs] I would love to. Clearly I have stated that "The Avengers" would be fun. But I look at their release schedule and they have announced "Iron Man 2" for 2010 and then "Avengers" for 2011. I know from experience there is no way I could. I don't know what they have in mind, but there is no way that "The Avengers" could be done in a year. Either they are thinking about somebody else doing it or they have something up their sleeve that I don't know. I know these movies take time to get right. I know that you have to have a good script. You have to understand where you are headed when you go into it, otherwise you are relying on blind luck and hard work. It's good to have a game plan, especially at this stage in the game, it's important to understand where all of this is going. All of these properties are working together and I know Kevin has been very diligent about trying to keep a consistency. I will look forward to having these conversations with the guys at Marvel, to laying out all the puzzle pieces and seeing how they fit together.

CS/SHH!: 2010 is pretty soon if you think about it. Is it just an understanding with Robert, you, and everyone just knows it will be a five year thing and you launch into it?
Favreau: I don't know how that works. I've never worked in that world before. I have never done a sequel to a film, nor have I in the past worked on anything where a sequel felt organic. I think it's the nature of "Iron Man" because it comes from a serialized piece of source material, that it does lend itself to having sequels. It's all new ground for me, it's new ground for Marvel, although they have been partnered up and done sequels with other studios. There are a lot of different approaches you could take. Hopefully we end up going for a sequel that is going to be bigger and better than the first one. That's not always the case with sequels. Sometimes you end up trying to do just rush, and hit a release date. Hopefully this sequel will be driven by the material and driven by good ideas. I think that is what got Marvel the success that they have had as an independent studio. I have no doubt that they are going to continue with that philosophy of letting the source material, and the quality of the story, dictate all the other decisions. They are not shackled down by what a normal studio, with a release schedule, has to contend with.

CS/SHH!: But the team is pretty much the same?
Favreau: I know that all the actors are definitely in active negotiations. All of that has been agreed to, which is really encouraging, because I think the cast was a big part of the success of that as much if not more than "Iron Man" the character. I think that as long as you got all those people together, and you have a solid take on the material, then I expect great things.

CS/SHH!: "Demon in a Bottle"?
Favreau: Yeah, I mean that one is definitely brought up a lot. How do you handle "Demon in a Bottle" and when does it come in? I think it happened in the '80s, which was 20 years after the first "Tales of Suspense" so when do you play that card? When do you play the "Demon in a Bottle" card? We sort of tip our hat to it, and certainly there is a lot to be mined there, but it's all a puzzle. How does it fit in? "Demon in a Bottle" also relates to War Machine and James Rhodes's arc. What villains are you dealing with and how much effort do you put into revealing a whole set of characters. We really spent most of the time dealing with Tony in this one, explaining who he is, and why he is the way that he is so that now Iron Man comes to life. You then have to reveal, I think, some heavy duty, heavy weight bad guys that you could then counter balance this incredibly powerful super hero.

CS/SHH!: You introduce The Ten Rings...
Favreau: We have The Ten Rings in there, but the Mandarin is still there. I'm glad that we didn't try to attack the Mandarin the first time around. There is a lot that is very relevant about that character, in the pool of the landscape that we find ourselves in, but there is something off putting and distasteful about the way that the Mandarin had been presented back in the '60s. I don't think that is relevant anymore. How do you maintain the core spirit of what makes that villain so formidable without having something that either seemed out of our reality, as far as what his abilities are, or the way he is depicted.

CS/SHH!: In "Demon in a Bottle" there weren't really a lot of villains. It was when Tony realized he wants to be Iron Man again, James was like, "I don't think so."
Favreau: So you have to create. I also want to see what other movies are doing. It seems that "Hancock" is dealing with a lot of those issues too. The comic book fans might see "Demon in a Bottle" as a fresh story line but I haven't seen "Hancock" yet. From what I've seen it seems there is a lot of imagery that seems to be shared. Him flying through billboards and things. The idea of the hero whose biggest enemy is himself, and him fighting through his demons, you want to come at the audience with something fresh. You don't want to feel like you are echoing something that somebody else is doing. I think you have to look at the comics, look at what else Marvel is doing, but then you have to look at the landscape of superhero films. There are so many out there. I think that part of the reason that "Iron Man" was so successful was that we really chose to break new ground in a new area tonally, cast wise, the way we depict the hero, what his abilities are. It felt fresh in a genre that is beginning to feel stale if it's not done with the proper amount of inspiration and a strong voice or tone. I think as the summer roles out, and I'm really curious about "The Dark Knight" to be honest with you. That was this looming presence that we knew was going to be a great film. I have no doubt that it's going to be phenomenal. I think our big saving grace was the fact that we had a couple of months between that film and us and there was room for both of us. We weren't fighting for shelf space. Even though we weren't going head to head, it was very clear that we could not take this character that on paper could seem very similar to Batman, and I have no doubt that just the inception of "Iron Man" was a reaction to DC. It was definitely borrowed a lot from DC because here you have the billionaire bachelor guy, who was struggling with inner conflict, and he has no super powers. He invents his own suit and his abilities come from himself. He's a self-made hero. We had to really steer clear of everything that "The Dark Knight" was doing. I have tremendous respect for their cast, for [Christopher] Nolan, and so I want to see what they do. I definitely don't want to fight for the same territory as them. There is plenty of room to tell these stories. As a fan I'm really looking forward to it and I have a lot of respect for the way they approach the material too. He has no second unit on his films. He does all the directing himself. If they are going to do some IMAX work then they shoot it in IMAX. He put together a cast in a way that broke ground for me to be able to use the cast that I did. They made sure the script was perfect before they started shooting it and that's not typical for all superhero films. A lot of times they just throw them together and try to do them as inexpensively as they can. They try to chase the poster and chase the date. They put a lot of care into that film. I'm looking forward to see how it pays off. From everything I've seen so far my hat is off to them. I look forward to checking that film out. I have something to talk about, so that's pretty kick ass.
 
Iron Man's Repulsors Set on The Mandarin for Sequel
By John Scott Lewinski June 07, 2008 | 4:56:51 AMCategories: Comics, Movies, Sci-Fi

With the Incredible Hulk tracking surprisingly well and threatening to smash Iron Man's box office records next weekend, director Jon Favreau is keeping Tony Stark and company in the news by hinting at the plot of the Iron Man sequel.

When the original film made mention of the terrorist organization The 10 Rings, it was a clear reference to Marvel history and the alien artifacts The Mandarin discovered before beginning his career of oppression and supervillainy. It seemed like a pretty obvious clue from Favreau and his writers that Iron Man's arch-nemesis would appear in a sequel.

Now, with the director saying he needs "heavy duty, heavyweight bad guys" to confront Iron Man in the next film, Mandarin seems all but a lock. There's no mention of casting yet for the Far Eastern troublemaker, but that will have to break soon, as Robert Downey Jr. will be ready to begin filming in the golden titanium suit again when he finishes the Hugh Hefner biography he's working on now.
 
I hope that this isn't true and Marvel will pull their heads out of their asses and do the right thing, it would piss me off big time if they don't!

https://www.aintitcool.com/node/37037

Regarding the rumors that Marvel won't bring back Jon Favreau for IRON MAN 2...

Hey folks, Harry here... IESB.net broke a story about how they're hearing that the reason Jon Favreau isn't secured to direct IRON MAN 2 is that Marvel Studios Head Honcho - David Maisel is skimping and being cheap regards to making Jon Favreau's deal.

I wish I could come on here and say I know otherwise, but sadly I know otherwise. There is a very very strong chance that unless David Maisel pulls his head out of his ass and work on this deal - you'll see Jon Favreau directing anything but an IRON MAN 2 or an AVENGERS movie.

While the details of Favreau's deal on the first IRON MAN are not public knowledge - he was paid an upfront fee - with real backend participation. Given the success that is clearly happening with IRON MAN - this deal is going to reward MARVEL STUDIOS greatly.

That said - MARVEL should look back at their own Comic History - their history of ^^^^ing over the talent and artists that created much of their library often resulted in those artist leaving the company... creating incredibly profitable characters for other companies and for themselves - resulting in lost revenue for MARVEL that had they treated their artists fairly and justly - rewarding those that brought in the rewards for the company... well, maybe Marvel's comic branch wouldn't have been through such a grotesque roller coaster ride.

Jon Favreau wants to do more IRON MAN movies. He would love to play in the Marvel Universe. Sadly... David Maisel is penny pinching his own company into a malignant purplenurple.

MARVEL STUDIOS has - officially two movies under their belt. IRON MAN & THE INCREDIBLE HULK. Both of which are outstanding films that do a better job of exploiting their characters than anything the Studio system has done so far. However - MARVEL INVESTORS - watch carefully what happens here. If you see MARVEL unwilling to do what is necessary to keep the talent in play - then forget about MARVEL STUDIOS becoming the Pixar of Superhero films.

PIXAR is the model of how to do this. They not only developed internal talent, but hired great talent from other companies - and they're doing everything in their power to keep those incredibly talented and creative people happily working in house.

Running a studio and creating franchises is all about Talent management - and if MARVEL doesn't step up and do the right thing - then all our dreams about a great MARVEL UNIVERSE will begin to wash away.

When I brought this up with Kevin Feige at the Austin screening of THE INCREDIBLE HULK - he said they would be working with Favreau - but that isn't what I've heard from other sources - and it isn't what IESB is hearing either.

The dream of MARVEL STUDIOS is that we don't see stupid decisions like what we saw happen with Fox on X-MEN - where they resort to bringing in "talent" to take over and destroy the work that was already in play.

MARVEL has the opportunity to create franchises that last - not for a few years, but for decades. But they have to make the right decisions and be willing to work with the artists that will grow and evolve the properties into franchises that are worth existing. When an artists' run grows stale, that's when you change horses - not after the first win.
 
Its possible, they gave Avi Arad free reign over the Marvel films done via outside studios and look where they ended up. He was the one pushing for Venom. Favreau already said though if he filmed Iron Man 2 that there would be slim to none chance he'd get a shot to film the Avengers because the timetable already set in place for those films. He actually said in another interview that he expected whomever is helming the Captain America film to probably be paid double duty and do the Avengers as well..
 
They'll probably hire Tim Story for Cap and Avengers...

...and we'll all be let down, clinging lovingly to Favreau's only Iron Man movie for decades...
 
It's really kinda crappy that JF will only do it for more money. Hell, he should just ask for a percentage of the movie. It'd probably be more that he gets paid to direct. I guess no one really does it for what they love anymore, it's all about the cash and that's it. Very sad.
 
JF wants to do it, he's been talking it up, partly because I think he is hoping for fan pressure. I honestly think that because he gets a percentage off of the backend right now with IM 1 that Marvel is losing a ton and doesn't want to offer him the same deal for IM 2. Marvel is nickel and diming JF not the other way around.
 
Ah, the article from FirstShowing.net reads the other way around.

Haha, so they gave him to much and now they want him to do a movie that will make even more money for less?? WTF?? Marvel Studios must have some ^^^^ing rerod execs!
 
In reality as the director of The Hulk put out a lot of what is released is all spin and hearsay. For IM 2 to be on track they'd have to start PreProduction by the end of the summer and be filming in mid 2009. So they should be announcing the set director very soon. We already know that the cast is in place.
 
I learned this morning that Marvel Studios boss David Maisel very recently put out an offer to Jon Favreau to direct the sequel and that the offer is "definitely" richer than what the helmer received for the original. Even so, the negotiation has only just begun. So all that Internet blather about how Marvel doesn't want to bring back Favreau because the studio is lowballing him is just b.s. As an insider told me, "They're not paying him the same wage. They're definitely paying him a higher fee to direct this one. What, do people think Marvel is stupid? Of course, the movie was successful, so they're offering him more."

Awesome! Things are heading in the right direction!!!

https://www.deadlinehollywooddaily.com/regarding-all-those-iron-man-2-rumors/
 
All this news just makes me salivate for the next movies. I say we make Mike our official Marvel Movie News Guy. :lol Thanks for all the info.
 
Man I'm glad its looking like JF is coming back.They dont want to break up the chemistry of a great movie.
 
I am seriously devoted to my Marvel. :lol

Check this out: The title art:

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Its from the New York Licensing Expo that just passed....

Article here:

https://moviesblog.mtv.com/2008/06/...or-captain-america-and-avengers-well-sort-of/
 
ON FAVREAU RETURNS FOR 'IRON MAN 2'
A crisis is averted as the director 'irons' out his deal with Marvel Studios!
by Josh Wigler
Posted 7/10/2008

JON FAVREAU RETURNS FOR 'IRON MAN 2'Breathe in... breathe out... breathe in... and breathe out.

No, we're not singing that ridiculous Bush song from "Fear." We're talking about the mass-hyperventilation of fans everywhere wondering whether or not Jon Favreau would return to direct Marvel Studios' "Iron Man 2." Over the past several weeks, rumors have swirled around with Mark III speed that Favreau was departing the series due to scheduling and money disagreements. Many questions arose: "Is Marvel really lowballing the guy who brought over $500 million internationally to their doorstep? Will Happy Hogan's shining face be absent from the sequel? If Favreau's out, is Downey Jr. going to skip town too?? For the love of all things holy, WON'T SOMEBODY THINK ABOUT THE CHILDREN!?!?"

Well save that panic attack for another day, Iron lads and ladies! Hollywood scooper Nikki Finke reported today that Jon Favreau and Marvel have reached a deal for the director to helm "Iron Man 2," with Robert Downey Jr. set to climb aboard as well! Hoo-freaking-ray! The sequel is still scheduled for a 2010 release, and with both Favreau and Downey Jr. involved, fans can release a collective sigh of relief that Tony Stark's next adventure is in good hands”as though there was any serious doubt to begin with.

So, what's the real scoop here? Well, in her article, Nikki Finke calls Jon Favreau an A-hole... the uncensored way! As if! Ms. Finke, prepare for the wrath of a thousand angry repulsor rays (or e-mails) headed your way! Fanmongers, unite!
 
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