Hot Toys Movie Masterpiece 1/6 Mandarin Figure

[LipSmack]

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I think they had to throw in a scene where you find out Killian is a fake name, or that he is the real leader of the 10 rings or something. in the comics he was simply a throw away character who never met tony and died right off the hop. I hate the twist but would have loved it if they had an actual mandarin in the backround (not killian)

I had always hoped that Raza from IM 1 would turn into the mandarin, he was set up so perfectly, oh well

 

[Username]

Even with the twist...

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...I think people need to realize that it WAS supposed to be Killian's idealized image of "The Mandarin". with that in mind, it really makes for an interesting-looking figure that symbolizes the kind of terror he wanted to create (bonus points since you also get "Trevor" in a fancy get up).

I'll admit, I don't get the discontent some people have with Killian's character. Yes, he wasn't imposing or scary, but more than anything he felt more like a character that you were MEANT to hate.

I find his character interesting in that he's sort of a subverted version of Iron Man's nemesis, being the real "Mandarin" and all. By giving him an actual identity than merely a "face", he's turned into something more human than one might think, and his placement in the MCU as one of Tony's very own "demons" makes for an interesting villain than usual. I mean, let's compare him to the other IM villains...

With Stane, he always seemed like the evil uncle who wanted to dethrone the heir by taking over Tony's company and "improvising" (read: stealing) Tony's ideas. Whiplash on the other hand wanted classic revenge in the form of making a statement, specifically by showing the world that Iron Man was not as invincible as he seemed. Then there's Justin Hammer who always saw himself as Tony's rival and superior, especially with his goal of making Iron Man look like an "antique".

Finally we have Killian, a guy who was one of Tony's biggest fans until he got shunned by the very guy he admired. More than anything, Killian WANTED to be like Tony. His schemes involved killing and stealing what Tony had, not so much to do it in front of everyone's eyes (heck why else would he want him quietly assassinated throughout the film?), but rather to outright replace the guy. He employed Maya because she was interested in Tony, and abducted Pepper as his "trophy" simply because she was Tony's lover. In the film's climax, we found out that Killian created his own army of Extremis soldiers with himself powered-up like others whereas in stark contrast we have Tony with his army of Iron Man suits. I find it interesting in that Killian is treated as sort of a mistake, a "demon" that Tony had created in his past lifestyle. As such, the Extremis soldiers and Killian are the "demons" that he eventually had to face, and with the Iron Man suits by his side, what better way to do that than use the very tools that made him into the changed man he is right now. I like how Killian takes responsibility for all of the incidents created by "The Mandarin" claiming that it was truly his fault from the start, admitting that he's the true "Mandarin" that Tony was truly searching for all this time.

To be honest, Killian never seemed scary or imposing in my eyes, but that doesn't mean that he wasn't dangerous at all, and I find that he's definitely one of Tony's most dangerous foes.

Very good points.
Clever.

 

[TotalDominAsian]

Has this guy been officially announced as a MMS? I imagine at most he'd be a late release or even a future toy fair exclusive

 

[Darkmatter]

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why is this concept so difficult to grasp? tony and rhodey walked in on the double and NOT the real mandarin. i think we haven't seen the last of him.

 

[Silasya77]

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why is this concept so difficult to grasp? tony and rhodey walked in on the double and NOT the real mandarin. i think we haven't seen the last of him.

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"What are you, you a double?"
"Uh, No."
"Then tell me, where is the Mandarin?"
"Uhm, he's here, but he's not here, see. It's very difficult to explain."
"You have a minute to live, fill it with words."
"It's just a role? The Mandarin, see, he doesn't exist. I am an actoor."

^off the top of my head. Correct me if I'm wrong.

 

[TotalDominAsian]

Don't worry. He's where I was for 20 min after that scene. In denial.


But maybe if there's enough backlash, they'll try to rewrite something in future movies to pretend like a real terror out there exists... Who needs a fearsome name and adopts his? Lmao those are some fine straws there bud

 

[Darkmatter]

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"What are you, you a double?"
"Uh, No."
"Then tell me, where is the Mandarin?"
"Uhm, he's here, but he's not here, see. It's very difficult to explain."
"You have a minute to live, fill it with words."
"It's just a role? The Mandarin, see, he doesn't exist. I am an actoor."

^off the top of my head. Correct me if I'm wrong.

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think about it... the double would want to keep up the ruse or lose his job. it's a way to overcome the slight that many comic true movie goers are feeling by the 'waste' of the use of a good villain.

 

[RaZaTrOn]

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"What are you, you a double?"
"Uh, No."
"Then tell me, where is the Mandarin?"
"Uhm, he's here, but he's not here, see. It's very difficult to explain."
"You have a minute to live, fill it with words."
"It's just a role? The Mandarin, see, he doesn't exist. I am an actoor."

^off the top of my head. Correct me if I'm wrong.

That's pretty much spot on but..

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if you put that into the context of the movie rather than the scene, Trevor thought it was all fake, he didn't think people were getting killed. He was the unknowing face of the true Mandarin, Killian "I AM THE MANDARIN!" rather than a double, he was more of a scapegoat.

 

[Darkmatter]

That's pretty much spot on but..

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if you put that into the context of the movie rather than the scene, Trevor thought it was all fake, he didn't think people were getting killed. He was the unknowing face of the true Mandarin, Killian "I AM THE MANDARIN!" rather than a double, he was more of a scapegoat.

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and this would explain the shooting of the executive on the tv broadcast. it wasn't done by the fake mandarin, but the real one from an undisclosed location.

 

[RaZaTrOn]

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and this would explain the shooting of the executive on the tv broadcast. it wasn't done by the fake mandarin, but the real one from an undisclosed location.

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Or (and this is what it probably was) it was done by Trevor on set with what he believed was a prop gun and another actor.

 

[SixthScaleEdward]

I'm still having a hard time believing they actually did what they did. Build up the Mandarin to be the big bad guy, completely ignoring Killian in the trailers and posters, etc and then do that!

The entrance to a nearby cinema here has a really big standee of MK42, IP and Killian.

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Or (and this is what it probably was) it was done by Trevor on set with what he believed was a prop gun and another actor.

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In the initial credits, there's a quick clip there where the executive stands up after the airing stops. So yeah, the executive might be another actor.

 

[Hydeous]

Not necessarily. They didn't show his headsculpt, so that might not be done/approved yet.

They did the same thing with Bane.

 

[RaZaTrOn]

The entrance to a near by cinema hear has a really big standee of MK42, IP and Killian.

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In the initial credits, there's a quick clip there where the executive stands up after the airing stops. So yeah, the executive might be another actor.

Oh really? I never saw that! I'll keep an eye out next time I watch it.

 

[Darkmatter]

Oh really? I never saw that! I'll keep an eye out next time I watch it.

i missed that too.

 

[Silasya77]

That's pretty much spot on but..

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if you put that into the context of the movie rather than the scene, Trevor thought it was all fake, he didn't think people were getting killed. He was the unknowing face of the true Mandarin, Killian "I AM THE MANDARIN!" rather than a double, he was more of a scapegoat.

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Well yeah. He didn't know what was going on anyway. He got paid, he acted. That was it. And yeah, I do recall Killian saying "IT HAS ALWAYS BEEN ME" so any hope of getting a 'real' Mandarin either came true or died at that moment, depending on the fan.

I do believe he was high on drugs when he acted though, hence the accent and the shooting. "They gave me more. And then they gave me other things that I've never heard of."

 

[ronri]

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"No more false faces. You said you wanted "The Mandarin"... you're looking right at him. It was always me Tony, right from the start. I am the Mandarin!" -Aldrich Killian

Honestly with that line, I'm perfectly fine with what we got. I wouldn't want to see Marvel cave in from the "fan pressure" (if there's any at all) considering the good job they pulled with Killian, especially if it tramples on the idea of the twist which could result in a blatant cop-out.

 

[Silasya77]

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"No more false faces. You said you wanted "The Mandarin"... you're looking right at him. It was always me Tony, right from the start. I am the Mandarin!" -Aldrich Killian

Honestly with that line, I'm perfectly fine with what we got. I wouldn't want to see Marvel cave in from the "fan pressure" (if there's any at all) considering the good job they pulled with Killian, especially if it tramples on the idea of the twist which could result in a blatant cop-out.

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Yeah. As much as I hate Killian, he was the Mandarin and I wouldn't want to see Marvel just bow to fans wishes and say he was a phony. The character sucked for most, but we should leave it at that. No more Mandarins in the future please.

 

[Mr ?]

After watching the movie, this figure looses all of it's coolness points...
Seriously...

And by misspelling "loses" that post loses all "its" coolness point...seriously.

Mandarin is either the best or the worst comic movie villain ever. I'm leaning toward the former because I'm still in shock. And why aren't people more upset at this movie being called Iron Man 3 instead of the more accurate title of "Tony Stark 3?"

Dark Knight Rises had more Iron Man.

 

[Username]

And by misspelling "loses" that post loses all "its" coolness point...seriously.

Mandarin is either the best or the worst comic movie villain ever. I'm leaning toward the former because I'm still in shock. And why aren't people more upset at this movie being called Iron Man 3 instead of the more accurate title of "Tony Stark 3?"

Dark Knight Rises had more Iron Man.

My name is Barry Murray and I approve of this message.

 

[ronri]

And by misspelling "loses" that post loses all "its" coolness point...seriously.

Mandarin is either the best or the worst comic movie villain ever. I'm leaning toward the former because I'm still in shock. And why aren't people more upset at this movie being called Iron Man 3 instead of the more accurate title of "Tony Stark 3?"

Dark Knight Rises had more Iron Man.

That's because as Tony Stark said... "I am Iron Man."