BadMoon
Demi G0D Overseer
Not trying to bash you, Nash. But a lot of things about this video just scream "political ploy to defame concealed carriers" to me. And it starts with the fact that it is a gun-unfriendlyl news agency running the test and it continues with the name of the videos "PROOF the CCPHs live in a dream world". It is not proof because it is all contrived to ensure that the CCPH fails. In a real situation with a real CC, they would not have acted anywhere near as poorly as those in the video and the assailant(s) would not have been so well rehearsed. Almost all of the aspects of the scenario were built to ensure the failure of the CC. And lets not forget that CC training specifically goes in to detail about how a CC should never assume anything in a critical situation...so a good one will, by his training, never believe he is the savior of the moment.
A few points on the subject:
1) The main subject in these scenarios was not even a real CC...he was a gamer given 5 minutes of training. To even suggest that a true, experienced CC would believe that a video game would give them any tools to work with to be a CC is almost insulting.
2) The main shooter knew who was CC and where they were...in real world...that is not likely with an experienced CC. They know to shut their mouths about carrying so they would not be playing with their weapon under their shirt and trying to impress the girl next to them by telling her they are carrying.
3) In the possibility of multiple assailants, the second one is also not likely to know who and where the CC is. So this means that the CC is not likely to be the second target of the first assailant and the first target of the second one.
4) In the real world, people are not going to run toward the assailant, so it is not as likely that someone will run in front of the CC when he is this close to the front of the room.
5) An experienced CC would know to sit in the back of the room if that is at all possible (thereby making the possibility of an innocent getting in front of him more likely, but that is not what this video shows), and not to jump up and Rambo the assailant. He knows that the first priority is getting cover (preferably), but at least concealment. He would have dropped behind the desks first and then quickly drawn his weapon while he started using what he saw and hears to evaluate his next move. And he likely would then wait to hear the assailant changing magazines before he popped up to fire because he knows that to try to gain fire superiority over someone who has the initiative and is facing you is an act of desparation and only has a real-world use when a soldier is already stuck in an ambush.
6) Adjustments have to be made on the spur of the moment to account for multiple assailants.
7) And experienced CCs also understand that in most states...even if you are a CC...you are required to first attempt to retreat. So getting cover/concealment right away also covers you for that requirement and you can argue that your evaluation of the situation found no other way out than to shoot.
8) And then there is the whole ability-to-put-a round-in-the-assailant thing. Wow! There are some poor shots in that video. An experienced CC is a great deal less likely to suffer that problem. I know damned well that I can put a round in that man's head at that distance with a snub-nosed pistol, so the two .45 rounds in his chest that would be more practical in this case would be a cinch. It then becomes about being level-headed in a given situation, and knowing you can make the shot helps that a lot. Then you just have to get over knowing that they are shooting back but that is aleviated with maintaining cover/concealment until they are changing mags.
9) Oh...and lets not gloss over the fact that it is very unlikely that there will be a CC in a college classroom because most colleges have then banned.
Inexperienced CCs and non-CCs don't realize a very important point...concealed carry is primarily for self defense and not for being a superhero to save lives. There are those who get permitted because their responsibility is protection of others...but not the normal, private CC. So playing Rambo to kill the assailant will normall just get a CC added to list of dead people. In a room of 30 people...if the CC saves 10 and himself...that is ten more people than the permit is intended for.
This is a pretty hastily composed respnse so it may be a little sloppy, but I think it at least gets a few of my thoughts across. As I have been saying, there is good information to take from these videos...it would be a good exercise to make the CC trainee to see how to maintain clarity of thought in a chaotic situation, but it does not accuratelt re-create any real-world scenario. But training is not the intent of these videos. This is an attempt by people who are afraid to let people carry concealed to "prove" that nobody should.
I believe there are situations where non-U.S. citizens can have a gun. But those rules will differ from state to state so it is best to just go to verify it with local experts.
I can't believe you took the time to spell all of that out. Kudos to you.
Agreed. I usually keep my 9c on my waistband, or in my car when I can't take it where I'm going (work, on base, etc.)
