Re: Captain America 2: The Winter Soldier
Glad that more people are seeing this now so I can finally ask this.
One of the things that caught me off guard in this movie is how indestructable Cap is. There were two scenes: 1. The scene where he jumps out of the elevator, and falls like 200 feet and lands on the ground on top of his shield and 2. I believe it was the scene where Cap/Falcon/Widow meet WS and his thugs on the freeway. Cap gets thrown really hard into the bus if I remember correctly?
Anyway, I remember two distinct scenes that made me think "Holy cow, is this Captain America, or Superman"? Since I'm not much of a comic reader I wanted to ask - in the comics is he almost indestructable or something? I was really surprised especially in the elevator scene that he could jump THAT far and walk away.
Hmm, in Avengers he got hurt pretty easily. He seemed more beat up and vulnerable than even Widow and Hawkeye.
Well the nature of Cap's shield in marvel continuity would absorb the kinetic energy of the fall. There is an old issue of Cap where he survives a fall from an airplane but they really stress how he used things to decrease momentum and he still broke ribs.
A couple of things;
1. In a non-confrontational way; who cares?
2. I strongly disagree that Captain America was "more beat up and vulnerable" than Hawkeye and Black Widow in The Avengers. Cap sees a LOT more action than either of them, and his fight scenes are a lot more physical. Hawkeye spends most of his time fighting from afar by shooting arrows, and the minute he gets involved in hand to hand combat, he flees and is then downed for a long time after he crashes through a window. We don't really see him after that, so I presume that he is still down.
Widow gets owned by the Hulk, and also spends a chunk of the final fight in long range combat with her pistols. When she gets involved in hand to hand combat, she does well, but looks exhausted when Cap approaches her about getting to the top of Stark Tower to disable the Tesseract. All she does then is pilot one of the Chitauri gliders to the top and disables the Tesseract.
Cap takes on Loki, deflects Mjolnir, fights a team of Loki-SHIELD agents on the Helicarrier, takes down 4-5 Chitauri alone when trying to co-ordinate the NYPD, takes down a further 3-4 Chitauri in the Bank and saves the hostages, and then fights off further Chitauri whilst taking an alien bullet to the stomach (and gets up). Sure he looks tired after all this, but he is still a human, NOT a super-being.
Which brings me on to...
3. Do people realise he is a human being and not a super-being? His Super Soldier Serum just enhances his skills and body to the peak of human conditioning. He is not a God, nor does he have a suit of combat armour to do his work for him.
4. That being said...remember this; in The Avengers, Captain America had just been thawed out from 70 years of frozen sleep, and was fighting Aliens and Gods from other worlds (Loki and the Chitauri). That's a human soldier versus Gods and Aliens. In this film, I'd say 1-2 years have passed since The Avengers, so Cap has had time to get himself back up to full strength and return his body to his WWII peak. Also, he is on a more level playing field, fighting agents, soldiers, and assassins.