12 shot dead at movie theater

[The Ween]

nothing like coming home to five pages about a stupid sign, that no one in this thread actually has in their yard

Or would ever put in their yard.

I know I would never do that, as much as my neighbors piss me off at times, I'm not going to make it even worse.

 

[Blackthornone]

Do they look that fake and grainey in real life?

Ok, I have seen that message on signs but not necessarily that large.

 

[Niltusk]

I've seen lots of variations of this before posted mainly by people on Facebook. Alot of the people posting it, have neighbors with guns, so I think by and large its just supposed to be funny. I think its basically a novelty item, but theres always a nut going to get upset over anything someone else finds funny.

 

[Star Puffs]

Pretty certain he was talking about you, DA and the like, and your insensitivity of using this horrific tragedy as an excuse to troll a bull____ agenda.

Wow, I finally understand how completely self-deluded you are. Any one can see you have been aggressively and continuously pushing an agenda since page one. This is your usual pattern of behaviour where you relentless troll certain thread, whilst inevitably accusing others of the same.

But please, go ask Dave directly what he meant. It might be a valuable reality check for you.

 

[BadMoon]

For some of the people on here that said all police are bad or whatever. Here's why they are so strict. This is why they have procedures they need to follow. It's unfortunate but this is what they face. The news doesn't cover these to the extent they do when its so happens to be a bad cop doing something wrong. Which is sad.

https://www.cnn.com/video/standard..../07/30/dnt-dashcam-indiana-man-shoot-cop.wish

 

[The Ween]

For some of the people on here that said all police are bad or whatever. Here's why they are so strict. This is why they have procedures they need to follow. It's unfortunate but this is what they face. The news doesn't cover these to the extent they do when its so happens to be a bad cop doing something wrong. Which is sad.

https://www.cnn.com/video/standard..../07/30/dnt-dashcam-indiana-man-shoot-cop.wish

That's for sure. Just like I would never want to be a teacher in this day and age, I sure they hell wouldn't want to be a cop.

 

[thenammagazine]

Wow, I finally understand how completely self-deluded you are. Any one can see you have been aggressively and continuously pushing an agenda since page one. This is your usual pattern of behaviour where you relentless troll certain thread, whilst inevitably accusing others of the same.

But please, go ask Dave directly what he meant. It might be a valuable reality check for you.

Speaking of reality check, I've actually addressed the tragedy in several posts here, unlike you, who has not, yet you continually troll and have with every single one of your 21 posts in this thread, squirting diarrhea out of your fingertips about gun control, using this horrific tragedy as a soapbox for your extremely pathetic and shallow POV which has absolutely nothing whatsoever to do with this incident.

 

[Star Puffs]

I've actually addressed the tragedy in several posts here, unlike you, who has not, yet you continually troll and have with every single one of your 21 posts in this thread, squirting diarrhea out of your fingertips about gun control, using this horrific tragedy as a soapbox for your extremely pathetic and shallow POV which has absolutely nothing whatsoever to do with this incident.

Attacking me will not clarify Dave's meaning any sooner.

The reality is that you are already being called out for your abuse of this tragedy in the second and third posts on this thread.

The reality is also that I have 22 posts on this thread as of this one, you have 138. Devilof76 has 161, Niltusk 119, csi 253, hoodonit00 79, Bad Moon 94, hairlesswookiee 107...the gun nuts have spoken.

 

[thenammagazine]

Attacking me will not clarify Dave's meaning any sooner.

The reality is that you are already being called out for your abuse of this tragedy in the second and third posts on this thread.

The reality is also that I have 22 posts on this thread as of this one, you have 138. Devilof76 has 161, Niltusk 119, csi 253, hoodonit00 79, Bad Moon 94, hairlesswookiee 107...the gun nuts have spoken.

Make that 22 trolling posts from a troll who has yet to even acknowledge a tragedy took place.

 

[devilof76]

The reality is also that I have 22 posts on this thread as of this one, you have 138. Devilof76 has 161, Niltusk 119, csi 253, hoodonit00 79, Bad Moon 94, hairlesswookiee 107...the gun nuts have spoken.

I don't even own a gun.

162.

 

[Star Puffs]

Make that 22 trolling posts from a troll who has yet to even acknowledge a tragedy took place.

How can I be guilty of "using this horrific tragedy as an excuse to troll a bull____ agenda" if I simultaneously fail to "acknowledge a tragedy took place"?

By the way I checked and it took you 40 posts to call this a "tragedy". Oops.

 

[csi]

Attacking me will not clarify Dave's meaning any sooner.

The reality is that you are already being called out for your abuse of this tragedy in the second and third posts on this thread.

The reality is also that I have 22 posts on this thread as of this one, you have 138. Devilof76 has 161, Niltusk 119, csi 253, hoodonit00 79, Bad Moon 94, hairlesswookiee 107...the gun nuts have spoken.

I see that yet again you are incapable of having a dialogue and instead resort to name calling. It a shame you feel the need to be so childish in retort to people who disagree with you. I believe in my 2nd Amendment right to bear arms, guess I am a nut

Btw, believing in your right to own a gun is not mutually exclusive of thinking the Aurora shooting was a tragedy. And weren't you one of the nutjobs in the other thread that was blaming society for what this guy did rather then holding him accountable for it?

 

[hairlesswookiee]

For some of the people on here that said all police are bad or whatever. Here's why they are so strict. This is why they have procedures they need to follow. It's unfortunate but this is what they face. The news doesn't cover these to the extent they do when its so happens to be a bad cop doing something wrong. Which is sad.

I agree, and IMO people that have this hatred of police are usually the ones that have a history of getting in trouble for doing something they shouldn't be doing, and don't like someone telling them what to do.

I don't even own a gun.

 

[nash]

Grief/Bereavement Counseling, Cancer Support Groups, Rape/Sexual Trauma Counseling, PTSD Counseling.



So because you've never been to counseling that means you're better than people that have?

all of those you have listed are traumatic events. no it doesnt make me "better" but i am surely not as "troubled".

no "normal" person goes to a psychiatrist for the hell of it.

 

[hairlesswookiee]

no "normal" person goes to a psychiatrist for the hell of it.

All people that are in or have been in Counseling were "normal" until they exhausted their coping mechanisms for whatever is "troubling" them.

~~Most Psychiatrists aren't directly counseling people. A majority of them provide psychiatric evaluations/assessments, medication management, and clinical supervision.

 

[hairlesswookiee]

sorry but that is the biggest pile of ____ ive heard. if you go to see someone to "cope" you obviously have emotional problems. there's no other way about it.

No one goes to a psychiatrist because they are having a GOOD day. rofl.

Cool story man. That's a very judgmental and narrow minded attitude to have towards people without knowing much about them.

 

[nash]

Cool story man. That's a very judgmental and narrow minded attitude to have towards people without knowing much about them.

so youre telling me people go to pysciatrists because theyve had awesome days? please elaborate mr non-narrow minded.

 

[hairlesswookiee]

so what good and HEALTHY reason is there behind seeing a certified psychiatrist? I myself have never seen or been prescribed to see a psychiatrist in my life.

no it doesnt make me "better" but i am surely not as "troubled".
no "normal" person goes to a psychiatrist for the hell of it.

so youre telling me people go to pysciatrists because theyve had awesome days? please elaborate mr non-narrow minded.

You have a negative stigma of mental health as it is. By stating you've never been "prescribed" to see a psychiatrist and that "normal" people don't go to counseling is judgmental. People aren't "prescribed" for a mental health counselor, they are usually referred to them. Very much like a primary care physician putting in a referral to a ENT specialist.

Unless a person is mandated by the court to see a Psychiatrist, they are all voluntarily going. A person can choose to go, or choose not to go. And not everybody is going because they're not having an "awesome" day. That's a straw man argument.

 

[hairlesswookiee]

and FYI, yes it is a big deal because in Hawaii and probably california...if youve been to a psychiatirst of any kind, you will not pass your background check to purchase any firearms. No matter how non-chalant you may think these visits are.

Link to back this up?? Most states it says "involuntarily hospitalized to an inpatient setting."

A normal background check won't pull up your mental health records as they are protected under HIPPA (Health Information Privacy Protection Act). Only a court order can release these without the patient's permission.


According to this site a person needs to be Sane. Just because someone is in Counseling doesn't make them Insane.

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NICS/Background Check:
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2. Citizen of the United States
3. At least 21 years of age
4. Qualify to own a firearm under Section 7 of Chapter 134 of the Hawaii State Statutes. This section describes the disqualifying criminal background factors.
5. Sane
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Renewal Information:

Change of Name or Address:

Lost, Stolen, or Damaged Permits:

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Places off-limits when carrying:

Alcohol and Drugs:
It is unlawful for a person to own, possess or control any firearm or ammunition if he is a fugitive from justice or has been convicted of a felony or of the illegal use, possession or sale of any drug, any person who is less than 25 and has been adjudicated by the family court to have committed a felony, two or more crimes of violence, or illegal sale of drugs; addicted to alcohol, committed to a mental institution or has been diagnosed as having mental disorders unless the person has been medically documented to be no longer adversely affected by the addiction, abuse, dependence or mental illness; or any person under a restraining order by any court.

https://www.usacarry.com/hawaii_concealed_carry_permit_information.html

 

[hairlesswookiee]

calling it anything else is trying to cover up the fact that youve been to a psychiatrist in the first place. we are adults here, not children. stop trying to pull bull____ terminology and paint a different picture.

And yes, I've been to a Psychiatrist. I get my health care from the Veteran's Affairs, and EVERYBODY that does will be be screened in mental health at least once.