Josh-A-Tron
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That was also removed and if you do the math on 20" tall statue with a short base and the fact that hes got bent knees the argument that this is 1/5 scale goes out the window.
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Well, it's listed as a PF so it pretty much HAS to be a 1/4 scale statue...
BurningRage
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Only buying if it's 1/5 and pvc.
I still think it looks like him... For those to say it looks nothing like him just boggles my mind. Is it as accurate as Prime 1.. No... But while prime 1 has managed to make a very accurate Heath Sculpt... they also managed to miss the essence of the character from that film IMO...
I think the biggest thing going against the SSC version is the hair.. Because it's so wet and close to his head it takes away form the look of Heath's Joker... Prime 1 about nailed it in fully sculpted form.
Again.. Very few statues of Actors are 100% accurate.. TDK Joker is not either.. But it looks like him.. I think the pics I put up looks like Heath.. If I look at a real photo and then go back to the PF, I see heath... If I compare them and examine ever single little inch then no... I see some issues... But again it also depends on the shot in the film.. Sometimes Heaths Jaw looks a bit more pointy, other times more round.. Sometimes his head seems more round and others more sleek... So on an so forth.. Like so
I think SSC did a fine job... I think they nailed the essence of the character from that film with Pose and sculpt.
Having said that.. He does not look as good here..
I prefer the EX with Non light up feature.. I would never use it. Sure once or twice after I got it but its not a must IMO. I prefer to have it look lit all the time.. In the dark I can't see the rest of my statues so Why would I have two white eyes staring at me from the dark.
Just a non essential thing IMO because they are painted to look on.
What I would have preferred are a couple more switch out parts. Seeing what XM and Prime 1 give you, a few more options would be nice is all. Just seems SSC takes the easiest route possible on EX pieces these days. I used to love the EX additions and now they are all just meh for the most part...
I am not a statue person but this statue is awesome. I haven't gone over the fine details of the suit or anything but the cowl and likeness look pretty damn good. Love the pose too. Too bad I don't feel the same about their Ledger Joker, at least as far as likeness goes. Very Hot Toys-esque in the handling of it. Better off buying that ridiculously awesome Prime 1 statue regardless of scale.
starscream0
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Just to clear up the 1/5 nonsense...someone asked Sideshow about the scale on the Joker PF "coming soon" page. This is Sideshows response:
This is a Premium Format figure, so it will be in 1/4th scale. - Danny
This is a Premium Format figure, so it will be in 1/4th scale. - Danny
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Good enough for me. Will PO this or a regular down the line. Does anyone know if you can use reward points and credit at the same time to PO? SSC gave me some credit from my Emma PF that I can use at anytime and I'm curious if I can combine that with reward points to order this.
You can only use one or the other
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Thanks for that. Good to see clarification. Sideshow needs to be a little more thorough with their proof reading.
starscream0
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For $500+ to your door this should definitely pack more oomph. I get the argument that light up features can crap out and leave you with a busted EX head, but Sideshow could have at least provided an alternate expression portrait EX. As a stand alone the sonar look is alright, but pairing that with Joker depicting that scene on the street makes no sense imo.
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Boggles your mind? name one thing that is accurate about it, one feature? I can't name one feature on it that is accurate.
I think most people agree with that as the expression is just so dam dull, however, I would rather that then having a sculpt with practically no likeness at all.
I am not sure what you mean by that comment because someone's facial bone structure can not change. If someone's head shape is round then it will always be round, granted if someone puts on a lot of weight they can change the look of their Jaw and chin as their face can become puffy and the jaw line will become rounder. Nevertheless, their head shape will remain the same. Unless you mean on certain angles these features look different? Nevertheless, the head, jaw and chin shape is inaccurate on EVERY angle and your comparison pictures are actually proving that point. Look at the brow shape and jaw line on the last Mob scene screen shot and compare it to the the bottom pics of the Sideshow sculpt below that you posted.
I don't see how that looks worse than any of the other pictures of it.
White eyes? They would be blue LED lights like Iron man's light up feature, why you may not think that feature is important some of us do.
Yes like I said, looks similar to the DX11, very cartoonish, which is what this sculptor is known for like his Reeve lacked a lot of realism. However, he is very good at sculpting fantasy characters and creatures like the ones from LOTRs.
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Oh I don't know.... All of it... It looks good and those that saw it at SDCC thought it was one of the best pieces.... Watching youtube video's made me think the likness was even better. You don't see Heath but I do.... That's OK. It just boggles both of our minds.
We will have to agree to disagree on the likness.... Because normally I would agree with you.... I would not want a Indiana Jones statue that did not look like Ford.... Having said that I would not buy a perfect Ford Sculpted statue if he looked sad and his stance was boring... Both would be fails in my eyes...
But you like Prime 1 and that's cool.... I think SSC is the far better piece overall because I think It looks like Heath and the pose is great though I am not in love with the card.
But your face can look different with how make up is applied... And the Jokers make up looks a bit different very often I the film. From having lots of it, having it wear off, to not having and. Add to the fact all the over the top facial expressions he makes...
That is what I mean.
Having said that... the two pics you ask me to compare... Well for one that is the worst pic of the PF... I don't know if it's the flash or what but his JAW looks huge... I will agree... But I like comparing the other two which are closer to the same angle..
Here is an example of little thing you do with your face that makes you look different... You refer to the Brow.. Well in the film shot his head is very relaxed and eyes looking up... His Brow is relaxed at the same time he is sucking up his bottom lip and flexing his chin.. The SSC piece has him squinting, with his brow furled and his chin not flexed.. But I look at both of those pics and I see the same guy/actor/character
I will give you that the SSC piece seems to have a slightly large chin... But not enough for me to say it looks nothing like him.
I don't see how that looks worse than any of the other pictures of it.
After watching Youtube videos again I take that back... It looks good from all angles
White/Blue... I don't care... It's not an important part of the Nolan Batman films... It's in the movies for a total of 5 min at best. Its not like IM who has them on all the time... Having said that... Light up features on IM are not that important to me either..... About the only character I would like to have a light up function with is Darth Vader and any other Jedi / Sith with a sword... I have the Droids and their light up features are great... But I never use them... Luckily they look good with the lights of anyways and give that appearance in the tatooine scenes anyways because it's so bright...
I had the 1/4 Dark Knight... And I never even took the other head out of the box because unless I was going to have the lights on all the time I though it looked stupid....
Just not important IMO. I am much more likely to use he EX head with the eyes painted.
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Darkavatar
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That's true, good point.
No I would rather it be a knife and I also like the pose and everything else about it like the color and tailoring of the suit.
That really has nothing to do with facial structure likeness though, as you can't change the shape of these features with expressions. However, his cheeks tend to bulge out at times because of the prosthetics, which does to some extent change the shape of the lower part of the face, but not really the shape of the jaw line below the cheeks.
I would say it has to do with angle the photo was taken on.
Here is an example of little thing you do with your face that makes you look different... You refer to the Brow.. Well in the film shot his head is very relaxed and eyes looking up... His Brow is relaxed at the same time he is sucking up his bottom lip and flexing his chin.. The SSC piece has him squinting, with his brow furled and his chin not flexed.. But I look at both of those pics and I see the same guy/actor/character
That doesn't matter, I am talking about the brow bone shape, that can not be altered, regardless of expression. The shape of the brow bone is actually sculpted with a frown, just like EBs is, only this one is worse because the brow bone is really pronounced like a cave mans.
It's not just the large chin it's the jaw shape, it's too smooth and round, which is one factor other than the cave man frowning brow bone that accounts for the lack of likeness as Ledger had more of a square jaw shape (this is evident in the pics below, which ironically are the pictures you posted to show how accurate the sculpt is.)
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After watching Youtube videos again I take that back... It looks good from all angles
Well I am the direct opposite to you then. Anyway JAWs, even though I can't see any likeness at all doesn't mean there isn't, I just can't see it. I think we have both said our peace on this and while I like having these discussions with you, talking about the Joker here is getting off topic. So for now I think we will just have to agree to disagree.
I know but I still wish they included it was all, I probably wouldn't use it much either but I just wish they made it like that. But it is what it is.
Wow you actually bought a figure? I thought you were only a statue collector.
Why? What benefit does that have over the light up feature?
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afattori
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Shame these new pf priced are pushing me out of collecting pf. I just started with pf this year. Superman being my first, and Batgirl. Preordered Arkham exclusive Joker and modern age Bats. Would like ledger joker and bale bats, but for a grand for both, tough to pull trigger.
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You can always do the eBay thing. Eventually most will show up at a reasonable price. The so called grail days are pretty much over with a few exceptions here and there. Not much goes up in value anymore other than the older pieces. I've been able to pick up some older pieces at lower prices too. Just gotta wait for the right deal.
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