Spliff
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that said, the only thing that makes his suit Iron Manish are his boots. those are overtly complicated and non-sensical.
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GasparZizou
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Personally, it doesn't bother me if Batman ever found the need to add high-tech armor on top of his suit. There are already so many renditions of Batman, that a simple change in costume design is forgivable.
The classic suit from 89' Batman is my favorite, but I can appreciate all of them (even the ones from the Nolan series).
The classic suit from 89' Batman is my favorite, but I can appreciate all of them (even the ones from the Nolan series).
DiFabio
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I think the TDK suit is over designed too with those nonsensical puzzle piece pants. It ain't my favorite suit, not by a long shot.
The "Motocross Knight in armor with his trusty steed (Batpod)" thing they had going on in 2008 works for me though. I dig it. Better than this "Bat-Mecha" Iron Man thing with ****ing paneled breast plates that open and close. There was nothing wrong with the Asylum/City suits. They evoked the comics and "real life" quite well and you felt like Batman playing the game. Even the Origins suit which got into the Tactical/Nolan territory was nice and simple looking compared to this monstrosity. If it ain't broke, don't fix it. This obsession with paneling up Batman with all these lines and plates and robot parts is lame. They're just doing it for "teh next gen graphics".
batfan08
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You nailed it with that last sentence, DiFabio. "Teh next gen graphics." Then again, from a technical perspective, it does make sense. You talked about how there was nothing wrong with the Asylum and City suits, but put yourself in the mind of Batman. They look cool, but, realistically? Those things were like paper. Dude probably was like "**** it, I'm tired of getting shredded up every night." This suit, from a technical perspective, is perfect for Batman's needs. The armor offers more protection, and the mechanisms allow the added protection without the trade-off of obstructed movement.
So, I can't really say it's a bad suit. There is a bit of "check out what we can do on these next-gen engines" to it, but, at least, within the context of the games, it holds up.
So, I can't really say it's a bad suit. There is a bit of "check out what we can do on these next-gen engines" to it, but, at least, within the context of the games, it holds up.
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Right from the start I thought the dark knight costume was too visually busy. It has since grown on me but I think it would look much better if they toned down the complexity in the design.
I really don't like the arkham knight costume either. Once again way too visually busy (more so in the AK version). As you pointed out these games have always used a minimalist approach to their batman designs, and It freakin worked. It is dissappointing they didn't stick to that trend, one look at the arkham knight costume and I actually suprised they didn't put a spoiler on his back.
kind of unnecessary escalation there. Your both debating your OPINION so their is no right or wrong.
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I don't mind new designs for Batman. He's more like a pop-culture icon where various interpretations are fine, but I can see DiFabio's points in terms of how they're trying to justify the complicated designs when they could have just said "it looks cool in our eyes".
I actually like the Origins suit the best and I think it really works as a "tactical" Batman. It's a lot simpler than the TDK design, while still maintaining that black/grey aesthetic without looking dumb from a design standpoint. I don't mind them going a little New 52 with this design, and while from an aesthetic standpoint this looks fine on the concept art, in terms of the CG animation I do feel like the moving plates come across more as a distraction.
Still I'm not too fussed over it since I'm more so keen for the gameplay itself. If this is just a special case where Batman needs to amp up his tech for the current scenario (which is what they're saying in the interviews) then I could care even less about the details. As long as it looks like Batman in silhouette, then it's fine in my eyes.
I actually like the Origins suit the best and I think it really works as a "tactical" Batman. It's a lot simpler than the TDK design, while still maintaining that black/grey aesthetic without looking dumb from a design standpoint. I don't mind them going a little New 52 with this design, and while from an aesthetic standpoint this looks fine on the concept art, in terms of the CG animation I do feel like the moving plates come across more as a distraction.
Still I'm not too fussed over it since I'm more so keen for the gameplay itself. If this is just a special case where Batman needs to amp up his tech for the current scenario (which is what they're saying in the interviews) then I could care even less about the details. As long as it looks like Batman in silhouette, then it's fine in my eyes.
jye4ever
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Considering that we're just staring at his ass from far away for most of the game this new look won't ruin the game, its still Batman.
Brainiac
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Yeah the suit in Arkham got torn to shreds, I just hope in this one, if the armor gets scratched up that you can repair it, or put on the default armor for free roam when the story finishes, I got sick of using Texmod to play with a clean suit in Arkham City, same for Catwoman
but Yes I agree (This suit, from a technical perspective, is perfect for Batman's needs.)
especially when considering what he's up against, the last two games we're set in Prisons, and the inmates weapons we're going to be restricted to bats and pipes(and later guns which the AC armor holds up to only slightly) so with this game being set out in the open he could use a suit that holds up better to firearms
Thorne
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Give it up, Spliff.
Arguing with Gaspar is like playing chess with a pigeon. He knocks over the pieces, poops on the board and still struts around like he won.
Brainiac
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I wonder if we will learn the Identity of 'The Broker' in this game....
GasparZizou
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I have nothing against more protection or an armored Batman, it's a cool idea and it's been done in the past a lot, it's purely a design complaint.
I don't think his suits were that fragile nor that they were shredded with every night's patrols, but AA and AC were major events with crazy **** going on so the battle damage was logical, nor I see how where they unrealistic compared to the AK one, they were fabric, with kevlar or something underneath, pretty simple.
I think I would be fine with the iron man armor, if the cape and under-suit weren't paneled and had different shades like a mother ****er, that alone tells you how it's over designed with no thought of the functionality.
Ha! Curious, I remember using the pigeon chess analogy on you, also curious how you're acting like the pigeon now.
And also curious how I seem to not be the only one with the same opinion about the suit.
Pretty pathetic of you to try to reignite a finished argument, Feathers.
Brainiac
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and also... we have seen gameplay where he suits up and goes into Gotham with the Arkham Knight events already happening, so he could be using one of his regular non-armored suits(AC) and then change into this one when he realizes he needs more protection. Just speculation though, but its all we got
I do hope bats returns to Arkham Asylum sometime in this game, just for a side op or something
sfa
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^ It's already been confirmed he wears the Arkham City suit at the start of this game, then at some point changes into the armoured version. I'm guessing that would be fairly early in the game though since the suit and Batmobile are designed to work together, and they wouldn't delay us using the Batmobile for long I'm sure.
GasparZizou
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I'm interested to see what kind of redesign they'll make to the AC suit.
AO already got rid of the undies.
AO already got rid of the undies.
Brainiac
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I had a thought on who Arkham Knight might be today. Since we're still unclear on the timeline so far, it is possible Arkham Knight could be Harley Quinn's son? We know there was the possibly fake pregnancy test in AC, but I don't think enough time has passed from AC to AK for that to be the case (maybe I'm wrong). But another possibility is the child being Deadshot's and not the Joker. If you've watched Assault on Arkham, you'll understand that theory.
I realize AK being Harely's son is pretty unlikely given that a good 18-20ish years would need to pass for it to be even remotely possible. But it would at least be a logical new character that has been created though events on the story rather than just a new character out of the blue.
I realize AK being Harely's son is pretty unlikely given that a good 18-20ish years would need to pass for it to be even remotely possible. But it would at least be a logical new character that has been created though events on the story rather than just a new character out of the blue.
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Im on par with this comment but then again.., it's plainly up to the individual.
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