Things I Hate

[69slimer]

zero - you are square

 

[a-dev]

So far so good. I hope you won't take offence but I'd like to see a few more people say the same thing, such is the degree of my self doubt

 

[a-dev]

Have I? I can't figure out how.

 

[Lakhota]

If you put the 9.60 in the drawer that transaction ended once you gave him the 91 dollars. He Gives you a 50 and three 20's that's $110, and you gave them a hundred dollar bill plus $10 you gave him the same amount of money back that he gave you. To me it sounds like everything is kosher.

 

[a-dev]

If you put the 9.60 in the drawer that transaction ended once you gave him the 91 dollars. He Gives you a 50 and three 20's that's $110, and you gave them a hundred dollar bill plus $10 you gave him the same amount of money back that he gave you. To me it sounds like everything is kosher.

That's how I see it and the way I described it in my initial post is exactly the chain of events.

I fully believe he was a con man and he was gonna try something. But I thought in the first instance he might try to insinuate I shortchanged him on the cigarette transaction with the ol' up the sleeve trick. I made sure he couldn't do that and that he knew that I knew exactly what I'd given him.

In the second instance I thought he would try to give me less than 110 and still expect me to give him 110, thereby still insinuating that I had left him short....but he didn't. He gave me the full 110. I gave him 110 back. There were no inbetween bits where he'd get me to swap one set of notes, take that off me, hand (some of) it straight back with another bunch of notes etc etc

There was the cigarette transaction then straight to the 110. No other money was exchanged in between.

Am I missing exactly where the con is? Or is this an instance of a con-man backing out (but still wanting his 100note back so he could try the same con in some other shop)

 

[GeneralZodLives]

I moved from Las Vegas DMV (4-6 hours) to Deadwood, South Dakota DMV (4-6 minutes) [emoji12][emoji239][emoji12][emoji239][emoji12][emoji239]

Vegas DMV is the worst I've ever experienced. You have to take the day off work because there is no telling how long it will take. I moved to Oklahoma and went in to get my license renewed the other day and it took 5 minutes.

 

[The Ween]

So far so good. I hope you won't take offence but I'd like to see a few more people say the same thing, such is the degree of my self doubt

You gave him back the change.......you were square......

Then he gives you a $50 and 3 $20 which equal $60 $50 + $60 = $110.

You give him $100 + $10 = $110.

You're square.

 

[The Ween]

That's how I see it and the way I described it in my initial post is exactly the chain of events.

I fully believe he was a con man and he was gonna try something. But I thought in the first instance he might try to insinuate I shortchanged him on the cigarette transaction with the ol' up the sleeve trick. I made sure he couldn't do that and that he knew that I knew exactly what I'd given him.

In the second instance I thought he would try to give me less than 110 and still expect me to give him 110, thereby still insinuating that I had left him short....but he didn't. He gave me the full 110. I gave him 110 back. There were no inbetween bits where he'd get me to swap one set of notes, take that off me, hand (some of) it straight back with another bunch of notes etc etc

There was the cigarette transaction then straight to the 110. No other money was exchanged in between.

Am I missing exactly where the con is? Or is this an instance of a con-man backing out (but still wanting his 100note back so he could try the same con in some other shop)

Could very well be. Why give you a $100 for the cigs when he had a $20?

Maybe he was trying the con then screwed up, or just testing the waters. Keep your eye out for him again.

 

[The Ween]

Vegas DMV is the worst I've ever experienced. You have to take the day off work because there is no telling how long it will take. I moved to Oklahoma and went in to get my license renewed the other day and it took 5 minutes.

Same with mine. I maybe been in there 10 minutes tops! Eye test and all.

 

[a-dev]

Could very well be. Why give you a $100 for the cigs when he had a $20?

Maybe he was trying the con then screwed up, or just testing the waters. Keep your eye out for him again.

'Testing the waters', exactly the words my brother used. I've spoken to a few people now and they say, if it happened the way I describe it, I wasn't conned. My guess is that any trick he was gonna pull was entirely reliant on me not being sure if I'd given him the correct change for the cigarettes. When he noticed how deliberate I was about making sure the right change was there he maybe decided to back out.

Relieved. Its a horrible feeling being caught by these A-holes. This is the second time in a month or so that someone's tried this one on me. To have avoided it the first time only to fall for it the second time would have infuriated me.

 

[Lejuan]

A-dev you bugger, do you know how many times I tried to make 110 not equal 110 after reading your initial post at the end of an all-nighter watching the football?

It sucks having to forever be alert to scammers. I used to count back big amounts out loud so customers knew exactly where I'd started and exactly where it ended up. And because I'm not very good at maths.

 

[a-dev]

A-dev you bugger, do you know how many times I tried to make 110 not equal 110 after reading your initial post at the end of an all-nighter watching the football?

It sucks having to forever be alert to scammers. I used to count back big amounts out loud so customers knew exactly where I'd started and exactly where it ended up. And because I'm not very good at maths.

This is the power these pricks have, to make you have doubt in an otherwise simple situation. For hours later I couldn't help thinking 'he must have done something there, I'm eventually gonna realise it and feel like a complete ****ing idiot'.

 

[Lakhota]

I am still shocked that ****ing smokes cost 9.50 a pack thats a ridiculous expensive habit for people. I would just smoke crack probably cheaper.

 

[a-dev]

I am still shocked that ****ing smokes cost 9.50 a pack thats a ridiculous expensive habit for people. I would just smoke crack probably cheaper.

And that's Euros. Damn glad I never picked up a cigarette. At least the figures are something tangible and permanent that I can even resell.

 

[Lakhota]

I think the Euro is almost double USD, which makes figures 1/2 price for you guys....... no fair

 

[Lejuan]

This is the power these pricks have, to make you have doubt in an otherwise simple situation. For hours later I couldn't help thinking 'he must have done something there, I'm eventually gonna realise it and feel like a complete ****ing idiot'.

Scammers love the game too. I met a couple when hanging out with some street dwellers back in the day. One of them was the very same guy that the day before I'd given five bucks to to service his bulls **t story. He was a nice enough guy. They gotta make a living, but sheesh... it pisses me off on so many levels.

 

[Frank]

I don't ****ing believe this. On a day that I wouldn't ordinarily be working I think I have fallen prey to the exact same con (the quick change) that I foiled a few weeks ago - I beat it a few weeks ago because I knew it was a con in progress and called for help, not really letting it getting anywhere. This time I was pretty sure it was the same con again but I thought I was on top of it, I thought I understood it and would know exactly where he was trying to **** me. I may have been wrong about that.

Here it goes.

Customer is buying a packet of cigarettes that cost 9.60.
He gives me a 100 note plus 60cents.
This gives him 91.00 change which I know I give him correctly and I'm quite sure he would have known that I was sure of the change I gave him.
There were no interruptions during this transaction. Done.

Then predictably the other notes start coming out of the pocket.
He gives me a 50 and three 20s to get 110 back (including his original 100 note)

^this was, as far as I was concerned, a new transaction in which any customer might come in with a bunch of different notes asking to consolidate them into fewer larger notes. He gave me 110 (genuine notes) - I gave him 110. Seems straightforward. And yet as soon as he left I got that sinking feeling.

How much have I been screwed out of here? Maybe its the stress but I can't figure it out.

The thing I'd be concerned about is whether the money he gave you was counterfeit or not. He insisted on getting big change from you twice, which is a red flag where I come from.

 

[a-dev]

That's a red flag anywhere. Yeah all the notes were genuine. That was another angle I was wary of but which he evidently wasn't going for.

After this though, twice in succession that I've received a 100 note from a customer where they started pulling this crap, I'm just gonna outright decline them in future. Or if they get stroppy about it I'll tell them in advance that if I take that note off them the transaction is over and is final, I'm not swapping notes back in the event that they 'remember' they had smaller notes.

 

[ExMem-LarjaThwei]

Having a broken air conditioner in 100+ degree weather.

 

[The Ween]

Having a broken air conditioner in 100+ degree weather.

​I just went through that a few weeks ago. One of the few times I didn't want to go home from work. My central air went out. I'm still waiting for the bill.