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DOFP or TWS

  • X-Men: Days of Future Past

    Votes: 37 37.8%
  • Captain America: The Winter Soldier

    Votes: 61 62.2%

  • Total voters
    98
I'm conflicted on that, because I would also love to see the X-Men deal with a purely non-Magneto threat in Apocalypse/Sinister or whatever it is, but on the other hand, Fass is so damn good that I want to see him as much as possible, and I don't think they'll keep him out because they recognize audiences feel that way. And if he's in the movie at all, he can't be a complete ally, so the least you'll probably get is what happened in X2, where he still becomes a major villain and threat of sorts at the end.
 
I saw DOFP tonight, and after this, my vote goes to DOFP. Pretty sure this is my favorite X-movie now, and X2 was previously at the very top of my list of comic movies. I think Winter Soldier did what it set out to do very well, but they were very different kinds of movies, of course, and so it comes down to personal taste. And X-Men appeals to me as a more conventional comic story, also a much grander one, one that fixes a lot of the junk in the franchise that needed fixing and sets the franchise on a potentially very positive course, and does it while referencing a story from Claremont and Byrne, who were responsible for my favorite comic run in existence. Also, the onslaught of great acting in this movie--Fassbender, Jackman, McAvoy, Dinklage, even Jennifer Lawrence here. Cap had decent dramatic performances, but nothing like X-Men IMO. Not that that was ever a real strength or focus of Marvel Studios anyway.

Pretty much sums up why I prefer it over Cap. I thought Cap was good, but only for a Marvel film. I still rank Iron Man 1 higher, but it did restore the interest I once had in Marvel's shared universe.

-DOFP isn't just a great superhero flick, but a great time travel movie as well.

-The action services the plot, I never felt Singer just threw in any action for the heck of it.

- The performances rank right up there with the Nolan trilogy as the best I've seen in a superhero movie.

- Took the best things from Singer's X-Men, and Vaughn's X-Men to make a fun, stylish, character driven film.

- Kinda reboots the series leaving Singer to do pretty much anything he wants, while keeping the incredible cast from both timelines.

- Quicksilver was perfect. Can't wait to see him return in Apocalypse.

Unlike The Avengers, I was at the edge of my seat the whole time because the X-Men actually had a formidable foe, the stakes were high. I will say this though, if it weren't for The Avengers, DOFP probably would have never been made.

Singer is probably the most talented director working on a comic book property right now, like Professor X, hope has been restored back into the series. 2016 is going to be long wait with Apocalypse and BvS releasing.



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I also really found myself enjoying Quicksilver. I thought it might be kind of cheesy, but it worked really well. Another thing that worked well was the tension. In comic movies, you know at the end that the good guys will win, so it's not always easy to effectively build tension, but it worked here IMO, with the switch back and forth with the 70s and future Sentinels at the climax. And on both of those fronts, you have to credit the director and editor (and I'm sure Singer played a significant role editing). Is he the best director doing comic films now? Maybe. Nolan was a better filmmaker IMO, but of course he's out. I think the Russos have potential, but you can't go on much with a sample size of one. I think Whedon is overrated, and Snyder is extremely limited. So maybe he is just because I don't know if any really great directors are doing comic stuff right now.

I was making my case for X-Men before, but that doesn't detract from how good Winter Soldier was to me. It had a goal of creating an effective, suspenseful political story with great action and spectacle, and it succeeded on those levels. I totally can get why someone would prefer this to X-Men, as I think it does some things much better than X-Men does, notably the action (the opening scene, the scene with Fury's SUV, the elevator scene, the scene on the bridge, the fight at the end. . .), which makes sense when the great action really does seem to be one of the priority goals of the film. But my personal preference is for the kind of movie Singer put together. Costumes didn't even bother me while I was actually watching it. Nor did other quibbles about whether the story was derivative in some ways. Because right from the beginning, the movie sucked me in and kept me there.
 
I also really found myself enjoying Quicksilver. I thought it might be kind of cheesy, but it worked really well. Another thing that worked well was the tension. In comic movies, you know at the end that the good guys will win, so it's not always easy to effectively build tension, but it worked here IMO, with the switch back and forth with the 70s and future Sentinels at the climax. And on both of those fronts, you have to credit the director and editor (and I'm sure Singer played a significant role editing). Is he the best director doing comic films now? Maybe. Nolan was a better filmmaker IMO, but of course he's out. I think the Russos have potential, but you can't go on much with a sample size of one. I think Whedon is overrated, and Snyder is extremely limited. So maybe he is just because I don't know if any really great directors are doing comic stuff right now.

I was making my case for X-Men before, but that doesn't detract from how good Winter Soldier was to me. It had a goal of creating an effective, suspenseful political story with great action and spectacle, and it succeeded on those levels. I totally can get why someone would prefer this to X-Men, as I think it does some things much better than X-Men does, notably the action (the opening scene, the scene with Fury's SUV, the elevator scene, the scene on the bridge, the fight at the end. . .), which makes sense when the great action really does seem to be one of the priority goals of the film. But my personal preference is for the kind of movie Singer put together. Costumes didn't even bother me while I was actually watching it. Nor did other quibbles about whether the story was derivative in some ways. Because right from the beginning, the movie sucked me in and kept me there.

I agree with everything you said again.

By the way, I loved the little interaction we got from Quicksilver and Magneto. One of my favorite lines in the movie was when Quicksilver asked Magneto if he knew karate, and Mag's response, " no, but I do know crazy". My theater cheered at that scene.


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I also really found myself enjoying Quicksilver. I thought it might be kind of cheesy, but it worked really well. Another thing that worked well was the tension. In comic movies, you know at the end that the good guys will win, so it's not always easy to effectively build tension, but it worked here IMO, with the switch back and forth with the 70s and future Sentinels at the climax. And on both of those fronts, you have to credit the director and editor (and I'm sure Singer played a significant role editing). Is he the best director doing comic films now? Maybe. Nolan was a better filmmaker IMO, but of course he's out. I think the Russos have potential, but you can't go on much with a sample size of one. I think Whedon is overrated, and Snyder is extremely limited. So maybe he is just because I don't know if any really great directors are doing comic stuff right now.

I was making my case for X-Men before, but that doesn't detract from how good Winter Soldier was to me. It had a goal of creating an effective, suspenseful political story with great action and spectacle, and it succeeded on those levels. I totally can get why someone would prefer this to X-Men, as I think it does some things much better than X-Men does, notably the action (the opening scene, the scene with Fury's SUV, the elevator scene, the scene on the bridge, the fight at the end. . .), which makes sense when the great action really does seem to be one of the priority goals of the film. But my personal preference is for the kind of movie Singer put together. Costumes didn't even bother me while I was actually watching it. Nor did other quibbles about whether the story was derivative in some ways. Because right from the beginning, the movie sucked me in and kept me there.

Khev pointed out many things that were handled better in TWS than in DofP and for the most I agree with his points, but again, the acting overshadows everything else in DofP. Costumes? Were they even wearing them? Not once did a single thought about what they were wearing cross my mind, the characters and their interaction was too compelling. Just floors me the more I think about it. Quibbling timeline details? Could care less, he balanced everytjing while doing a timeline movie and it actually made sense. :lol
Tomorrow we go for our second viewing, really excited to see if some of the scenes still have the same impact.
 
I think what helps with TWS is the connected universe while with DOFP, we've been with these characters for over a decade now so we have this huge long attachment to them. DOFP was a good movie but wasn't exactly a great comic book film, like the rest of Singer's X films, but this is by far the most comic book feeling film they've done so far and I hope they keep going with that especially since Apocalypse is coming up. That said, I do think TWS has set the bar for comic book films. Hope this made sense.
 
The action imo was probably THE most comic booky action seen in a movie. The use of Blinks portals was excellent for team-oriented action scenes, There was Teleportation, Lasers, Brute Force, Ice-Sliding and Freezing, Flying, Fire Powers, Telepathy, Magnetism, Shapeshifting, Lightning and Weather control and Super-Speed

Pretty much sums up why I prefer it over Cap. I thought Cap was good, but only for a Marvel film. I still rank Iron Man 1 higher, but it did restore the interest I once had in Marvel's shared universe.

-DOFP isn't just a great superhero flick, but a great time travel movie as well.

-The action services the plot, I never felt Singer just threw in any action for the heck of it.

- The performances rank right up there with the Nolan trilogy as the best I've seen in a superhero movie.

- Took the best things from Singer's X-Men, and Vaughn's X-Men to make a fun, stylish, character driven film.

- Kinda reboots the series leaving Singer to do pretty much anything he wants, while keeping the incredible cast from both timelines.

- Quicksilver was perfect. Can't wait to see him return in Apocalypse.

Unlike The Avengers, I was at the edge of my seat the whole time because the X-Men actually had a formidable foe, the stakes were high. I will say this though, if it weren't for The Avengers, DOFP probably would have never been made.

Singer is probably the most talented director working on a comic book property right now, like Professor X, hope has been restored back into the series. 2016 is going to be long wait with Apocalypse and BvS releasing.

:goodpost:

I loved how they essentially allowed for a Reboot without doing a full reboot.

Especially agreed with parts in Bold
 
I voted X-Men DOFP. I loved all 3 of the Marvel movies that came out of course Spider-Man is not in the poll since it isn't the highest of Cap or X-men but for me it's hard to choose. I voted X-men because I'm a bigger fan of that series. I love Cap 2. Both are very well done films but Cap in my mind comes is Number 3. X-Men will always be Number 1 and right at second is Spider-Man. So far both are very well done movies. I know X-men did not have the action like Cap but I enjoyed how the story was done. Cap 2 will win in the action but for story X-Men gets it. Very hard to choose indeed as I hate to choose which is better but I say all around I'm happy with what I've seen so far.
 
Hands down TWS for me.
TWS exceeded every expectation, from plot, acting, pacing, surprise etc.
I found DoFP to be a little pandering and contrived in order to correct everything but 1st class.
 
DOFP was a good movie but wasn't exactly a great comic book film, like the rest of Singer's X films
I actually think X2 and DOFP are easily two of the best "comic book films" yet. But then, they are X-Men comic book films, and those comics were always a bit different than, say, Spider-Man, or Avengers, or Superman, if that's what you are more familiar with.
 
I love it. There are so many more Wolverine/X-Men fans than Cap fans. But not even Singer himself and a 200 million dollar budget could match the awesome of TWS.
 
There are so many more Wolverine/X-Men fans than Cap fans.
What makes you think that? I think the stronger truth is--there are many more Marvel Studios (i.e., "Iron Man and Friends") fans than fans of the other comic movie studios, and that strongly affects allegiances and preferences as well.
 
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