Hot Toys TTM 20-22 TrueType Basic Series discussion & what to use them for?.

[Username]

Re: Hot Toys TTM 20-22 TrueType Basic Series

The way i look at is this:
If you want a HT body, you will simply have to pay whatever HT feels is the market worth.
In a world where the cost of components for an iPhone is £10 and it retails for £700, the cost of a HT body must be less than £1 worth of plastic, but it retails for £40.
Not as big a rip off as Apple is guilty of.
But commerce is all about charging what the market will tolerate.
And i for one reckon £40 for the Arnie body isn't too bad.
I'm going to see if one of my regular Ebay sellers will sell me a case of them at HK prices...

 

[andrewm]

Re: Hot Toys TTM 20-22 TrueType Basic Series

is this the bruce lee body that is also coming out in this line?

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Hot-Toys-T...0323?pt=US_Action_Figures&hash=item3a7c83b833

 

[Username]

Re: Hot Toys TTM 20-22 TrueType Basic Series

is this the bruce lee body that is also coming out in this line?

https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_sacat=0&_from=R40&_nkw=hot+toys+true+type&_pgn=2&_skc=50&rt=nc

You never linked us to a body. Only to a page of search results.

 

[andrewm]

Re: Hot Toys TTM 20-22 TrueType Basic Series

fixed the link!

 

[Username]

Re: Hot Toys TTM 20-22 TrueType Basic Series

fixed the link!

That's not going to be in the new releases.

 

[EVILFACE]

Re: Hot Toys TTM 20-22 TrueType Basic Series

is this the bruce lee body that is also coming out in this line?

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Hot-Toys-T...0323?pt=US_Action_Figures&hash=item3a7c83b833

$160 for a body that you can get with a complete Bruce Lee figure for under $100.

 

[a-dev]

Re: Hot Toys TTM 20-22 TrueType Basic Series

[ame]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kJXR280wbEg[/ame]

 

[andrewm]

Re: Hot Toys TTM 20-22 TrueType Basic Series

$160 for a body that you can get with a complete Bruce Lee figure for under $100.

im sure thats just someone trying to get the jump on dumb people.

 

[COSMOSTARX]

Re: Hot Toys TTM 20-22 TrueType Basic Series

Well if you got the extra change... but if you ask me this is asking for way too much.

No head, blank body, up the price. lols

Wait for the knock offs on eBay for $25. They are finely recasted.

Even if people are willing and desperate enough to pay extra for parted out sets it's still too damn high for the average collector IMO.

 

[Buttmunch]

Re: Hot Toys TTM 20-22 TrueType Basic Series

I think its so hypocritical for people here to be fine with the knock off/recasted Hot Toys items, but if one lowly customizer gets their head recasted, everyone loses their minds!

All or nothing guys, can't pick and choose which recasting to support. Just because HT is charging so much for a body doesn't make it right to buy the recasted knock offs off them.

 

[Username]

Re: Hot Toys TTM 20-22 TrueType Basic Series

They are not "recasted"(There's no such word). That would imply whomever makes them precisely copied the HT pieces by making moulds of them. And you can't do that with plastic pieces.
The knock-off term does apply. A rough copy, sharing many attributes.
It's not the same as a recast though.

 

[COSMOSTARX]

Re: Hot Toys TTM 20-22 TrueType Basic Series

It's certainly a touchy subject. But since they have a strong hold on the 1/6 collecting they do whatever they want because they almost have a monopoly.

I will rather pay much less for the same knock offs especially since the bodies are usually never visible to the eye.

 

[Gruff Old Bear]

Re: Hot Toys TTM 20-22 TrueType Basic Series

These are up at Sideshow and available for pre-order.

 

[karamazov80]

Re: Hot Toys TTM 20-22 TrueType Basic Series

I think its so hypocritical for people here to be fine with the knock off/recasted Hot Toys items, but if one lowly customizer gets their head recasted, everyone loses their minds!

All or nothing guys, can't pick and choose which recasting to support. Just because HT is charging so much for a body doesn't make it right to buy the recasted knock offs off them.

Lots of shades of gray here. As I recall, you support unlicensed head sculpts and partial recasts on the order of the DX-12 mouthpiece. Of course, you can hold whatever opinion you choose, but I'm not sure many here should take this type of condescending, judgmental opinion on things like this.

 

[Buttmunch]

Re: Hot Toys TTM 20-22 TrueType Basic Series

A recast is a direct copy. If its been modified at all, like taking an entire head and making a mouth piece from it, its not even in the realm of being a recast. I'm baffled people still don't get that.

I guess I'm not 100% up to date on the knock off bodies then. If they are not molded from the HT pieces, then they aren't knock offs at all but a separate company's body. They may have used the TT in every way for their designs, but if they didn't cast the HT pieces, there is no issue there and they aren't even knock offs. The term knock off implies they are passing them off as actual TT or being recast from a TT body.

 

[karamazov80]

Re: Hot Toys TTM 20-22 TrueType Basic Series

Someone may perceive that as a self-serving distinction, considering that whether you recast a full head, a full figure, an arm, a mouth, or a foot, you are engaging in the same generic process of taking something that already existed and creating new copies of it. The question isn't definitional, it is of appropriateness of one form of recasting vs. another. I think doing partial recasts is more acceptable than full recasts, and Dave seems to share that opinion, but a reasonable person can disagree, which is my point.

 

[Monger]

Re: Hot Toys TTM 20-22 TrueType Basic Series

I honestly don't care about recasts. Customs are illegal in the sense that they are making figures and selling them without actually getting the rights to those IPs so I find it funny when people go crazy when recasts of stuff like Rainman products go up. If a criminal commits a crime to another criminal, I say punish them both.

 

[shells075]

Re: Hot Toys TTM 20-22 TrueType Basic Series

I will pick up a loose DX 13 body. as I plan on having 2 figures. Will be interesting to see how the battle damaged body has been engineered.

 

[TheFiend]

Re: Hot Toys TTM 20-22 TrueType Basic Series

Slim and Regular are $49.99 plus shipping.

https://www.sideshowtoy.com/?page_id=4489&sku=901997&utm_source=PreOrderRss#HotToysItem#HotToysItem
https://www.sideshowtoy.com/?page_id=4489&sku=901996&utm_source=PreOrderRss#HotToysItem

You're right, I do just want to complain. Who am I kidding, if I ran a business and could sell at top dollar... I would. Just honestly was hoping for these to come in at a bit lower of a price.

It's what I was expecting but still too expensive. (sigh) Although, I'd shop around a bit before I bought from SS. Might be able to be found cheaper.

 

[Username]

Re: Hot Toys TTM 20-22 TrueType Basic Series

I've contacted an eBay seller I deal with for HT figures who is in HK.
They have said HT hasn't got a firm release date but that once they are released, they will be able to take orders and their price will likely be very keen.
I can report back once they are released.