Hot Toys Metal Gear Solid 3 Snake Eater - Naked Snake (Sneaking Suit Version)

[Monger]

but why would they ave a zipper that doesnt work solidus? i totally believe it zips up but they keep wantin to show that crappy scar as if anyone cares.

The same reason they come with guns that don't fire 1/6 bullets The idea is to look like her coat has a zipper. They are basing it off the 3DS art, which of course just features her with the suit zipped down. So in that sense they could just have the zipper not function, just like how it would on a sculpted statue. It's stupid yes, but not impossible by any means.

 

[WellCQCaboutthat]

The same reason they come with guns that don't fire 1/6 bullets The idea is to look like her coat has a zipper. They are basing it off the 3DS art, which of course just features her with the suit zipped down. So in that sense they could just have the zipper not function, just like how it would on a sculpted statue. It's stupid yes, but not impossible by any means.

thats cool and shnarf, but i still think it zips due to the fact that the suit looks like it has give. maybe when it zips shes in raiden mode and when its not shes more posable. i definitely think that the poses will be pretty lame with these. i do love them. buts thats just it. and monger, why are you so positive that these will not sell well and be sitting on shelves? i always wanted to ask you that but never did. what is your basis. you could be totally spot on but im not so sure about that.

 

[ZombieRepublican]

The thighs and hips are too slender, the chest has a weird uni-boob thing going on, the height is too small (when The Boss is about the same height as Snake), the shoes have the wrong color, the jacket might not be able to zip up (as we've seen it zipped down in every photo).

All of this, excluding the man face. So no, The Boss isn't accurate at all . But, what's inaccurate about the Naked Snake figure, btw? Aside from the Peace Walker face, I can't see anything wrong about it .

Im o.k with the uni-boob, but im not buying the figure i guess. Its just black laces, i think it looks better that way. Im sure that jacket can zip up. Is she really the same height as Snake though?

On BigBoss, HT recreated the 3DS render perfectly but not the in-game version which is where my issue lies. The ribbed parts look bad to me, and i don't like that the torso id made of a harder material.

 

[DarkHumor]

i cant wait for the combat poses im gonna put them in.

bahahahaha!!

 

[Monger]

thats cool and shnarf, but i still think it zips due to the fact that the suit looks like it has give. maybe when it zips shes in raiden mode and when its not shes more posable. i definitely think that the poses will be pretty lame with these. i do love them. buts thats just it. and monger, why are you so positive that these will not sell well and be sitting on shelves? i always wanted to ask you that but never did. what is your basis. you could be totally spot on but im not so sure about that.

The suit looks to be somewhat flexible, but her chest seems too big to zip up over. Once people start getting the figures in Hong Kong we will know for sure. I imagine it does indeed zip up for a fairly snug fit, which is accurate to the suit though I worry it could lead to quality control issues or something.

Did I say I thought these would shelf warm? I probably did. If so I imagine my thinking at the time was that they grabbed a hot license and then sat on it forever so people lost interest. Finally, they do release shots of the figures and it turns out they picked the absolute least iconic appearance of Naked Snake and they made The Boss well...very poorly. At the same time they charge absolute premium prices for the two figures and yet many people in the back of their heads are going to want to wait and see how the figures will do in case they have issues or in the case that Hot Toys makes other versions. I am fairly certain most people would prefer one of Naked Snake's other outfits and appearances as well as The Boss' initial appearance.

So you basically have many people, even hardcore fans, not buying the figures. Their reasoning really doesn't matter because it translates to the figures not selling and in the case of Hot Toys figures that seems to cause a significant drop in prices on the aftermarket.

Truth be told I have no idea how these might turn out. They could end up great and sellout everywhere. Who knows. I am fairly confident The Boss won't sell well though.

I am by no means absolutely positive in those assumptions though. I talk big a lot so I can see how it may have came across that way.

 

[GrandPatron]

The thighs and hips are too slender, the chest has a weird uni-boob thing going on, the height is too small (when The Boss is about the same height as Snake), the shoes have the wrong color, the jacket might not be able to zip up (as we've seen it zipped down in every photo).

All of this, excluding the man face. So no, The Boss isn't accurate at all . But, what's inaccurate about the Naked Snake figure, btw? Aside from the Peace Walker face, I can't see anything wrong about it .

Big Boss is about 6'3 and The Boss is 5'10 I think the height is about right, plus her being the same height as Snake would just make her look even more manly which is a big no no.

I am also 99% sure that The Boss's jacket zips up

You can see the zipper right here and it even has those zipper things so it definitely zips up.

Im o.k with the uni-boob, but im not buying the figure i guess. Its just black laces, i think it looks better that way. Im sure that jacket can zip up. Is she really the same height as Snake though?

On BigBoss, HT recreated the 3DS render perfectly but not the in-game version which is where my issue lies. The ribbed parts look bad to me, and i don't like that the torso id made of a harder material.

Yeah I gotta agree with that, the in game version looks better but I guess they took a more realistic approach sadly.

This is what I was hoping Snake would look like but I don't really mind I like what HT has done with the sculpt.

 

[Monger]

Even if it does have the zipper things and such it doesn't actually mean it zips up, but I do think it does and surprisingly her chest doesn't look too large in that picture so it seems like it wouldn't be as stressful on the suit to have it fully zipped.

The point still stands that The Boss is by no means short. Until we see her next to other figures we can't say for sure, but she seems to be too short in general. They are both tall people.

And correct me if I am wrong, but didn't they retcon and change the height of Naked Snake in pretty much every appearance he made? I took a quick look at the wiki and it says he is 180 cm in 1999, making him two cm taller than The Boss.

 

[Uncanny Web-Slinger]

It does zip up, there was a pic shortly after P.O with the shinkawa and the figures, her suit was zipped up after far as her bewbs and one of the straps buckled.

EDIT: voilá

Although not entirely level she looks shorter than Snake here

So the zip is functional, what remains to be ssen is if it can withhold her bust.

It irks me to no end that we have guess, HT have had so many different opportunites in the officials pics, toyhunters and toyshows to show if it zips all the way up or not but they didn't.

The uni-bewbs is the most bad part about the figure, i can enjoy the figure as a whole IF i can cover those up, so i'm waiting to see if that's possible.

 

[Monger]

Another oddity is that we still haven't seen the clock on her either

 

[Uncanny Web-Slinger]

Another oddity is that we still haven't seen the clock on her either

I don't get what you mean?

 

[WellCQCaboutthat]

me either please elaborate?! oh never mind, he means cloak! yes i want to display her with it. good call!

 

[Uncanny Web-Slinger]

me either please elaborate oh never mind he means cloak! yes i want to display her with it. good call!

Got it

I think there was a teeny tiny pic just before P.O went up, it was like a magazine scan or something, but i don't see why none of the official pics show the cloak on her or the suit zipped up, they did after all take a ton

 

[Monger]

Oh wow I can't believe I said clock LOL

 

[Uncanny Web-Slinger]

Oh wow I can't believe I said clock LOL

If i type when i'm tired i mess up loads, forget spaces mispell words even type things like 'is' instead of 'of'

So if this release in JPN in November then SSC release date looks accurate

 

[Jameson Rook]

Anybody knows what HT uses as the reference for their sculpts? Photos? I'd always assumed it would be easier since they could just acquire 3D scans of the characters. I'm a bit disappointed that Snake is based on his 3DS render rather than his iconic PS2 look.

This begs the question if they ever do MGS2, will they make Snake look like Peace Walker Big Boss? I shudder to think.

 

[Mazukou]

Anybody knows what HT uses as the reference for their sculpts? Photos? I'd always assumed it would be easier since they could just acquire 3D scans of the characters. I'm a bit disappointed that Snake is based on his 3DS render rather than his iconic PS2 look.

This begs the question if they ever do MGS2, will they make Snake look like Peace Walker Big Boss? I shudder to think.

I hope not cause solid snakes way less bearded than BB

 

[Monger]

Anybody knows what HT uses as the reference for their sculpts? Photos? I'd always assumed it would be easier since they could just acquire 3D scans of the characters. I'm a bit disappointed that Snake is based on his 3DS render rather than his iconic PS2 look.

This begs the question if they ever do MGS2, will they make Snake look like Peace Walker Big Boss? I shudder to think.

It actually makes sense to me that they would go for the newest version of MGS3. If Ada had looked different in the HD Resident Evil 4 then that would have been reflected in the figure too. In the case of MGS2 Solid Snake, he was never redesigned so it should just look like a slightly more realistic version of his character model.

 

[ZombieRepublican]

Yeah I gotta agree with that, the in game version looks better but I guess they took a more realistic approach sadly.

This is what I was hoping Snake would look like but I don't really mind I like what HT has done with the sculpt.

Well it looks like a blend to me. He has the same head shape as in MGS3 but more detail. Im actually glad they didn't follow the renders for the face. I think the renders are gawd awful!

I was talking specifically about the suit. Although it would have been awesome if they did use the in-game face model aswell

 

[Monger]

I hope they make Raiden exactly how he looks on that HD collection picture though. He looks really awesome and I love the facial expression there. Yeah Cyborg Ninja Raiden is crazy and has all the bells and whistles, but personally I really like his basic MGS2 design too. His suit is very interesting looking. I love how it has the skeleton/humanoid aspects to it. Seeing a figure of it would be awesome but unfortunately its the kind of outfit that would look best as rubber and well...yeah...

 

[ZombieRepublican]

I hope they make Raiden exactly how he looks on that HD collection picture though. He looks really awesome and I love the facial expression there. Yeah Cyborg Ninja Raiden is crazy and has all the bells and whistles, but personally I really like his basic MGS2 design too. His suit is very interesting looking. I love how it has the skeleton/humanoid aspects to it. Seeing a figure of it would be awesome but unfortunately its the kind of outfit that would look best as rubber and well...yeah...

Its a very bad ass design. It looks damn good in the game. Hot Toys loves a challenge so looks like we'll have to see. Maybe they could make it rubber and certain parts be made of fabric for articulation?

The raiden renders isn't bad but i much prefer his MGS2 model. He looks good in Rising but only with his helmet thingy