DX09 KEATON BATMAN: residue in abdominal area, has yours shown signs of it?

[T-?]

Wow, after aaaaaaaaall this wait, the anticipation and then the extra waiting and now I contemplate cancelling my order with Toys2. Typical.

 

[Rorywan]

If you look at Rory's picture, there are vertical oil lines as well, in 2 spots, which are in line with the glue from tape theory. It's possible, his had pooled up glue residue that was smudged to the right when he may have twisted the belt, or during shipping as in the case of the second one. The only thing this wouldn't explain is it returning without the belt on. That remains a mystery.

Listen guys say what you want about your own figures. But let me tell you mine has oil. I sincerely hope the rest of you don't get the same problem. This oil, wiped off onto my finger like olive oil. It pooled. This is not new, it's exactly the ____ing same as my DX02 and melting Comedian. It's not good news for sure, but sorry that's the reality of it.
It is not sticky tape residue. It came back without the belt.

This is all the same pointless posting that started the DX02 disaster.
No interest in debating it with anyone, wasted enough of my time on that in the DX02 and Comedian threads. This is a fact: My 2 DX09 Batmen figures show sign of oils leakage. In fact if you go back to my original post when I opened my first Bats, you will see that I mentioned it had a slight oily residue under the cowl, out of the box. Others have noted this as well.

Now, I have no reason to lie about this, neither am I stupid. So that that as you will. Lets hope this thread just dies and this isn't a problem.
I have no interest in debating this with anyone. I wanted to simply present the facts as I see them.

Out of here now, cause I can see the line this thread is taking. Just like the DX02 thread did.

And yes it's still leaking today. After being wiped off for the last two days.

 

[schokolade]

Keep the PVC belf from contact with the PVC "rubber" body... The High plasticizers content of the Suit is the "oil"...

Of the 2 materials in contact the softer material (higher plasticizers) content will degrade

I believe what bandito says is right. It is advised that you try not to throw away the black paper as it acts as a barrier between the PVC belt and PVC suit. The difference in plasticizers are what's making the suit to react chemically.

yes some of you might have glue residue from the magnets stuck on the suit. But in Rory's case its different. Get that black paper folded properly and cover the waist of the suit so that it will help absorb the oil that has already seeped out the suit and it doesn't happen further. I have a small portion of the belt touching a bit part of the suit and I already see a small bead of shiny 'sweat' on it. I know that its not glue residue as I still kept the black paper wrapped around the suit. Only thing is that I folded the paper in half and part of the belt is exposed and touching the body. Its not the glue from the magnet on belt as I've checked it and it is dry and it doesnt 'wiggle' at all.

Maybe this could also work on the DX02? I should try and get some black paper and wrap around his waist as well, who knows.

hope this helps

 

[Rorywan]

Someone should just clean it, leave the belt off for a day or two and then you'll know when it returns or not

I did, it does.

 

[Rorywan]

I see what you're saying with Rory's. I think the buckle is attached to the belt with glue as well. So it may be leaking from that joint/connection.

it's not.

 

[schokolade]

Listen guys say what you want about your own figures. But let me tell you mine has oil. I sincerely hope the rest of you don't get the same problem. This oil, wiped off onto my finger like olive oil. It pooled. This is not new, it's exactly the ____ing same as my DX02 and melting Comedian. It's not good news for sure, but sorry that's the reality of it.
It is not sticky tape residue. It came back without the belt.

This is all the same pointless posting that started the DX02 disaster.
No interest in debating it with anyone, wasted enough of my time on that in the DX02 and Comedian threads. This is a fact: My 2 DX09 Batmen figures show sign of oils leakage. In fact if you go back to my original post when I opened my first Bats, you will see that I mentioned it had a slight oily residue under the cowl, out of the box. Others have noted this as well.

Now, I have no reason to lie about this, neither am I stupid. So that that as you will. Lets hope this thread just dies and this isn't a problem.
I have no interest in debating this with anyone. I wanted to simply present the facts as I see them.

Out of here now, cause I can see the line this thread is taking. Just like the DX02 thread did.

And yes it's still leaking today. After being wiped off for the last two days.

I think you should get some organic black paper and wrap around the insides of the cowl. I think that will separate those two materials from reacting with each other. Good thing the suit is sort of having a textured feel to it. The black paper from the waist seems to blend well with the suit and if you ask me i think it looks ok from afar! If you are not OCD about it i think its a deterrent from making the issue worse. Hope that helps and good luck bro.

 

[Rorywan]

I think you should get some organic black paper and wrap around the insides of the cowl. I think that will separate those two materials from reacting with each other. Good thing the suit is sort of having a textured feel to it. The black paper from the waist seems to blend well with the suit and if you ask me i think it looks ok from afar! If you are not OCD about it i think its a deterrent from making the issue worse. Hope that helps and good luck bro.

I did that already thanks.

Just to be clear everyone, I have no doubt some of yours may have had some residue from the magnet tape on the inside of the belt.
But 2 things to take into account:
1: The back of my actual belt buckle was shiny wet with oil. Not the area with the magnet.
2: It came back without the belt on.

Now, I will leave it to you guys to debate the how and why, and I sincerely hope it's not a widespread problem. Not being a ____ or anything, but I genuinely don't have the energy for another DX02 thread!

 

[King Darkness]

My Takara Batman is still mint, why can't HT manage the same damn thing.

Blah.....big kahkah.

 

[Cap'n Cook]

Very good point actually.

 

[badrat]

Your sig pic goes well with your comment.

Wow, you're right!

 

[intothevoid]

Very good point actually.

Yes and the Medicom TDK Batman is looking spectacular as ever, and no hint of rubber or oil in sight!

Vinyl is the way to go

 

[Cap'n Cook]

Hopefully HT will go the vinyl route on TDKR batman.

Eager to see HT and Medi offerings of it.

 

[Solidus]

Listen guys say what you want about your own figures. But let me tell you mine has oil. I sincerely hope the rest of you don't get the same problem. This oil, wiped off onto my finger like olive oil. It pooled. This is not new, it's exactly the ____ing same as my DX02 and melting Comedian. It's not good news for sure, but sorry that's the reality of it.
It is not sticky tape residue. It came back without the belt.

This is all the same pointless posting that started the DX02 disaster.
No interest in debating it with anyone, wasted enough of my time on that in the DX02 and Comedian threads. This is a fact: My 2 DX09 Batmen figures show sign of oils leakage. In fact if you go back to my original post when I opened my first Bats, you will see that I mentioned it had a slight oily residue under the cowl, out of the box. Others have noted this as well.

Now, I have no reason to lie about this, neither am I stupid. So that that as you will. Lets hope this thread just dies and this isn't a problem.
I have no interest in debating this with anyone. I wanted to simply present the facts as I see them.

Out of here now, cause I can see the line this thread is taking. Just like the DX02 thread did.

And yes it's still leaking today. After being wiped off for the last two days.

I'm definitely taking what you mentioned seriously, Rory. Since you have experience with the DX02 and Comedian, I would like to know, does touching the rubber with your fingers speed up the deterioration and make it worse? I'm planning to put my Batman figure in a detolf shelf and not touch it.

 

[Rorywan]

I'm definitely taking what you mentioned seriously, Rory. Since you have experience with the DX02 and Comedian, I would like to know, does touching the rubber with your fingers speed up the deterioration and make it worse? I'm planning to put my Batman figure in a detolf shelf and not touch it.

Nah, mate nothing to do with it as far as I know. I don't really handle my figures at all.

 

[UltraMarknus]

Listen guys say what you want about your own figures. But let me tell you mine has oil. I sincerely hope the rest of you don't get the same problem. This oil, wiped off onto my finger like olive oil. It pooled. This is not new, it's exactly the ____ing same as my DX02 and melting Comedian. It's not good news for sure, but sorry that's the reality of it.
It is not sticky tape residue. It came back without the belt.

This is all the same pointless posting that started the DX02 disaster.
No interest in debating it with anyone, wasted enough of my time on that in the DX02 and Comedian threads. This is a fact: My 2 DX09 Batmen figures show sign of oils leakage. In fact if you go back to my original post when I opened my first Bats, you will see that I mentioned it had a slight oily residue under the cowl, out of the box. Others have noted this as well.

Now, I have no reason to lie about this, neither am I stupid. So that that as you will. Lets hope this thread just dies and this isn't a problem.
I have no interest in debating this with anyone. I wanted to simply present the facts as I see them.

Out of here now, cause I can see the line this thread is taking. Just like the DX02 thread did.

And yes it's still leaking today. After being wiped off for the last two days.

I don't think anyone thought you were lying. I left the belt off overnight. I'll check mine shortly. So, it's possible this figure has glue residue AND oil issues lol. That's beyond ____ty. On the bright side, it's in a place that is typically covered.

 

[Solidus]

Nah, mate nothing to do with it as far as I know. I don't really handle my figures at all.

Ah I see, thanks for replying. I'm kinda new to the whole oil thing. I wonder if the rubber will last if I just leave the figure alone and let the oil pool freely in certain areas without cleaning it. If it's just under the belt or under the arms that won't be a problem for me. But if it starts leaking out of those areas and starts to spread on the surface that would suck.

 

[DiFabio]

If it isn't tape or glue, and it's the rubber itself due to the belt one has to wonder why it's only appearing in the front, and not on the sides or the back of the waist/torso. Very strange.

What is it about the lower abs? If it's curing, why don't the legs secrete, or the elbows or the back? It's all one piece of the same rubber suit. Why the waist?

 

[King Darkness]

One has to wonder why it's only appearing in the front, and not on the sides or the back of the waist/torso. Very strange.

Stigmata always appears in correpondings locations.

What Batman's abdominal area corresponds to is anyones guess

 

[joebizz34]

Before I sold my To Fair Bruce Wayne/Batman, I noticed that there were 2 little dents that formed by his crotch area caused by the HT stand. I think long term this could have done more damage to that area. So do you think that the areas effected by the belt is in fact being caused by the constant contact it is having with the belt on that area?

 

[schokolade]

If it isn't tape or glue, and it's the rubber itself due to the belt. One has to wonder why it's only appearing in the front, and not on the sides or the back of the waist/torso. Very strange.

What is it about the lower abs? If it's curing, why don't the legs secrete, or the elbows or the back? It's all one piece of the same rubber suit. Why the waist?

because the waist is the only area which has parts of the belt actually having contact with the suit(that's if we assume the black paper is removed from the body). Its highly possible that the material of the belt have some sort of reaction with the rubber waist of the suit similar to what happened with the DX02. Could be because of the difference of usage of plasticizers used to make the suit and the belt. Or it might be the paint of the belt reacting with the suit?

but all i know about how they make the suit is that they added plasticizers on it to act as spacers between the polymer chain. That's how u get rubber. The more u add plasticizers, the more flexible it becomes. But in time these plasticizers would start to evaporate out of the suit. Which is why you have that 'new car smell' on the body. It is evaporating as we speak. That is why in time you will get rubber that goes dry and cracks. But in DX02's case the process of it deteriorating may have sped up because of the reaction of those different plastics. Same goes for the rubber which is wrapped around your copper wires and also your rubber bands. It could also happen to our 89 bats. But it can be slowed down by simply not removing the black paper. They just dont last forever.

but what about the plastic gauntlets and the boots of batman? maybe they are made from a different sort of polymer which fortunately doesn't react with the arms and legs of the suit.

I'm not really 100% sure about this but I think based on what I see and read about plasticizers on the web it seems to make me agree about the issue that is unravelling here.

edit: and to add to that I think it always happens on the front of the abs because it has the most pressure applied to the body by the belt itself. Pressure = friction = heat = a small bit of chemical reaction between the belt n front surface of suit, no?