Cave Troll PF (Any Interest)?

[angelo07stang]

I could give a rat's ass if it's not the exact same height as the one in the movies but I;m sure there would be those who would complain.

 

[El Skutto]

Well, considering that PFs are all supposed to be 1:4 scale, yeah, I'd be upset if they gave us one that was closer to 1:5, or even 1:6.

 

[Seaward]

In a relatively recent "Ask Sideshow Q&A" though, they even stated that Sauron will be on deck for the Lord of the Rings line, even though he won't be in true 1:4 scale, he will be big.

"Monday, January 10th, 2011
Is there any possibility of a Sauron Premium Format and/or a Saruman? I was unfortunate enough to miss all of your previous Sauron products because I just recently discovered Sideshow.
Yup. Saruman and Sauron have just officially graduated from the candidate list to the confirmed, planned, product line-up for 2012. We’ll be collaborating with Jerry Vanderstelt on Sauron, who may or may not end up “officially” in the PF classification, but will be BIG"

Maybe he won't be an official Premium format or a maquette, but just something enormous that can walk between both lines, and I would be happy if a Cave Troll had a similar feel. Just a huge honking figure. I would love to see a true representation of scale for both lines, but I don't know that I would want a Cave Troll PF and a Cave Troll maquette. I like that (with the human characters thus far at least) the maquette is a different take on the character we have seen as a Premium Format. I don't know that a cave troll would be different enough to offer in both formats, but a large, imposing Cave Troll (And Sauron) in either line would be great with me. I just think that the limited amount of fabric for both Sauron and the Cave Troll would add significantly to the sculpted piece, and from a scale standpoint, my preference leans more towards the PF line.

What do you think works best for some of these oversized characters that may not have as much "Premium Format" potential?

 

[Fritz]

I think it's a case of striking well after the iron was hot. Interest in LOTR died down considerably after Return of the King, so it would be imprudent of Sideshow to release a "risky" piece like a 1:4 Cave Troll when only the diehards remain. Unless they keep the edition size ridiculously low (like, 100 or less) they'll never sell out.

And the cost associated with creating such a limited number of a complex design like the Cave Troll means that those 100 collectors will be absorbing a big chunk of the research and design costs on the piece. What would have been a $1,000 PF suddenly becomes $1,500 to offset those costs.

Acoording to "LOTR: Weapons And Warfare" by Chris Smith, a mountain troll stood between 10 and 15 feet. The sizes that PJ used are usually found in that book. In a comparison drawing I have a pic of, a troll is said to be 8' tall. PJ usually upped the sizes of the monsters though. (Tolkien stated that a Balrog was "twice the height of a man" but PJ's Balrog is more like 20'-25'.)

Based on 10', a 1/4 scale troll would come in at 30" in height (45" if based on 15'!). A 1/6 troll (10') would still be 20" tall!

The Thor 1:1 bust is 28.5" in height and $650.00 with an edition size of 350. So I don't think a Cave Troll of similar proportion would have to be $1000 to $1500. Plus to make it more profitable they could make it an exclusive which would eliminate the wholesale price at which it would be sold to dealers.

 

[LOTRFan]

Any interest in the SSW stachooooooo ....

 

[Crysis]

Just make it a baby cave troll.

 

[FrodoEyes]

Any interest in the SSW stachooooooo ....

Yes

 

[woodsy]

I'd say with the recent resurgence of the LOTR licence thanks to the maquette line a cave troll is a definite possibility, but I think people are dreaming if they think it's going to be a PF. Given the current economic climate SS is going to have a hard enough time selling out the upcoming RWOS PF, despite that characters immense popularity. At best, the cave troll is an inconsequential character and I seriously doubt SS is going to produce a $900 [best case scenario IMO] cave troll statue when they can't even sell out another generic character [Mordor Orc] at 1/3 the price.

 

[Crysis]

I will buy a Cave Troll and skip the Mordor Orc even at 5 times the price. RWOS is a must that one has to be big.

 

[woodsy]

I will buy a Cave Troll and skip the Mordor Orc even at 5 times the price. RWOS is a must that one has to be big.

You might be willing to spend $1500 on a CT PF, but I highly doubt most collectors would be willing to follow suit. Esp. when it would be most likely produced years after a CT maquette and at 3X the cost.

 

[tamato]

Forgive me if this has already been suggested but couldn't the Troll be 1/4 scale but made from the same vynil material that SS made Jabba from? That would eliminate the insane shipping cost that a solid polystone would incur.

 

[Vex]

Bring on a ____ing 1/4 scale Cave Troll, cost don't matter!

 

[Trustey]

So happy with my Cave Troll LSB... so much character, love the teeth, I have all the lsb's and pf's I think are worthwhile, and I put him and GtG pf at the top of each line. Sauron and ML LSB's are good, but theres a couple spots where the metal paint was too obviously applied by sponge.
That being said, a pf would be amazing but it would crush my cabinet and my wallet.

 

[Adolfo]

PF 1/4 scale would be over 4 ft tall...1/6 would still be huge!

 

[woodsy]

After producing the RWOS, Sauron, and Saruman PF's SS has intimated they will be shifting the PF emphasis to good guys. Translation : A CaveTroll PF, if it's ever produced is a minimum of 4-5 years away. At this point a Cave Troll PF is nothing but a pipe dream.

 

[mikkipog]

After producing the RWOS, Sauron, and Saruman PF's SS has intimated they will be shifting the PF emphasis to good guys. Translation : A CaveTroll PF, if it's ever produced is a minimum of 4-5 years away. A this point a Cave Troll PF is nothing but a pipe dream.

oh well, at least we can all have some kind of a breather after purchasing the RWOS and sauron, being able to go back to regular-priced pf pieces. but a cave troll would always be welcome just in case ss decides to produce it.

 

[Vex]

Make a 1/4 scale Cave Troll Sideshow

 

[Centurion]

PF 1/4 scale would be over 4 ft tall...1/6 would still be huge!

That would be big for sure.
Still, if they can do Sauron, this is a possibility too.

 

[woodsy]

That would be big for sure.
Still, if they can do Sauron, this is a possibility too.

Of course it is a possibility. SS themselves have stated this on two separate occasions, but they have never commited to producing one, nor have they ever established a potential timeframe for the production of one. They have, however, given us the PF line-up for the next 1 1/2 years after which time they plan on switching the PF emphasis to good guys....so where does that leave a Cave Troll? Like I said before, a Cave TRoll PF [if SS produces one] is a minimum of 4-5 years away and if SS produces a Cave Troll maquette in the next 4-5 years, which is more than likely...then I think you can kiss goodbye a Cave Troll PF altogether.

 

[cstojano]

Of course it is a possibility. SS themselves have stated this on two separate occasions, but they have never commited to producing one, nor have they ever established a potential timeframe for the production of one. They have, however, given us the PF line-up for the next 1 1/2 years after which time they plan on switching the PF emphasis to good guys....so where does that leave a Cave Troll? Like I said before, a Cave TRoll PF [if SS produces one] is a minimum of 4-5 years away and if SS produces a Cave Troll maquette in the next 4-5 years, which is more than likely...then I think you can kiss goodbye a Cave Troll PF altogether.

Given the lack of soft goods on the cave troll I would only buy the PF if it was the size of a coffee table and had a scratch and sniff feature. Sucker would be heavy.