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LOL...yeah Bill Belichick is a wonderful humanitarian and deserves to be forgiven!

Forgiven for what?:dunno Because a spiteful former assistant blew the whistle on them taping from the sidelines rather than basically anywhere else in a stadium where it somehow becomes legal?

It's still much ado about nothing, and just became a rallying call for jealous fans and players to point a finger at for the Pats' success last decade.
 
Forgiven for what?:dunno Because a spiteful former assistant blew the whistle on them taping from the sidelines rather than basically anywhere else in a stadium where it somehow becomes legal?

It's still much ado about nothing, and just became a rallying call for jealous fans and players to point a finger at for the Pats' success last decade.[/QUOTE]


The whole "it's just jealous fans" rationalization is even more tired than Belicheat getting rousted about getting busted.

I am sure every team looks for holes in the rules to abuse. But if they get busted...they need to STFU and man up on it.
 
Yep the Pats spy-gate scandal was much ado about nothing. What have they done since then? Oh that's right, pretty much nothing! Teams lost the respect, and in turn fear, of playing those cheaters.
 
Did the Pats Defense get any better. They looked bad last year. I wouldn't count them out.

Well when Rodney harrison and Tedy Bruschi retire, and you let Richard Seymour, Asante samuels and Mike Vrabel go, then good won't happened when you let a virtually inexperienced defense take over. That all just goes to show the arrogance of Bill Belichick.
 
Yep the Pats spy-gate scandal was much ado about nothing. What have they done since then? Oh that's right, pretty much nothing! Teams lost the respect, and in turn fear, of playing those cheaters.

Undeafeated regular season, AFC title, 2 AFC East titles, 11-5 without Brady...yeah they've done nothing since then.:ohbfrank:
 
Vikings trade for Dolphins WR Camarillo. This is a good trade for the Vikes. Camarillo is a good receiver.


From what i have been hearing, the Vikes got a good deal for him. I dunno much about him personally. (but i know Sapp was expendable)
 
Undeafeated regular season, AFC title, 2 AFC East titles, 11-5 without Brady...yeah they've done nothing since then.:ohbfrank:

Boy, talk about over-glorifying their short comings. Lost the super Bowl, missed the play-offs, and got completely man-handled in the wild card round sounds more like it.:slap:slap
 
So it's Lombardi or nothing?

What other reason do teams play for? Would Dan Marino give up all of his records for one ring? But maybe that's harsh. A teams' glory can also be measured by post season records. Pats are 2-2 since spy-gate. NOT good. But they were Division Champs those years, even though they lost to Wild Card teams both times. And about their 2 division titles since then, when they play the Bills twice a year and Jets twice a year, that helps.
 
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